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Cyrano 16th Jan 2007 10:16


Originally Posted by cwl747 (Post 3070480)
New to this so i guess id start by posting a rumour, that may not have any consistancy but its worth a look.
I found the following on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CWL
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Rumour has it that BA will be starting a direct service with a boeing 777-200 aircraft with a daily flight to NEW YORK (JFK) and united airlines will be staring a service to washigton dulles using a 767-300 aircraft.
Further to that Ehiad Airlines are looking to open a base at the airport, further details to follow.
United and Ba? never heard of this before, what do you guys think?????

Welcome to PPRUNE, cwl747!

I'm not sure that I would trust an unlikely-sounding "rumour" coming from someone who can't even spell "Etihad" :rolleyes:

Sanity check: if US carriers like CO with huge onward connecting feed potential are not yet convinced that the CWL market is enough to justify a 757, er... why exactly would BA feel that the CWL-NYC point-to-point market justifies a 777?

So IMHO the author of the Wikipedia rumour sounds like someone with a tenuous grasp of the distinction between reality and adolescent wish-fulfilment fantasy (well, you asked :) )

C.

mathers_wales_uk 16th Jan 2007 11:25


Now the Staff canteen has gone, they should extend into the service yard..... and how about a small extra domestic arrivals hall by the new pier (by security lodge) to save all the heartache and farcical arguments with immigration and their prescious new hall!!!
I totall agree with Cardiff with this, during the demolition of the tent all flights have to go through imigration (like a normal airport) but immigration has to have a phone call to say that were bringing in a domestic. It would help greatly if there were to be a domestic arrivals over by stand 12/13/14.

It also another good idea to build out to the service yard to extend departures, but the only porblem with that is BK food village and Scrum V bar will all have to move to take the departures out.

On the other hand i believe the reason the canteen has gone is that down the bottom where the aviance ticket desk is located or the canteern/ there will be stairs to enter departures. There will either be a security point on the ground floor or at the top of the new stairs which would make all of upstairs airside. I feel this would be an excellent idea as would cut down on passengers going through into departures at the last minute, and may bring us in some new retail investment.

Where the tend was located, i believe there will be a new extension to the terminal, where either the departures or exec lounge will be extended.





Looking at the first choice web site. From Cardiff there maybe two aircraft based there on a monday as total flying times exceed 24 hours but the remainder of the week's flights total flying time will only support 1 a/c.

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jetstream7 16th Jan 2007 16:59

Cyrano... agree with what you post about the rumour fantasies.

cwl747... what you find on Wikipedia is (not uncommonly, unfortunately) a load of rubbish.
Anyway Wikipedia have now reviewed and removed the comment so the handiwork of IP address 86.27.50.130 is no longer viewable

Pipertommy... FlyBE's definition of a base is somewhat loose at best, and seems to consist of any airport where they operate through... I have seen other UK airports described in a similar way to the way they have described CWL as a base on the basis of occasional visits

WATABENCH 17th Jan 2007 06:34


Originally Posted by caaardiff (Post 3070598)
First Choice are rumoured to have a A321 base during the summer...can anyone confirm this?

No they wont be haveing a 321 based, Skyservice A320 with 17 flights per week at peak period, no visiting FCA's either (not intentionally anyway), have a gander at the First Choice thread.

As for Flybe, I thought this may happen, infact I believe I said earlier in the thread that it doesnt sound like they're baseing, and prob just testing the water :hmm:

mathers_wales_uk 17th Jan 2007 09:09


Originally Posted by WATABENCH (Post 3072964)
No they wont be haveing a 321 based, Skyservice A320 with 17 flights per week at peak period, no visiting FCA's either (not intentionally anyway), have a gander at the First Choice thread.

Yeah the flight deck last summer said that they were coming back in S07 but if you look at the flying schedule there must be a seccond a/c on at least a monday as the total flying times of all 5 routes are over 24 hours.

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LGWAlan 17th Jan 2007 12:06

Mathers

Trust what Watabench says - he is DEFINITELY in the know as far as FC ops are concerned.

caaardiff 17th Jan 2007 12:38

Onur Air are increasing flights. x2 on a sun and x2 on a mon.
I think first choice use the Mon flight, and its also a split with EXT which would explain the extra FCA schedule

cwl747 17th Jan 2007 14:55

So IMHO the author of the Wikipedia rumour sounds like someone with a tenuous grasp of the distinction between reality and adolescent wish-fulfilment fantasy (well, you asked :) )

C.[/quote]

I was looking for an honest answer, my frined in my college who has a uncle or some relative working on the market board said wizz were sniffing around, any rumours on that yet?

