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PhilM 31st Oct 2006 01:40

Continuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...231075&page=17


All gone quiet again now! Excel gone, My Travel gone, Baby on their winter program (down by midnight).

Anyone heard whether ThomsonFly are putting in a 737 Classic or NG next summer?

Rumour has it Aviance are going to be given the push aswell, airport is said to be fedup with Servisair, who I believe have the ground handling contract, subcontracting it out, they have to take it in-house. :suspect:

AvianceUK 31st Oct 2006 17:11

Hey Phil...

Not seen you in a while.. Where you been???

There was a rumour around that Aviance had a 90 day notice recently... Nothing official though.

Just to clarify... Aviance are the only ground agents to work airside - baggage etc so we handle everything that you see ( as an engineer )... As said Subed by servisair on their contracts. So any deficit is down to us on that part! But to clarify what I read some time ago, Aviance took over Airway Handling... And now we have the same stucture and managers as they did.. So in effect, Airway took Aviance over!!! We currently run exactly the same way, one year on, as Airway did.

But hold on there..... There's a new kid in town!!! Yep, we got ourselves a 'project manager', here to sort us out!! Not wanting to post any names, but, he used to be station manager for swissport at BHX...!

Some changes have been implemented, though relatively small so far, being end of season. But many more, and more significant changes are on the way ' apparently ' to make Aviance at CWL an ' Aviance ' operation.... Which it certainly isn't at the moment.

So watch this space!! I for one hope it gets better for all of us, coz this summer has been the worst ever!!

Saying that, looking at the weather, possible de-icing Thursday morn if Mr Frost makes an appearence!! And guess what??? WE ARE NOT READY!!! Oooh days off are nice!!!!

So Phil, I hope for yours and our sake, things do get better!!! And don't always blame the guy in charge on the ground, as he can only work with the number of men he's got on a team and to the time he was told about it!!! Generally when it's on approach!!!!

Shocking summer... I hope all that deal with us, and myself have a better winter!!

Cheers

AvUK

WOWBOY 1st Nov 2006 15:45

Despite the romours Air Southwest are still flying from CWL in Summer 2007, although the flight times etc remain the same.

PhilM 6th Nov 2006 17:57

Looks like www.cwlfly.com has had a make over, doesn't look too bad :ok:

Bit foggy here the last day or so, I assume thats the reason theres an Easy 737 down the bottom? (Std 12 is it?)

AvUK, you got a PM :)

caaardiff 6th Nov 2006 22:43

Unsure which version of the site i prefer at the moment. Looks good though.

The fog has caused havoc again today. Majority of flights ending up in BRS.
The Easy A319 on 12 is there as it missed the BRS runway curfew Sunday night. This looks to be a regular thing until march!

Deal or No deal 7th Nov 2006 18:49

FOG
 
Two days running now!! Fairly quiet on the apron!! Though of course, not for pax services!!

Winter isn't supposed to be this quiet is it??!!

Yep, we are now receiving BRS rejects!! We've had EZY and KLM here. The BA A319 seems to be a Heathrow overnight parker?? Comes here empty to park and goes off to Heathrow the next day to operate? A regular thing it would seem??!!

New website looks nice, though the 'live info' could do with extending it's 'range' as it did before... A little too short sighted for my liking!!!!!

cym 8th Nov 2006 09:45

TOM
 
Any idea when (if) the new s07 routes suggested for TOM will go on sale?

MonkeyB 8th Nov 2006 11:18

Re Tom
 
Thomsonfly haven't released their full programme yet. More will be added soon, probably Dec - from what I've heard CWL will get more, although nothing to get too excited about.

MB

Smile!!! 14th Nov 2006 20:53

Well TOM have just realeased the schedule for s07 and NO BCN! despite promises, its only from Coventry. Though Jersy is back for next year, no real suprises. Funchal is not there but Faro is. Any news to come as it looks like theyve completed the summer 07 schedule to me?

caaardiff 14th Nov 2006 21:56

FNC is being operated by FCA during S07, TOM are advertising it for W07/08.
No real surprises because most of the schedule has been up for weeks and word about new routes spread quite fast, its only FAO, JER, FNC and BCN that hadn't been released.
I'm still pretty confident they will eventually release BCN. Otherwise they will have a/c sitting around doing nothing.
Why would TOM only operate BCN from Coventry? When it advertises DSA, CVT, BOH and CWL as its low-fares bases. Its not like TOM to operate one single route.

