Great news! Every little helps!
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Wonder what theyll be flying.
I think they sold their last Electra to Buffalo |
Wonder what theyll be flying. So with Air Moldova and Atlantic Airways poached back, who's next on MAG's hit list? Aegean is back during peak season (Summer/Christmas). Maybe they'll relocate the LGW services to Stansted full time? Air Arabia Maroc, Air Baltic, Air Europa, Air Serbia, Meridiana? All possibilities perhaps? |
I'd like to hope Blue Air. They don't really bring much to Luton. I think they'd be more valued back at Stansted.
Wizz will operate up to 3 departures a day to Bucharest from Luton, hardly compares to Blue Air's 5 per week or whatever it is. Gatwick has to be the big focus for attracting airlines to switch airports. Possibly could be a number of other airlines there where a move to Stansted shouldn't be ruled out. |
Id say any operator of small jets into LGW is ripe to be taken thanks to the charges. Flybe have cut and run (Dash-8 and E jets), air Moldova (E jets) and Atlantic Airlines (Avro jet) have moved, so, is there anyone else?
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Fr at stn
You are not missing much with blue air horrible night flights and not even their planes sometimes. With Wizz increasing this could be possible but no way would Wizz ever move in the next 5 years to Stansted as more routes and frequencies are announced at Luton
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No one mentioned Wizz moving did they? (Not that old chestnut)
Boeing737-8 you have a lot to learn about the aviation business: Never say never :ok: |
I think they sold their last Electra to Buffalo |
Id say any operator of small jets into LGW is ripe to be taken thanks to the charges. Flybe have cut and run (Dash-8 and E jets), air Moldova (E jets) and Atlantic Airlines (Avro jet) have moved, so, is there anyone else? But they treasure their Gatwick route more than anything - though perhaps in a few years there might be a refocussing of London services to provide each airport with 3x daily, thus spreading the cost? |
Monarch!
Saw Monarch looking over the building work in the terminal at stansted yesterday and the operation around satellites...
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Seen by a lot of people wandering around with swissport management,this would certainly explain why swissport are investing in so much new equipment.
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Did you get Atlantic Airways muddled with Atlantic Airlines who are now part of West Atlantic? |
An interesting one but I'm not really sure what they bring to the table. Is this instead of LGW/LTN? In addition to them?
They would have FR to directly contend with on most of their core bucket and spade routes, most city routes are already covered which contrasts with the situation at LTN, and they don't really do long haul anymore. All it really leaves are a few Turkish and North African routes EZY/FR could do if they really wanted to. |
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I wouldn't get too excited about Atlantic, I seem to remember that their schedule was sketchy to say the least. Flights were scheduled but more often than not got cancelled or ran horrendously late. I've not heard the Saturday night transaero lately, is it still around ?
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Can't copy link as on phone but fr announce 12 routes for summer 14 and increased freq on other.
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New routes to Basel, Bordeaux, Brive, Bucharest, Comiso, Dortmund, Lisbon, Osijek, Podgorica, Prague, Rabat & Skelleftea
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I thought Bordeaux, Comiso, Dortmund, Lisbon and Rabat had already been announced some weeks/months ago... but I suppose things work differently in the Ryanair world...
Skelleftea is interesting - is it marketing support, or some other reason ? |
I think it means 12 new routes in total for Summer 2014 that didn't operate in Summer 2013.
I'm surprised they haven't added Minorca or another Greek airport such as Kalamata or Zante. They seem clear choices to me. I guess there's still time. |
I suppose they have to do something with extra 7 base aircraft next summer.
Next winter will be interesting as they say they will fly all 47 rather than parking 20. |
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Where did you hear that?
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BelleAir Albania went bust last night.
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I did hear though that Belavia might be moving north from LGW next year. I gather they use E-jets nowadays, so perhaps with the high charges there is something in this
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That'll do it
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EasyJet Expansion?
