FINALLY I CAN REVEAL A NEW DESTINATION FROM BHX with bmibaby !!!

For all those that guessed some months ago about the new route with bmibaby from bhx its is ABZ!!!

Some were close with INV and i think someone even mentioned dundee ???

There will be two daily flights, i presume one first thing and second one in early evening/afernoon commencing from 29 October 2006.

Regards

bmibabyfc

Heard it on local radio news.

:ok:

Can't see 3 airlines on the route, assuming Flybe launch in Spring07.

So will bmi B & Flybe force BA off the route.

Will this make it a BACON sandwich.

(Coat, leaves...:} )

Brit 76's
 

Just a thought on this one, it is a very rare occurrence that a 767-200 will be used by TOM on a longhaul route these days out of BHX (The last one I can remember is a one-off FLL flight last winter). The furthest they normall stretch is the Cyprus / Turkey routes in the couple of months that one is based in summer. None the less, when the 767-200 are sold off, where will the extra European route capacity come from?

Also remembering that the summer based 767-300 also does the ACE, PFO, PMI*2, IBZ, GRO, should we lose longhaul will these routes be downgraded to a smaller aircraft or are we likely to see more W pattern flights rather than BHX based aircraft?

C17's are fairly regular in Birmingham. They bring wounded British servicemen/women for treatment in one of the Cities hospitals. Vc10's & C130's are also occasional visitors.

FC

probably an airport or airfield!!!!LOL

Quite true, BHX has a runway length of 2605m while say Cardiff has a lengnth of 2392m and CWL has 3 weekly Orlando flights One to POP and one to CUN with TOM on 767-2/3er so i cant see the runway being a problem. They also are not the only long-haul CWL operators. XL, Mytravel, Zoom to canada so its obviously the landing fees.

On the suject of transatlantics
 

Continental is showing double daily from 1/6/07 rather than 10 a week as now.

I tried a few test bookings over June & July and both CO27 & CO33 offered everyday.

2007 is looking a little brighter added to the Monarch increase, Flybe
Aberdeen, Galway & Aberdeen plus the rumoured 2 extras Baby's (if true).

Just need to keep the TOM 763!

Pete

I believe the runway at CWL is flat, well it certainly looked it last time i was there, BHX has a great big slope in the middle. Going off 33 is fine, you get gravity to help with acceleration, going the other way when it's hot and the wind is only just strong enough to stop you taking 33 you can get a huge drop in payload which would mean any freight booked gets dumped straight away. Eventually the freight goes to other airports that can take it and revenue drops, the economics of the route become questionable, therefore the route gets moved 45 miles up the road. The only way to keep these flights is to lenghten the runway so they can take max payload in any weather.

August Pax
 

Another dismal month apparently, BBC local news saying 6.2% down.

Knights in shining armour required or more than likely, equally old and
probably not too shiny 733's (or 734's per some rumours) in the form
of a baby?


Pete

Security personnel at Birmingham Airport ordered a man to turn his t-shirt inside out because it bore a drawing of two crossed guns. As he waited to board the flight to Newark, New Jersey, guards told Staffordshire design engineer Dave Osbourne the graphic represented a security risk

Actually, R/W15 is quite obstacle limited, that being the primary reason for the lower payload we can lift compare to a R/W33 departure. There are many large trees within the climb out area (other side of the A45) which cause problems to the single engine climb consideration. The airport is actively trying to sort this issue, but it should have been done years ago. I'm sure it won't be a quick resolution, as I believe most are under preservation orders.......

BIA could offer commercial incentives to it's use compare to NEMA, but chooses not to do so. NEMA on the other hand is very active commercially with operators. That includes existing ones, not just new start ups. If they want our long haul business, it's really up to them to go out and get it. BIA do nothing on this front, they seem to think the name 'Birmingham' will sell itself. Their danger is even with a longer R/W (still years away!), then it will only bring them on par with NEMA. Fees are cheaper there, and at that point having successfully, and hapily, run our long haul from there for many seasons, why should we move it to BHX? :ugh:

I think, sadly, BHX has a good few more years being left further and further behind in the doldrums. Having operated from here for the vast majority of my 23 year flying career to date, it's sad and dissapointing to see.:(

Just noticed this on the BHX website:

Departure BE 8146 to Birmingham 16:00

Arrival BE 8146 from Birmingham 16:45 expected 17:38

Would this be their new 195 doing some kind of special flight?

