WOW airlines
 

Saw this aircraft this afternoon at Stansted. Is it a regular new service as never seen it before?

Yes, it's new.
Take a good look, because I can't see Wow staying on this route for long...

WOW airlines
 

Simple example public choice. Think, I fancy going to Iceland, you will search the big names first. Easyjet have very good figures from Luton whereas WOW do not from Stansted. Nothing about LTN v STN. If EZY would have run it from STN (like Go did) it would be just as good.

You have missed out Iceland Express from STN in your 'big names first' list . Starts in a couple of weeks .

Iceland Express only bookable until August so is this a long term service or overflow from Gatwick?

pabely, how do you know wow don't have good figures from STN? I'm not doubting you, would just be interested to hear what figures you have.

Iceland Express is just at STN for the Icelandic peak season. I am however extremely nervous about their long term prospects - the high number of promotions they've been running lately with immediate departure dates says to me they need cash now.

Knowing the market well as a regular traveller, right now I'd put money on Wow being here for the 'longer' term.

sxflyer - only the word on the street but time will tell.

MAG lining up a bid for Stansted
 

Cheung Kong Close To Deal With Manchester Airport Group- Report | Fox Business


Hong Kong's Cheung Kong Infrastructure Holdings Ltd. (1038.HK), controlled by Asia's richest man, Li Ka-shing, is closing in on a deal to have a stake in a joint venture with Manchester Airports Group, the Sunday Times reported without citing sources.

If successful, this would be CKI's first foray into the airports sector. Its other transport investments include toll roads and bridges.

MAG owns U.K. airports in Manchester, East Midlands, Bournemouth and Humberside, and wants to raise up to GBP1 billion to fund a bid for Stansted airport, the report said.

It said MAG wants to set up a new joint venture with a new investor, though this is conditional on MAG making a successful bid for Stansted.

The Sunday Times said the joint-venture partner would get a 35% stake in the venture, comprising the assets of MAG and Stansted.

To sweeten the deal, the investor would also get 50% of the voting rights, the report said.

Australian infrastructure fund Industry Funds Management is also interested in the planned joint venture, the report said.

Spokespersons for MAG and CKI couldn't be immediately reached for comment.

Read more: Cheung Kong Close To Deal With Manchester Airport Group- Report | Fox Business

Ryanair to start Stansted-Maastricht (Netherlands) this December

Olympic traffic
 

Just noticed two un-usual movements due to STN today, one for olympic air from athens, (OA2260) and Tirana (LBY555 - already landed @ 08:15).

I would imagine that these are not regular movements, but charter flight's, associated with the olympics games in London?

Tirana has been a regular for the summer- twice daily on a Sunday for a couple of weeks.

Olympic traffic
 

You would be right. The US of A arrive today as well
:D

BAA back in court again re Stansted sale
 

The latest round of a battle over the sale of Stansted Airport took off at the Court of Appeal today.

Three judges in London are being asked to rule in a challenge brought by airport operator BAA.

In 2009 the Competition Commission (CC) ruled that BAA must sell Stansted in Essex and two of its other UK airports.

BAA has mounted a series of legal challenges against the decision, which have so far been unsuccessful.

The latest blow to Spanish-owned BAA came earlier this year when it lost an appeal before the Competition Appeal Tribunal.

Today’s action is before Lord Justice Mummery, Lord Justice Rimer and Lord Justice Sullivan.

Since the CC decision, BAA has sold Gatwick Airport in West Sussex and faced with having to dispose of either Edinburgh Airport or Glasgow Airport, it has opted to sell Edinburgh.

Lost again!!
 

BBC News - BAA loses latest appeal against Stansted sale

So now what??

Falcon666 ''So now What ? ''........get it on the market and get it sold !!!!

ericlday,
Agreed , but that just sounds way too easy!.
Are there any more options left for BAA to disrupt the inevitable?

It is about time that BAA realised that it is an unwanted, unloved and irrelevant outfit. IMHO the word customer is never mentioned in any sort of mangement meeting there. Monopoly exploitation is probably the only agenda item. That is why the Competition Commission and endless court rulings have gone against them.
I spent years negotiating with their senior managers trying to get a better deal for my airlines. The only boss there who ever listened was Sir John Egan and he was sceptical.
I cannot even begin to imagine why Ferrovial thought that buying BAA was a startegic investment. That they will have to take a masive loss is inevitable. But at the end of it STN will be a far better place and I personally expect that when RYR makes peace with the new owners they will base at least 40 more aircraft there. It would thus be likely to be the largest base of any short haul aircraft fleet in Europe.

BAA have indicated they intend to appeal to the supreme court

Supreme Court is I believe the final phase. After that there is nowhere left to go (apart from an episode of Homes under the Hammer perhaps!!)

London Stansted now serving over 150 destinations as Ryanair continues to grow network | anna.aero

Ask yourself: does STN really want or need another 40 Ryanair?? Whatever problems the place may have & whether you believe BAA are the cause or not, I can't see any new owner believing that more Ryanair is the solution!!

