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FRatSTN 13th Nov 2013 12:38

Great news! Every little helps!

whitelighter 13th Nov 2013 18:30

Wonder what theyll be flying.

I think they sold their last Electra to Buffalo

pamann 13th Nov 2013 20:14


Wonder what theyll be flying.
RJ100 or maybe the A319.

So with Air Moldova and Atlantic Airways poached back, who's next on MAG's hit list? Aegean is back during peak season (Summer/Christmas). Maybe they'll relocate the LGW services to Stansted full time?

Air Arabia Maroc, Air Baltic, Air Europa, Air Serbia, Meridiana? All possibilities perhaps?

FRatSTN 13th Nov 2013 21:32

I'd like to hope Blue Air. They don't really bring much to Luton. I think they'd be more valued back at Stansted.

Wizz will operate up to 3 departures a day to Bucharest from Luton, hardly compares to Blue Air's 5 per week or whatever it is.

Gatwick has to be the big focus for attracting airlines to switch airports. Possibly could be a number of other airlines there where a move to Stansted shouldn't be ruled out.

LAX_LHR 13th Nov 2013 21:37

Id say any operator of small jets into LGW is ripe to be taken thanks to the charges. Flybe have cut and run (Dash-8 and E jets), air Moldova (E jets) and Atlantic Airlines (Avro jet) have moved, so, is there anyone else?

Boeing737-8 13th Nov 2013 21:54

Fr at stn
 
You are not missing much with blue air horrible night flights and not even their planes sometimes. With Wizz increasing this could be possible but no way would Wizz ever move in the next 5 years to Stansted as more routes and frequencies are announced at Luton

pamann 13th Nov 2013 22:04

No one mentioned Wizz moving did they? (Not that old chestnut)

Boeing737-8 you have a lot to learn about the aviation business: Never say never :ok:

Tranceaddict 14th Nov 2013 16:59


I think they sold their last Electra to Buffalo
Did you get Atlantic Airways muddled with Atlantic Airlines who are now part of West Atlantic?

Aero Mad 14th Nov 2013 17:42


Id say any operator of small jets into LGW is ripe to be taken thanks to the charges. Flybe have cut and run (Dash-8 and E jets), air Moldova (E jets) and Atlantic Airlines (Avro jet) have moved, so, is there anyone else?
Aurigny currently uses AT7s on 6x daily flights between LGW and GCI. As of 31 March 2014 they will use an E95 (leased until June) on five of the six and an AT7 on the other. Fees will still be exorbitant despite the equipment upgrade.

But they treasure their Gatwick route more than anything - though perhaps in a few years there might be a refocussing of London services to provide each airport with 3x daily, thus spreading the cost?

rocket_dog 16th Nov 2013 11:48

Monarch!
 
Saw Monarch looking over the building work in the terminal at stansted yesterday and the operation around satellites...

sat1 16th Nov 2013 11:57

Seen by a lot of people wandering around with swissport management,this would certainly explain why swissport are investing in so much new equipment.

whitelighter 16th Nov 2013 14:33


Did you get Atlantic Airways muddled with Atlantic Airlines who are now part of West Atlantic?
Ah yes. I probably did

sxflyer 16th Nov 2013 14:39

An interesting one but I'm not really sure what they bring to the table. Is this instead of LGW/LTN? In addition to them?

They would have FR to directly contend with on most of their core bucket and spade routes, most city routes are already covered which contrasts with the situation at LTN, and they don't really do long haul anymore. All it really leaves are a few Turkish and North African routes EZY/FR could do if they really wanted to.

TOWTEAMBASE 17th Nov 2013 08:34

STANSTED - 2
 
I wouldn't get too excited about Atlantic, I seem to remember that their schedule was sketchy to say the least. Flights were scheduled but more often than not got cancelled or ran horrendously late. I've not heard the Saturday night transaero lately, is it still around ?

Boeing737-8 21st Nov 2013 14:25

Eleven more airports, including Luton and Stansted, to use full-body scanners | World news | theguardian.com

j636 21st Nov 2013 14:58

Can't copy link as on phone but fr announce 12 routes for summer 14 and increased freq on other.

fivejuliet 21st Nov 2013 15:16

New routes to Basel, Bordeaux, Brive, Bucharest, Comiso, Dortmund, Lisbon, Osijek, Podgorica, Prague, Rabat & Skelleftea

davidjohnson6 21st Nov 2013 15:30

I thought Bordeaux, Comiso, Dortmund, Lisbon and Rabat had already been announced some weeks/months ago... but I suppose things work differently in the Ryanair world...

Skelleftea is interesting - is it marketing support, or some other reason ?

FRatSTN 21st Nov 2013 16:10

I think it means 12 new routes in total for Summer 2014 that didn't operate in Summer 2013.

I'm surprised they haven't added Minorca or another Greek airport such as Kalamata or Zante. They seem clear choices to me. I guess there's still time.

whitelighter 21st Nov 2013 20:20

I suppose they have to do something with extra 7 base aircraft next summer.

Next winter will be interesting as they say they will fly all 47 rather than parking 20.

davidjohnson6 25th Nov 2013 09:29

Seems that Belle Air won't be flying to Stansted any more

Source - Belle Air

whitelighter 25th Nov 2013 13:21

Where did you hear that?

