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Skyman
This is how I see it . Peel came along at a time when the local authorities couldnt really afford to run the Airport any longer. Their bid was put in at a bargain basement rate on condition that the Taxpayer, i.e the government office , development agencies and what have you, put in cash and resources to match Peels investment and on the back of a grandiose plan to create a Freight Village similar to the earlier failed effort of a company called (I think) Moorfield Semley who have since disappeared from the radar. Behind this was the cynical and shrewd reasoning in the Manchester Boardroom that should the aviation industry suffer a downturn here was a very large flat site which could easily be turned to a variety of uses. We have now arrived at a situation where two locos have been ,seen and not conquered , and one of the 2 mainstay routes has ceased to operate after a couple of sucessful decades. Add to that what seems to be very little interest being shown by the "bucket and spade" operators and the installation of a "puppet management team" controlled from Manchester and you have all the signs of a business which is following Woolworths and the Dunfermiline building society. Peel Holdings however still have a lump of estate which has roads, power and gas to it which, in the good times that will eventually follow the recession, can turn a very good profit. |
Parsnip,
Yes I can accept all that you say, & indeed it may be that DTV as a cost centre has not, historically contributed a great amount on an annual basis to Peels trading loss, this perhaps being more down to finance costs due to the debt that has arisen elsewhere. As such then perhaps Peel are in a much stonger position than I have previously given them credit to be able to bide their time.:confused: The thing that erks me the most is that Peel appear to have condoned the appointment of the most inappropriate, ill qualified & inexperienced motley crew of "non achievers" as ever assembled to run an airport anywhere with predictable consequences. That Peel appear to accommodate such poor management at DTV (even the board had a clear out last year !) is witnessed as they have moved the strategic positions over to Manchester, whilst leaving the :8lunatics:8 living in their own little world back at DTV to run the asylum. |
Not to sound like Gareth Southgate too much, the rights and wrongs behind the current position MME finds itself in is a debate for another day...what is important is making sure the flying public of Teesside to begin flying from MME.
Why haven't the Evening Gazette/local councils/DTV advertising department (or is that more specifically the desk in the corner of the office?) begun a campaign to encourage people to fly local rather than the futile call for the reinstatement of LHR-MME as I think this will be the only thing to actually alert people that there are still destinations you can fly to from DTV as all the negative press of route cuts will only just cause more passengers to go from NCL and LBA, bringing about the sad demise of a once (small) but successful regional airport altogether. Talking of which, I see FR are starting ALC and GRO tomorrow..atleast that makes the lack of LHR on the departure board!!However, I wonder how sales are doing as I imagine the man down the pub will simply think after the DUB announcement, 'Ryanair have left Teesside' much like when bmibaby left and people presumed BD had too. |
arrivals/departures board
another A spotted this morning...Armageddon !
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another A spotted this morning...Armageddon ! |
MME4eva Why haven't the Evening Gazette/local councils/DTV advertising department (or is that more specifically the desk in the corner of the office?) begun a campaign to encourage people to fly local.... as DTV's marketing department is also run by the :8 Lunatics !:8 |
I'm a bit out of touch here - did the final Heathrow leave on Saturday, and was it marked in any way?
Teesside was one of the best stations in terms of ground staff, well-run and tight-knit. This is all utterly unbelievable. On reflection, when Midland started the LHR-GLA/EDI/BFS routes circa 1983, suddenly Teesside wasn't the premier route anymore, despite it's high-yield traffic. Our aircraft used to get "nicked" by ops on a regular basis to fly ten passengers to Belfast, rather than fifty interliners on the 333, so that the company did not lose face in front of BA. What's happened, ultimately, is the logical conclusion of this policy. |
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MMEman
Seems your recent rumour on PPRune about KLM withdrawing from MME has been quoted word for word in today’s Northern Echo, as well as reaching staff at the airport. Never thought I’d ever see the day when a local journo printed anything other than the media spin supplied by MME, so good for him for following it up.