STN is a seriously underused airport with a huge potential but only in the so-called LCC sector. It can compete but only where price is a a major factor. The reason for that is that it is far to far from the main origin and destination points. 85% of all foreign visitors into LON (all airports) go to an address within 2 miles of Victoria/Padington stations. By afr the most important origination area is Westminster, Kensington, Chelsesa and down to the south west of there. STN simply does not rate for the premium traffic. But there is huge scope to develop traffic to European regions in exactly the way that RYR have been so successful. But the costs and poor customer service at Stansted (particularly the rude and offensive security staff, have you ever heard them say please?) make this very difficult. RYR also accounts for more than 70% of a STN traffic. Other airlines are cutting back services, particularly EZY and AB. I would think that RYR could easily expand rapidly there as long as they have a good relationship with the airport. This is impossible with BAA.

STN has so much potential,in the right hands of course.
The question is where else can Ryanair expand in the London area except for STN.
Too late for LGW? SEN maybe?
Both LGW and LTN have master plans awaiting approval.Both major Easy bases.
Should we ask if either of those airports actually want a larger Ryan presence!
Then there is the problem of attracting other airlines to STN given a Ryanair dominance.
I always thought Wizz might get attracted from LTN to STN by a new owner with a deal but the longer it goes on I think the more unlikely as LTN will probably have expanded to cope.
So another appeal,another year of uncertainty and the thought of another 40 a/c in blue.
Good luck to any potential future owner of STN.

Perhaps RYR might be the future owner? What a thought. They can certainly afford it. It might be easier than anyone else having to negotiate with them. Very seriously I cannot see that anyone will be able to but STN with confidence unless they have a deal with RYR. It puts that airline in a very strong position. No wonder BAA dont want to sell. They will get virtually nothing if they sell it. They will be sued for monopoly practices if they dont. Their main customer hates them. How can Colin Matthews sleep at night? Do we care?

Stansted was developed for political reasons when BAA was Government-owned. It is simply in the wrong place. Its UK connections are poor, other than to NE London (not a prime travel destination).
It can only ever be an 'overspill' airport when other London area airports fill up. That is the reason it is emptying fast at present - Gatwick has become more customer-friendly. Luton is nearer to key markets (Central London and M1 corridor). London City has its own niche and Southend is competing on price, but also has faster turn-rounds and shorter flight times to most destinations. All offer a better customer experience to both passenger and airline than STN.
Undoubtedly STN will win some traffic back when the economy improves, but even then it will need to work hard to attract airlines to a remote airport dominated by the lowest-cost and most aggressive competitor.
Perhaps FR will buy it - that's the only way the airport will stay on good terms with its dominant client!

If FR buy Stansted, do you think any other airline would want to stay at STN if they could possibly find slots elsewhere ?

I believe MAG have expressed an interest in buying STN. Keen to get a foothold in the London market place as I recall.

It might be worth noting that the other major disadvantage STN has against LTN & SEN is that it is regulated along with LHR & LGW. I hope we can accept that STN cannot seriously compete with LHR regardless of ownership - LHR being a hub airport. LGW is arguably a different catchment area from a European route perspective so many routes can happilly co-exist at both airports. Longer haul, well maybe a new owner might have some initiatives to attract more routes but I suspect it will take a financial upturn & some considerable time / effort before that comes to fruition.

ANY AIRLINE WISHING TO LEAVE STANSTED PLEASE SEND DETAILS TO SOUTHEND AIRPORT C/o EDDIE STOBART...........

European courts?

Not quite(ish)

The Supreme Court and Europe - The Supreme Court

I thought that SEN was too short for B738s to operate on, with decent loads to some places that help LoCos make money?

A380 to STN
 

there are rumours of the first visit of an A380 to Stansted on Tuesday Lunchtime.

Assuming that they are true, where will it park and who will do the handling?

The latest rumour is that is to be an A330 (China Southern).

G-APDK

A380 - Stansted
 

I have heard its A Qantas A380 and its due on the 18th Aug.

China Southern A380
 

China Southern Airways A380 flying in and out of Stansted
Arrival - 31st July 1400hrs
Departure – 06th August 2300hrs

A380 - STN
 

Thats a good question, who will handle it and have they got the suitable equipment to actually handle this aircraft ?

Has the handling companies got a pushback tug capable of moving this aircraft, cant see it sitting on a terminal stand for a week

A380
 

It’s all irrelevant now because China Southern have apparently downgraded to an A330

What about Qantas on the 18th Aug ?

"Has the handling companies got a pushback tug capable of moving this aircraft, cant see it sitting on a terminal stand for a week"

STN isn't the sole domain of harp adorned 737/8s and orange A319s.

One of these fully laden won't be much lighter than an A380
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2119796.jpg

Or there is always the Brazilian solution I saw at IGU - I'm sure there are some local farmers who would help out!

http://img296.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_507lo.jpg

China Southern
 

will now be operating an A330 on satellite one stand a13 tomorrow handled by swissport.The A380 would have parked on that stand too. Still a possibility of the A380 coming on the 6th for the return flight if the chinese government let them operate it at stansted.

Quantas
 

are operating 747-400s

Aaaaaaaagh :ugh::ugh::ugh:

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