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PhilM 17th Nov 2006 17:21

I heard a long time ago that Baby had dropped Alpha aswell, however that one went quiet. Heard from an Alpha lad the other day, that Thomson had dropped them in favour of the new company - but not sure about Baby, didn't seem to think so!

Anyone have any information on the AC at CWL that had landing gear troubles (stuck up I believe), diverted to MAN in the end, I assume they got the gear down, as I've not seen anything in Romours/News or the press.

One thing I think they need to sort ASAP is the area infront of the terminal includng the road area. The Zebra crossings are very poorly lit and I'm sure a few of the staff at CWL have nearly had a passnger or two over :{. Get some lighting up there, also, why not on the road from the roundabout (by Alpha/ICAT), perhaps on the left heading towards the terminal paint a few temporary parking bays up there (where they park anyway), and move the white line dividing the two lanes up accross. Needs to be sorted as its terrible at the moment!

Smile!!! 17th Nov 2006 17:30

New Caterers at CWL
 
Is the new catering company at CWL going to be Select Service Partner, aviation catering division?

http://www.answers.com/Select%20Service%20Partner

Does anyone know when/if they are starting service on WW or TOM:confused:

PhilM 17th Nov 2006 18:21

Don't think its SSP mate. They do all of the landside & airside catering (BK, Food Courts & Bars) at Cardiff and other airports. Not aware that they do any airline catering as such.

The name I was told escapes me, three letters long though...(like that helps :ouch: )

stalling attitude 17th Nov 2006 21:18

three letters. KFC?

bycrewlgw 18th Nov 2006 10:27

Not LSG is it? They have the TOM contracts in most other bases.

PhilM 18th Nov 2006 15:34

LSG, thats the one :)

caaardiff 23rd Nov 2006 10:18

BMI Baby
 
Baby's schedule for S07 has been released. Doesnt seem to be many changes, one or two flights reduced, one or two increased.
Nothing that seems to support that 4th a/c though! :ugh:

cym 23rd Nov 2006 10:35

bmibaby s07
 
Strange use of aircraft as things stand!

Currently no slot 1 use of 3rd aircraft with first dep to BFS @ 1020 ish which is not ideal for business day returns etc.

Also GLA down to 1 rotation daily at present - (seems familiar...)

More to come maybe?

Deal or No deal 25th Nov 2006 21:01

Baby... Oh... Baby!!
 
What has happened here to our fourth aircraft?? Deployed somewhere else?? Well thanks a bunch!!

Seems by the news and booking engine that our fourth a/c is not to be?? Perhaps they will come up trumps, but I doubt it!!

Seriously though, as a worker, I DO NOT WANT TO WORK THERE NEXT SUMMER!! AFTER WORKING LAST SUMMER UNDER IMMENSE PRESSURE... SIMPLE FACT OF ME AND MANY COLLEAGUES NOT WANTING TO UNDERGO THE **** THAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER!!!

I'm glad CWL is expanding, I only wish that there was some communication with airport authorities, contractors, handling agents, and anyone else that has to suffer the CWL regime!!

At the mo, It's all a blur.... Imagine taking down an air bridge and not telling anyone..... Well the people who allocate stands didn't know!!! Nice one! Worth your money I'm sure:= Take a golf break and come back smiling!!!

Last I heard was of the THIRTEENTH REVISION of the plans!! LOL!! Really?? No wonder work is behind!! Airport not sure of what it wants for the future, so architects revise plans, work goes on... Even heard of one wall being built, the airport authorities demanding it be pulled down??!! What a waste of money!! Hear they are already 2 Mill over budget!!

caaardiff 26th Nov 2006 00:19

I couldnt agree more! :ok:

The Management at CWL need a good kick up the behind!

If only they read this or actually listen when the people that use the place on a daily basis have something to say! :ugh:

Waste of money?? too right!
Its a shame when they put these walls up, E.G - then have to renovate them again because of a leak thats been there over 2 years and has never been fixed!

CWL will never expand, after this year the pax wont come back!

Roll on Summer 07!

Smile!!! 26th Nov 2006 14:58

baby 4th Aircraft
 
I do believe that the fourth ww aircraft was originaly planned for cwl. But with typical baby style things change at the last minute all the time. So the aircraft has been planned for all 4 bases at some stage. It is looking incresingly likley though that it will go to MAN with the merger of BACON and flybe they may wish to capilitize on the situatuin with more domestic flights fro MAN. Though that is not ruling out Cardiff or any other airport for that matter. The airport has not yet been realesed to the public so the schedule is not yet final.(bmibaby :rolleyes: :confused: )

Smile!!! 28th Nov 2006 18:13

It has been mentioned on the flybe thread and in referance the BRS thread, and on a different site I have seen that flybe let slip in there press realese that they were going to fly to CWL. Thought this has know been removed as they have realised there mistake with no new routes set out, so is this wrong or just information realesed early? What routes do you think BE could do, some German and French (maybe finnaly CDG) but what about WW/TOM on some of the bucket and spade routes and the competition? Is there really enough room in the S Wales market for all these flights?:confused:


In further news Aer Arann is to start a new flight to Nantes. The Cardiff to Nantes service will operate on Saturdays departing Cardiff at 12.50pm and Nantes at 11.45 am. The service will be operated by an ATR72 66 seater aircraft.
http://info.cwlfly.com/en/news/3/233...r-'07.html

So does anyone know what will happen to the Lorient route?

en2r 28th Nov 2006 20:54


Originally Posted by Smile!!! (Post 2991441)
In further news Aer Arann is to start a new flight to Nantes. The Cardiff to Nantes service will operate on Saturdays departing Cardiff at 12.50pm and Nantes at 11.45 am. The service will be operated by an ATR72 66 seater aircraft.
http://info.cwlfly.com/en/news/3/233...r-'07.html

So does anyone know what will happen to the Lorient route?

