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MANFlyer 21st Jun 2007 16:10

I seriously doubt there was 'vein of truth' in it, more an 'I wish..'. If there is some truth, I'd be interested in hearing a source for it.

In fairness a couple of the wishes on it may come true, as you never know what's coming in aviation. But QR ain't going to be sending their 3 class A346's into MAN.

It's patently obvious there is demand for Business Class ex-MAN, but I never mentioned this. My point was the total lack of a market for a true First product, and thus no QR 346's. If MH had accepted this early enough we may been able to support a swap to a 2 class 772 instead of losing the service altogether.

I know SQ for one are doing excellent in Business (Raffles) Class into MAN, so much so that four times already this year I have not been able to get on SQ328 in Raffles, and that's as a PPS. As a result of this, SQ locally have asked the powers that be for a second flight 3 times a week, preferably Friday, Saturday and Sunday. It's unlikely to happen in the near future due to lack of aircraft but at least the request is in.

Ringwayman 21st Jun 2007 18:35

I'm sure SQ came out publically about going to 10 weekly 18 months ago, if "passenger demand" was maintained.

Isn't SV meant to be starting their route tomorrow? At least I've seen some blurb for the service with that date listed!

spannersatcx 22nd Jun 2007 07:24


Fact.

SV124 DEP MAN 1400hr Monday 2nd July.

SV122 DEP MAN 1400hr Friday 6th July.

B777-200 (GE90)
Fact SV121 STA1130 ETA1715 22nd June, off to a great start then!

Alan Tracey 22nd Jun 2007 09:18

Does anyone know who is the handling agent???

Vuelo 22nd Jun 2007 11:34

Servisair and SV have traffic rights between MAn and GVA, £99 return!

spanishflea 22nd Jun 2007 11:52

That could make for a very interesting and unusual weekend break!

Mr A Tis 22nd Jun 2007 15:12

..and for those enquiring about "First class" from Manchester, the Saudia B777 is showing as three classes. First, Business & Guest class.

The Real Slim Shady 22nd Jun 2007 16:37

I am told that the Airblue 321 blew a donk on take off from ISB and the flights for the next 3 days have been cancelled as no replacement is available.

MUFC_fan 22nd Jun 2007 16:53



Award winning low fares airline Monarch has successfully seen off a third airline on the Manchester to Barcelona route as a result of its low fares, high quality service and convenient flight times.
Monarch’s daily scheduled flights to Barcelona were launched in November 2003, in direct competition with Iberia, who were the legacy carrier on the route, plus BMIBaby, who also launched services in the same year. Both carriers subsequently withdrew from the route with Monarch operating as the sole carrier for a number of years.
In March 2007 however, Jet2 introduced flights between the two cities to compete head-to-head with Monarch. Despite only operating on the route for three months Jet2 are withdrawing services and have taken flights off-sale from September 2007.
Monarch’s managing director, Liz Savage commented on the news, “The launch of a new carrier on a route is great for consumers as it provides a wider selection of fares and flight times between the competing airlines. Marketshare statistics for the Manchester to Barcelona route reflect however that after initial interest in Jet2’s flights, their passenger numbers have been dropping as customers return to fly with Monarch. It is a great indicator to Monarch that is offering its customers what they want – low fares and a great level of service.”
Good news for ZB but not for MAN or LS, does anybody know what is replacing these routes?

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 22nd Jun 2007 20:15

It certainly departed MAN a lot earlier than the 1715 you had it in to arrive at.

I'd put it sometime between 1530 and 1630 local that she climbed out.

TURIN 22nd Jun 2007 20:18


Fact SV121 STA1130 ETA1715 22nd June, off to a great start then!
I know I feel stupid now!:}
Funny though that they were so desparate not to upset too many spotters and dignitaries they flew an empty 777 up from LHR which arrived at mid day (ish) .:ugh:
Money to burn these Saudi chaps. :rolleyes:


AWR, the scheduled one arrived at 1730 local. :ok:

Vuelo 22nd Jun 2007 21:08

Rumour has it LS are to go 2x dailu on the CDG route, though I would prefer to see a MAD service.

Mr A Tis 22nd Jun 2007 21:38

Yes I agree, LS should be on the MAD route. Not long ago we had 2 x RJs & 1 x CRJ a day on the route...and now none.
LS must realise though,a MAD service should be aimed as much at business customers as leisure traffic. BCN should have been the same -
ie not the silly times the BCN was scheduled for - no use for any business customers. There are alot of industrial/commercial links between Manchester & Barcelona. I know several people who will still travel via LHR to fly BA "C" rather than Monarch economy.
Easy seem to make a double daily BCN & a daily MAD work very well from LPL

MUFC_fan 22nd Jun 2007 22:41

I wonder if they will test drive the MAD service instead of the BCN service from September.

Yes, the times are unattractive, but they don't have ZB as competition or anybody else for that matter.

chiglet 22nd Jun 2007 22:50


Servisair and SV have traffic rights between MAn and GVA, £99 return
What a/c do Servisair operate on this route? :E
watp,iktch

wizo 23rd Jun 2007 09:10

whats a donk ?

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 23rd Jun 2007 09:29

Engine.


Turin - Can't believe they threw the LHR machine up there.

Face-saving on a grand scale indeed.

Vuelo 23rd Jun 2007 11:14

Believe me, with a full civic reception, MAplc directors , representatives of Saudia and the Saudi enbasy all at the airport to mark the occasionm, there was plenty of face saving to be done!

MUFC_fan 23rd Jun 2007 22:45

What happened to the visit of the A380 to MAN. It has visited the MUC so why not MAN, it this because none of the a/c will be based at the airport?

If it was to visit MAN in the near future before entering service I will be queing at 6am to get into the AVP!:}

pwalhx 23rd Jun 2007 23:10

Why because it went to MUC would it come to MAN, it did a flypast at the BAe plants in the UK


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