Loads of new routes have appeared on the Stansted Wiki page. Now I know it's not always fact is Wiki, but anyone know any truth in it?
Alicante - From 15 September 2014 Athens - From 22 September 2014 Belgrade - From 16 September 2014 Casablanca - From 17 September 2014 Gibraltar - From 16 September 2014 Helsinki - From 15 September 2014 Larnaca - From 17 September 2014 Milan Linate - From 15 September 2014 Newcastle - From 22 September 2014 Paris CDG - From 22 September 2014 Rome FCO - From 29 September 2014 Toulouse - From 15 September 2014 Vienna - From 24 September 2014 This is fantastic news if true! :ok: |
Loads of new routes have appeared on the Stansted Wiki page. Now I know it's not always fact is Wiki, but anyone know any truth in it? |
The entries on wikipedia were added by someone who was not logged in to wikipedia and gave only an IP address. The IP address is registered to an Internet provider based in the UK. Until today, the IP address in question had never made any other edits to wikipedia, so cannot assess them based on their past actions.
Either it's a wiki-vandal, or it's someone who wants to leak without being identified. |
Either it's a wiki-vandal, or it's someone who wants to leak without being identified. |
Apart from the timing (end of the peak summer season) they are all quite plausible routes, but I guess that also cannot discount a fake entry by a dreamer ie picking a bunch of routes that aren't currently served
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Maybe an announcement is imminent . It would tie in nicely with the promised increase from EasyJet. I guess now we just have to sit back and wait.
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If true it's strange that ALC is in the list, as the route has only recently been moved to SEN. Would load factors support flights from both SEN and STN?
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I think it's a slight misconception that ALC 'moved' to SEN, as SEN operated before STN ceased. I think it was more to do with EZY removing based units, and the casualties included routes where there was direct competition with FR.
Nowadays aside from the blossoming relationship with MAG EZY seem more up for the fight with FR. So if this is true, the inclusion of ALC doesn't surprise me, more the end of summer start. NCL is an interesting inclusion to the list given that NCL-LGW is also being launched |
All removed of the page now
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Certain aspects of all this make it seem as if it could be true.
Needless to say the deal with MAG certainly helps to make this more likely to be true. The choice of routes seem realistic on the whole (although I'd doubt Newcastle). Funnily enough, the start dates seem convincing. EZY do not get any new aircraft until 2015 I believe. So after the peak July/August period, some bases may lose an aircraft or two allowing EZY to allocate them to Stansted from September. Also, no EZY services are currently on sale after 14th September 2014 at all, so if true this could maybe be announced when flights after Sept 14 are released for sale. Having said all this, my guess would be that somebody is just fooling around on Wikipedia and that none of this is true, although I'd love to be proven wrong. Almost seems too good to be true! |
I smell a lot of bullsh*t with EZY growth at STN, those routes won't happen.
For a start they have left Helsinki and why would they open routes to places like Rome/Milan with FR already operate 3 or 4 daily flights. It's Gatwick and Luton for the main business market and the likes of Southend for holiday flights. |
Since when has wikipedia carried any reliability? It's an open website which any moron can edit with fanciful ideas! :ugh:
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Since when has wikipedia carried any reliability? It's an open website which any moron can edit with fanciful ideas! :ugh: |
In all honesty, who can say? Until it's in (official) black and white, we will just have to wait and see what the MAG/Easy promise brings. Who ever put it on there, it was a (generally) good choice of destinations and looked pretty plausible. Wiki is controlled by the public, so it's also worth bearing in mind that as easy as it is to apply changes to Wiki by adding content, one can also delete content just as easy too. For instance I could go on there now and cancel BA's LHR-JFK route as of XX/XX/13 and cause a whole load of conversation. Though I think less, if any would be inclined to believe it.
It's just a waiting game... How long a wait we will just have to wait and see. |
Yes some fit well, but ones like Helsinki which easyjet pulled out off completely seems very unlikely they will go back again, so I feel that it's no true, but as said lets wait and see what happens
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