Keyvon 25th Nov 2013 13:27

BelleAir Albania went bust last night.

sxflyer 25th Nov 2013 13:36

I did hear though that Belavia might be moving north from LGW next year. I gather they use E-jets nowadays, so perhaps with the high charges there is something in this

whitelighter 25th Nov 2013 14:13

That'll do it

pamann 26th Nov 2013 20:25

EasyJet Expansion?
 
Loads of new routes have appeared on the Stansted Wiki page. Now I know it's not always fact is Wiki, but anyone know any truth in it?

Alicante - From 15 September 2014
Athens - From 22 September 2014
Belgrade - From 16 September 2014
Casablanca - From 17 September 2014
Gibraltar - From 16 September 2014
Helsinki - From 15 September 2014
Larnaca - From 17 September 2014
Milan Linate - From 15 September 2014
Newcastle - From 22 September 2014
Paris CDG - From 22 September 2014
Rome FCO - From 29 September 2014
Toulouse - From 15 September 2014
Vienna - From 24 September 2014


This is fantastic news if true! :ok:

racedo 26th Nov 2013 20:39


Loads of new routes have appeared on the Stansted Wiki page. Now I know it's not always fact is Wiki, but anyone know any truth in it?
Always believe a route is running after first landing.

davidjohnson6 26th Nov 2013 20:39

The entries on wikipedia were added by someone who was not logged in to wikipedia and gave only an IP address. The IP address is registered to an Internet provider based in the UK. Until today, the IP address in question had never made any other edits to wikipedia, so cannot assess them based on their past actions.

Either it's a wiki-vandal, or it's someone who wants to leak without being identified.

racedo 26th Nov 2013 20:53


Either it's a wiki-vandal, or it's someone who wants to leak without being identified.
Interesting

sxflyer 26th Nov 2013 20:57

Apart from the timing (end of the peak summer season) they are all quite plausible routes, but I guess that also cannot discount a fake entry by a dreamer ie picking a bunch of routes that aren't currently served

pamann 26th Nov 2013 21:02

Maybe an announcement is imminent . It would tie in nicely with the promised increase from EasyJet. I guess now we just have to sit back and wait.

wowzz 27th Nov 2013 13:02

If true it's strange that ALC is in the list, as the route has only recently been moved to SEN. Would load factors support flights from both SEN and STN?

sxflyer 27th Nov 2013 15:43

I think it's a slight misconception that ALC 'moved' to SEN, as SEN operated before STN ceased. I think it was more to do with EZY removing based units, and the casualties included routes where there was direct competition with FR.

Nowadays aside from the blossoming relationship with MAG EZY seem more up for the fight with FR. So if this is true, the inclusion of ALC doesn't surprise me, more the end of summer start.

NCL is an interesting inclusion to the list given that NCL-LGW is also being launched

NickBarnes 27th Nov 2013 16:49

All removed of the page now

FRatSTN 27th Nov 2013 17:04

Certain aspects of all this make it seem as if it could be true.

Needless to say the deal with MAG certainly helps to make this more likely to be true.

The choice of routes seem realistic on the whole (although I'd doubt Newcastle).

Funnily enough, the start dates seem convincing. EZY do not get any new aircraft until 2015 I believe. So after the peak July/August period, some bases may lose an aircraft or two allowing EZY to allocate them to Stansted from September.

Also, no EZY services are currently on sale after 14th September 2014 at all, so if true this could maybe be announced when flights after Sept 14 are released for sale.

Having said all this, my guess would be that somebody is just fooling around on Wikipedia and that none of this is true, although I'd love to be proven wrong. Almost seems too good to be true!

j636 27th Nov 2013 17:54

I smell a lot of bullsh*t with EZY growth at STN, those routes won't happen.

For a start they have left Helsinki and why would they open routes to places like Rome/Milan with FR already operate 3 or 4 daily flights.

It's Gatwick and Luton for the main business market and the likes of Southend for holiday flights.

Jack1985 27th Nov 2013 18:08

Since when has wikipedia carried any reliability? It's an open website which any moron can edit with fanciful ideas! :ugh:

racedo 27th Nov 2013 19:23


Since when has wikipedia carried any reliability? It's an open website which any moron can edit with fanciful ideas! :ugh:
Not really fair......................oh wait its accurate.

pamann 27th Nov 2013 20:19

In all honesty, who can say? Until it's in (official) black and white, we will just have to wait and see what the MAG/Easy promise brings. Who ever put it on there, it was a (generally) good choice of destinations and looked pretty plausible. Wiki is controlled by the public, so it's also worth bearing in mind that as easy as it is to apply changes to Wiki by adding content, one can also delete content just as easy too. For instance I could go on there now and cancel BA's LHR-JFK route as of XX/XX/13 and cause a whole load of conversation. Though I think less, if any would be inclined to believe it.

It's just a waiting game... How long a wait we will just have to wait and see.

NickBarnes 27th Nov 2013 20:47

Yes some fit well, but ones like Helsinki which easyjet pulled out off completely seems very unlikely they will go back again, so I feel that it's no true, but as said lets wait and see what happens


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