The article goes on to say :- A spokeswoman for KLM said yesterday: “We are cancelling some destinations, and I understand everybody is talking about these things because of the difficult times. “But there is absolutely no talk of cancelling the AMS-MME route.” Robin Tudor, from Peel Airports, which owns the airport, has also said KLM would “definitely not” go. |
Well in view of recent postings reflecting doom & gloom & various levels of accrimony I'd like to take this opportunity of placing on pprune today's press release abstracted from DTV's website with a view to addressing all the negativity that I have undoutedly contributed towards :-
The findings of a major survey announced today, showing Durham Tees Valley Airport is among the top ten in the country for customer satisfaction, ‘demonstrate that customers do want to fly from their local airport where personal service really counts.’ That is how Kerry Quinn, Airport Director, today welcomed the findings of the survey, the biggest of its kind, conducted by ‘Which? Holiday’ magazine where Durham Tees Valley achieved ratings ahead of its nearest neighbouring airports. In the key category of overall ‘airport experience’—which covered design of the airport, signage, flight information monitors, attitude and efficiency of staff—Durham Tees Valley achieved the top ‘five star’ rating, as it did with the ‘time and distance’ category from security to the boarding gate, getting through security and from check-in to security. Passengers questioned in the survey also gave the airport high ratings for parking facilities, check-in arrangements, airside amenities and return waiting times. Said Kerry, “At a time when regional airports are going through a challenging period, it is very encouraging to receive such a strong vote of confidence from passengers. The findings of the survey underline the strong support we know exists for the airport amongst people across the region—and the efforts everyone involved with the airport puts in to make travelling as easy and as comfortable as we can. “We are constantly looking at ways in which we can make the ‘airport experience’ even better and as we continue to expand—as we surely will in the years ahead despite the current economic difficulties—we aim to improve in all areas, including, for example, providing more shopping facilities. |
Sadly, I find myself gravitating towards the 'Master Plan' theory that has been aired before on this thread. Whilst the airport management have taken plenty of knocks on here, there is perhaps some skill required in managing an airport DOWN while at the same time making it NOT look like your fault that traffic ceases or operators leave and keeping the costs of said downwards management to a minimum (including the marketing budget) until such time as a line can be drawn regarding acceptable losses, the lights are switched off, the doors locked and the whole site transferred to the development department.
In that respect, the DTV Management Team seem to have done rather well, and not long to go now to root out the remaining traffic through 'unavoidable' redistribution of fixed operating costs. |
Let this be a lesson to you all. KLM are not leaving the airport. There is absolutely no truth in the rumour that the airport will only operate during daylight hours after the end of October and a satisfaction survey puts Teesside at the top of the satisfaction league.All losses of flights are absolutely nothing to do with the airport and are due entirely to national and international conditions.
Signed Kerry ( L*** L*** B*** O* F***) Quinn. P.S. I'm still on the payroll here despite all predictions of my demise. ( No I don't know how either ) |
Looks as though Air Southwest will be operating to London City from May 26th with Dash 8's.
See here for a press release. :ok: |
:D :} :} :} Nice One :} :} :} :D
:ok: ALMOST HAD ME GOING :ok: |
haha april fools. good one but as soon as i hovereed ove the link and saw tinyurl i knew somet was up :p
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Paarmo
Supposidly 80 to 90K and no its not a joke. |
I know April fools was Wednesday the Ist am, but why are DTVA advertising Easy jet to Madrid and Milan on the DTVA web site? Has the computer been hacked into?
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Can't see that on the site but the KLM statement seems to be unequivocal that they are staying and are continuing at the present 3 flights a day.I think Kerry must have called in some favours from KLM for them to issue such a strong statement so quickly after the rumours started. Kerry is quoted as saying she is happy too.As KLM are first out on a morning and often last in at night it would appear that the airport will continue to offer the same hours for the forseeable future.
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Must of been a computer problem like the bears last weekend. Perhaps an advert that should of been on the Liverpool site?
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paarmo I think Kerry must have called in some favours from KLM..... Kerry is quoted as saying she is happy too |
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