Be8146
 

EasyPilot

I have not seen any reports that the 195 has been in today. The only
thing of note was a Jet 738W on delivery from Boeing Field
en route to India. The 195 was definitely in yesterday early evening but I am not sure if it N/S etc.

The flight number is similar to the one that undertook "the fear of flying
course" a few months ago.

Just a guess though

Pete

Of course, I forgot about the fear of flying courses.

Thanks Pete :ok:

Fear of flying course
 

EasyPilot

Yes just used a well known search engine, found a fear of flying course
today at BHX connected to a well known airline.

Mind you the comedians on this forum, could have a field day with such
phrases as "fear of flying" and "the 146" ;) all assuming it was a 146 and not a Dash 8:bored: .

Only joking, I have my first Dash 8 flight soon :ooh:, mind you I will
pleased if I have been on my last 146/RJ100 - never did take to them.

Pete

BEE8146 was indeed a 146, a 300srs if I remember correctly

The E195 on Saturday arrived from Glasgow & departed to Exeter around an hour later

Fried Chicken

Did anyone notice the other brand new a/c type at BHX on saturday afternoon apart from the smart EMB195?

Lufty flew in their new CRJ900! :ok:

that and the brand new Jet Airways 737 800 delivery flight from Seattle to India it was a week for spotters out there.

BMI Baby
 

Just the three extra aircraft for BHX then!

One in Jan and two for Summer 07

Routes to be announced shortly.

Just Glad BHX management have taken the pax decrease seriously
and somebody has taken up the challenge.

can baby smell the Bacon?

On another forum it mentioned baby as the wounded animal after
pulling out of DTV. Wrong airline surely?

Pete

Any rumors about possible new routes?

All the latest on the new BHX routes direct from the bmibaby website today.They seem to be up for the expansion and more jobs at least!!
MR120:ok:
Release date : 2006-09-19
bmibaby announces further expansion at Birmingham International Airport
60% year on year growth in capacity at Birmingham
Three additional Aircraft based at the airport taking total to Eight
Many new destinations and increases in weekly flights expected
Airline consolidates position as number one carrier in the Midlands
More local jobs created
bmibaby, the award winning airline with tiny fares has today (Tuesday 19th September 2006) announced a significant expansion programme at Birmingham International Airport starting in January 2007. Capacity will increase by 60% year on year with the addition of three Boeing 737 aircraft taking the total number of bmibaby aircraft based at Birmingham International Airport to eight.
The expansion consolidates bmibaby’s position as the largest carrier at Birmingham and the largest carrier in the Midlands region. bmibaby is expected to be announcing several new destinations and an increase in frequency on some existing routes. Fares will continue to start from just £13.99 one way including taxes and charges.
bmibaby managing director, Crawford Rix, said:
“I am pleased to announce phase one of bmibaby’s rapid expansion programme at Birmingham International Airport starting in January 2007. We will be increasing our capacity by a massive 60% year on year as we increase the number of Boeing 737 operating from the airport to eight.
We will be introducing a number of exciting new destinations to compliment the thirteen European destinations that bmibaby currently serves from Birmingham International Airport. The new destinations have not been finalised as we are still in the process of compiling a short list of European destinations that offer the market potential and infrastructure to cope with the significant injection of passenger volumes that bmibaby will drive. The plan is to conclude discussions with short listed airport destinations over the next few weeks.
Fares will continue to be aggressively priced, starting from just £13.99 one way, including taxes and charges.
bmibaby remains the largest carrier in the Midlands and we have more exciting growth developments planned over the next 12 months as we consolidate and build on our number one position”
The addition of the new aircraft will create over 100 jobs directly with bmibaby and hundreds more are expected to be created in and around the region as a direct response to the increases in services.
bmibaby will be introducing one aircraft for January 2007 with the additional two aircraft arriving in time for the start of the summer season.
bmibaby only started operations at Birmingham in January 2005 but has grown rapidly to become the major carrier at the airport. The airline also flies to Alicante, Amsterdam, Belfast International, Bordeaux, Cork, Edinburgh, Knock, Nice, Malaga, Palma and Prague from Birmingham International and is the only major low cost carrier to allow free travel for infants (under 2 years of age) on board all its flights
Earlier this month the airline launched another new double daily service from Birmingham International to Aberdeen which commences flying on the 29th October 2006. Bookings are already ahead of expectation and can be made online now at bmibaby.com.