London Luton to Lorient hasn't been announced either so maybe it might be announced yet. The Nantes route will probably be operated by a Cork based aircraft on a w pattern.

cym 29th Nov 2006 15:46

Flybe
 
The rumour that Flybe are coming into CWL seems to be gathering apace. Apart from a (now deleted) news item on their website has anyone seen any evidence to support this move?

Also, considering the fanfare when the new cwlfly website went live why haven't the CWL maketing bods made the most of using this as a way of promoting the airport? Websites are only used if the content changes on a regular basis. Ok, they've now put details of the new Nantes service on but never made any mention of TOM Jersey flights going on sale, baby s07 fully on sale etc etc. Come on CWL Marketing - get your act together!

Deal or No deal 29th Nov 2006 19:32

Hmmmmm
 
What my little ears have heard!!!

Sky chefs - LSG got Thomson contract, seen them operating already and perhaps baby going there soon?? Not started yet so can't confirm.

What have Alpha got left?? Winter is quiet for them now.

Stand 1 to be closed in Jan for baggage reclaim building works? Where the 'tent' is.

Servisair coming back on the ramp??

Phase 2 of building to start in Jan... 'Proper' walkway with 'new' airbridges to be built out in direction of old pier to wards then stand 2, now 12 and 17 as in the masterplan.

BAMC doing all the refits of 747 and 777 for BAs new seating hype.


Questions now!

What are the Sunday flights to Guernsey?? Perm or just once of twice?? And from memory... was there one to IOM too??? Regular or visitor???

Can CWL take an A380?? Runway, taxiways and stands? If REALLY need be??

Cheers

No Deal

a1234 29th Nov 2006 20:01

There is a huge case for another airline at CWL especially a larger one like the new Flybe. I'm sick of travelling to Bristol just to get to places like Paris and Berlin which would work fine at CWL. Just because the South Wales region is close to Bristol doesn't mean a paris, brussels or berlin route won't work. I mean even Exeter and Southampton have better routes at the moment, CWL deserves more. Could we also please have a good link to Dublin with Aer Lingus. Aer Arran offer poor service, and they are putting up their prices on the route!

Concerned_CWL 29th Nov 2006 20:05

Zoom UK
 
With Zoom UK due to startup next year, what is the possibility of CWL having a ny route? Zoom has already stated that they will expand operations from their existing UK hubs and with the market for the route being there, surely it is time to introduce it?

caaardiff 30th Nov 2006 15:40

Zoom have stated about using existing bases, however in my opinion i cant see them actually offering many routes. The ones they will,(possibly somewhere like SFB, SFO, JFK?) will be split with probably either LGW or BFS (as are YYZ and YVR currently)
YYZ was doing very well last year being direct, Zoom have cut the service for the winter, ending i think mid Dec, and returning mid Apr. But last year this was the case and they started up early. Who knows!?
I believe there are no direct YYZ service for S07 though. Its LGW-CWL-YYZ again.
Look at the routes offered to the South-West. EXT, BRS, SOU, and even BHX. You go further west into Wales, and nothing available until you get to DUB!! surely there must be a market that drives straight past CWL to get to BRS. I also think FlyBe is what CWL needs. Its competition for Baby, and its a chance for some decent european routes.

Stand 1 to be closed in Jan for baggage reclaim building works? Where the 'tent' is.
Great, that will be 2 stands out of use - Stand 10 and 1.
Anyone know how long each airbridge will be away for?
Hopefully they will all be back in action ready for the Rugby flights in Mar

Phase 2 of building to start in Jan... 'Proper' walkway with 'new' airbridges to be built out in direction of old pier to wards then stand 2, now 12 and 17 as in the masterplan.
So soon?? Was it really worth building the extra gates??
How many new airbridges are they planning? I didnt see any on the masterplan, and it shows them all going ready for 2030. Some to fit the 737's they need now.
I have to give it to the management, for once they are actually moving things along. This was all scheduled for completion in 2015!

Can CWL take an A380?? Runway, taxiways and stands? If REALLY need be??
I cant see that ever happening.
Are BA actually getting these now? There was talk W. Walsh was interested.
That would probably be the only reason an A380 would pop into CWL.

MonkeyB 30th Nov 2006 16:03

Will the new building work also start on the extension to the departure lounge - filling in the gap in the L? This is long overdue - anybody who's been here during the summer will have witnessed the caos. Real shame that they've missed the opportunity to let a bit of daylight into the place.

Couldn't agree more about FlyBe, lets hope that they are on the verge of announcing something interesting from CWL - to be fair they're spoilt for choice on the route front! Plus they could pocket a bit of support through the RDF.

I'd particularly like to see them have a go at T3 on NCL - Welsh people are too tight to pay £300 plus for a day return! Mrs MonkeyB does Newcastle about twice a month with EZY from BRS and it's packed with penny pinching Welsh people.

MB

a1234 30th Nov 2006 16:46

BRS
 
Well I try to fly from CWL as much as I can, because I fly twice weekly to Paris and once to Berlin as well as the occasional Dublin trip. But not one of these happens from CWL but from BRS, and I've noticed a lot of people in these flights are from South Wales. Figures show that 30% of BRS pax are from Wales so there is a huge market for atleast a couple of basic routes from CWL which include Paris, Berlin, Brussels and perhaps something to Italy.

I 've also noticed that a lot of people have used Aer Arann but then with the considerably lower prices at BRS with Aer Lingus and Ryanair, so again CWL loses on basic routes!

What is the likelihood of Lufthansa starting some German routes next year, as was recently said in the press?


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