PeterP 17th Jan 2007 15:28

Unfortunately, the Wikipedia entry on CWL is constantly assaulted by vandals and those who believe it is some kind of blog for their pet theories. Strange that this rarely happens with other airport entries in the encyclopedia. Thankfully, there are enough informed people patrolling the UK airport entries to revert nonsense on the CWL page fairly rapidly.

mathers_wales_uk 17th Jan 2007 15:33

ok thanks Caardiff it's just people on here are technically caling me a liar but as i posted in the FC Forum the flying times are there on the FC website. Maybe they will be operated by another airline but on mondays in s07

Destination Flying time

Bourgas 3 hours 15 mins
Corfu 3 hours 15 mins
Dalaman 4 Hrs
Funchal 3 hrs 25 mins
Mahon 2 hrs 10 mins

with an hour turnaround between every flight and the same flying time for the return leg, work the maths out for yourself. This is not a rumour it is on the FC website.

cwl747 17th Jan 2007 15:38

I agree there always seems to be some rubbish in there, the reason i asked though was for the possibility of a middle east connection but i think that Emirates would more likely offer it than Etihad, thanks any way.

cwl747

Smile!!! 17th Jan 2007 18:00

M4 Link
 
According to Rhodri Morgan on tonights news, a link from the M4 link is a must and very likley too happen!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6268427.stm

Although not directly in that piece. This was furhter added to by JH at CWL as needed now, never mind when it opens. The military St Athan base is too open and be FULLY operational by 2013, so it cant be happening to far in the future. FINGERS CROSSED, that the Grand Tour of RoundAbouts of J33 will finally be over!

Also- http://info.cwlfly.com/en/news/2/240...es-metrix.html

At CWL congratulating the project

mathers_wales_uk 17th Jan 2007 19:13

Yeah i seen that and JH looking very happy. (I'm sure i seen £ signs in his eyes). think of the WAG funding flights to other domestic routes for all Military Personel. Plus an improved transport network. We may actually see cardiff looking like a proper airport soon.

Any signs of added frequency on the Rail link as of yet?

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mathers_wales_uk 17th Jan 2007 21:54

Looks like aviance are starting their recruitment campaign for the summer for both front of house and ramp. Dispatchers will be airside soon, but can they trust front of house staff to be there at the gate ready to board and meet the flights?

Anyone know when the porter service for wheelchair passengers will begin at the airport, this will free up staff that usually are needed at the boarding gate.

Any news when airbridge 10 will be back in action? It seems to have dissapeard for a while, doubt the other two will be completed ready by the summer.

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FlyboyUK 18th Jan 2007 07:47

Looks like its going to get pretty windy for you guys in CWL today. Here's this morning's TAF

EGFF 180612Z 180716 24035G50KT 9999 -RA BKN020 TEMPO 0712 4000 RADZ BKN010 BECMG 1113 27035G50KT TEMPO 1114 27040G70KT TEMPO 1215 5000 SHRA BKN014

Better hang on to your hats!

Antdenatale 18th Jan 2007 12:48


Originally Posted by FlyboyUK (Post 3075255)
Better hang on to your hats!

It was quite bad there this morning, turned up for the WW flight to Belfast and was not surprised it was cancelled. I had problems walking from the car park as it was so gusty :mad:

Well done to the folks at Cardiff this morning, good Customer Service dealing the the cancelled flights :ok:

mathers_wales_uk 18th Jan 2007 18:04

Antdenatale

Thank you very much for appreciating the customer service that was provided by aviance, nice to see that our efforts are noticed. Hopefully standards will continue to improve by aviance staff and could provide a much better service in the future.

Seen the Eastern Airways try to land on Runway 30 at 8:15am. I dn't even know why he attempted but approx 500 ft from the ground got hit by a crosswinds and tilted about 45 degrees. Thankfully the a/c was ok and pilot made a good decision to divert to Bristol. I doubt landing in a Jetstream during those conditions can't be good.

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f1-6 sabre boy 18th Jan 2007 20:08

mathers uk, what do you mean "my staff" your just another brick in the wall like the rest of them. customer service was good in cwl this morning but the trips to the bus shelter to smoke should be cut in half.

mathers_wales_uk 18th Jan 2007 20:18


Originally Posted by f1-6 sabre boy (Post 3076627)
mathers uk, what do you mean "my staff" your just another brick in the wall like the rest of them. customer service was good in cwl this morning but the trips to the bus shelter to smoke should be cut in half.

Sorry it was a typing error on my behalf it should have been 'by staff' instead of 'my staff'. I totally agree with you that a lot of cigarette breaks are taken but coming from a non-smoaker like myself, i'm not happy that they go off and have a 'fag break', you don't see other staff going for a 'freash air break'.

Things should drastically change and improve soon, (well i hope) when Aviance dispatchers will be based landside, and there will be a check-in supervisor which will organise the staff for check-in and the meeting/boarding of flights. Whether this will work at the moment with some people thinking they can do what they wan't, time can only tell. It would nice to see a proffessional and discaplined company being run this summer with hopefully a very good bunch of Passenger Services Agents starting for the summer, some staff wern't the best last year and a lot had left after not too long in the job.

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mathers_wales_uk 19th Jan 2007 20:23

All hapening at CWL
 
Bmi Baby Flight arrived with a passenger fainted but came around while a/c was on approach, no further assistance was required.


First Choice Airways from TFS - CWL reported a medical emergency en-route to CWL. Paramedics, Airport first responders and CWL care team were all there to deal with the passenger (Passenger then taken to hospital). Another passenger on board the a/c was then sick as it was being offloaded. (didn't require anymore assistance).

Couple been arested by Airport Police as one swore abuse at the boarding staff, and the other threw everything around at check-In including flowers on the designated Eastern Airways check-In. The agressive behaviour really shoock up the check-in staff.

This was a suprising string of events that happened within a space of a hour and 15 minutes. This shows how even the smallest of airports can have a lot of serious things happening all at once.


To sum it all up the Thomson was delayed 8 hours, the cause is unknown to me, but it could be a knock on effect from the adverse weather conditions yesterday.

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