Smile!!! 15th Nov 2006 16:28

FAO and JER are already bookable on their webpage, its just FNC and BCN that are yet to be announced:confused:

johnrizzo2000 15th Nov 2006 16:38

Hows the RE service to Dublin doing? EI should have jumped in there when FR pulled out!

Smile!!! 15th Nov 2006 16:59


EI should have jumped in there when FR pulled out!
That was never going to happen. They have no intrest into expanding into CWL or the UK as a whole really. They are even reducing frquncies on some UK routes. Sad really when you see what KLM have done at AMS, not really the biggest of destinations, but have a massive amount of flights to the UK. EI could have made DUB into a larger airport and a bigger airline than thay are today.:ugh: Sad considering the first commercial flight from CWL was on Aer Lingus in 1952.(Not that I was alive then;) )

MerchantVenturer 15th Nov 2006 17:22

john

Raw CAA pax figures on DUB-CWL-DUB sched for last four months, working backwards from October:

5020, 4652, 5317 and 4733 giving an average load in the low to mid 30s.

There is a certainly a bigger market than this if the product is there because the comparable figures for 2005 with FR were respectively 10243, 10143, 10763 and 10526.

However, Arann seem to charge on average higher fares than FR and provide better timed and more rotations than did FR, so I suppose business pax are happier with the extra flexibility of flights and timings, and the airline with the return, although of course only it will know that.

I guess those not so happy will be the leisure travellers who potentially form a significant group out of any large city airport. They will have to pay a bit more for their relaxation.

As Smile!!! points out, EI seems to be a bit unconvinced about regional UK links, albeit the airports they have pulled out of or are about to have FR competition and are not in the top eight busiest UK fields.

With no FR at CWL now, EI might have considered it but would they have gone double daily (as FR were working up to before they left - there were only two weekdays that were single daily)? You will know probably better than me that facility is often required by business pax.

bycrewlgw 15th Nov 2006 22:20

FNC is available on the Thomsonfly website. It is only a winter destination for TOM details are:

Mon
Flight TOM 4703 09:00 Depart Cardiff (CWL)
12:20 Arrive Funchal (FNC)

Mon
Flight TOM 4707 13:20 Depart Funchal (FNC)
16:35 Arrive Cardiff (CWL)

BYCREWLGW:ok:

a1234 16th Nov 2006 15:26

Is it likely that a Paris or Brussels route will be reintroduced soon? And also if there are any plans for Flybe to enter CWL, because it says on their website they want to open new bases soon. Is it likely they would operate at CWL, or anyone else for that matter?

pipertommy 16th Nov 2006 16:08

Now that would be a major boost for CWL to see FLYBE making an approach to operate the remaing routes:8
Whats the temp-buliding that has been constructed on the southside next to the Air Wales hangar?anything to do with the removed airbridge??

flower 16th Nov 2006 16:50


Originally Posted by pipertommy (Post 2969662)
Whats the temp-building that has been constructed on the southside next to the Air Wales hangar?anything to do with the removed airbridge??

Not a 100% sure but when I asked was told it was something to do with food production. That of course is probably 180Degrees from the truth :}

No rumours about FlyBe circulating as far as I'm aware although many of their routes would be compatible with an operation such as Cardiff, we can but dream. :8

a1234 16th Nov 2006 18:02

I can't believe though that there is still no paris link, and with bmibaby looking like doing nothing in the next year it would take some other airline to introduce this one. What about Jet2 opening a base here?

AvianceUK 17th Nov 2006 13:48

Re: Southside building
 
I hear it's do do with a new catering company operating at CWL. Having seen an advert for staff in the local rag a few weeks back ( can't remember what outfit it was ), it would fit in...

From what I hear, BABY have dropped Alpha for this new operator.

Air bridge stand ten has gone away to be refurbished... Other two to follow I hear... Money better spent on air bridges that can fit more than two or three types of a/c????

Works on old pier coming along... Though after many revisions of the plans, the budget is a little over what was expected!

Also, I hear the tent will come down, stand one be closed for building works on the reclaim area. Not sure of timescale. Toilet facilities there seem to be an issue at the moment! Lack of....

Av...


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