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The NWI departure and arrival times should prove really popular with the punters ... not. For the majority of these there will be no public transport available to get to/from the airport so either drive or taxi's and/or airport hotels or Stansted or Luton or Southend.
ABZ punters get all the sociable flight schedules whilst NWI punters get the cr@p! |
Certainly not the most convenient timings, but I think relatively few people use public transport when flying from NWI whatever the time of day. There isn't even a local bus which actually goes into the airport.
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At least it will be a cr@p time from somewhere nearby, rather than a cr@p time miles away...
Also, after the the lack of public transport whinge how long before drop off charges are mentioned ("you only get 10 minutes for free and then its a pound for 30 minutes!") |
That's better than at some places I could mention.
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The drop off parking charges at Norwich are quite reasonable...
0 to 10 mins - free. Up to 30 mins - £1. Up to 60 mins - £3 Compared to say Stansted... 0 to 10 mins - £2 Up to 15 mins - £3 Over 15 mins - £50 penalty! |
Doesn't Stansted have a railway 6 days per week and National Express 24/7?
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Rail and buses are not much use for an 05:30 check-in. In my experience at least.
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National Express are not "buses"?
0530 Check-In? ... There was a clue in my post ... "24/7" |
Fair enough, if you don't mind a 3 hour coach trip starting a little after midnight ;) Anyways, sorry for dragging the thread off topic, moving on...
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Does anybody know when Thomson assign aircraft for 2014 season as they haven't yet and was wanting to book a flight from NWI - PMI next year, but if the timing changes because they can't find a plane to base their that would be no good. Any help would be great thankyou
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easyjet at nwi
Their is news at the airport that next year Easyjet will be based with flights to many destinations, not sure on the number to be based but more than 2 would require more concrete.regardsStuart
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Seems unlikely with their presence at STN and SEN, plus their recent commitment to expand at the former.
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I see KLM are now charging £12.00 per bag for hold luggage to AMS.
Yet another reason to use Stansted. |
I have complied a list of load factors for norwich's domestic and international routes for may 2013, most routes seem fairly well supported with loads heading towards 70% the 2 stand out ones are Tenerife which seems to be nearly full which is why this operates all year now, also the poor loads on the Isle of Man is a surprise hope it picks up during the summer.
Manchester 21 pax average per flight Load factor 66% Guernsey 20 pax average per flight Load factor 66% Jersey 46 pax average per flight Load factor 64% Isle of Man 15 pax average per flight Load factor 41% Tenerife 172 pax average per flight Load factor 95% Amsterdam 56 pax average per flight Load factor 70% Edinburgh (April 2013) 40 pax average per flight Load factor 56% i have not been able to include Aberdeen as 2 airlines operate the route but pax figures are over 5500 for that route, also I have not included alot of charter flights as they only start part way through may |
Norwich's routes for summer 2014
Loganair Manchester 3x daily weekdays plus Sunday service too Guernsey every Sunday Flybe Edinburgh 123457 Newquay - Saturday Jersey - Saturday KLM Amsterdam 4x daily Thomson (Norwich based aircraft) Dalaman - Mon Palma Mallorca - 3x weekly Tues, Thur, Sat Ibiza - Wed Enfidha - Thur Corfu - Fri Tenerife - Sun Malta - Tue (Air Malta) Thomas cook Palma Mallorca - Tue Enfidha - Fri Dalaman - Fri Balkan Holidays Bulgaria - Sun Eastern Airways + BMI regional 28 departures a week to Aberdeen Plus Madeira 5 departures through the summer |
So the apart from the loss of Isle of Man and the first time for Thomson to base an aircraft for the summer at the airport (operater still unknown) its business as usuall, no new routes which is a real shame, but until something changes with the ADF etc it will probably stay like this as I doubt new operators will risk it at the moment
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Looks like Thomson Holidays will be using Germania as a based aircraft for next summer , using an A319 or 737 700 aircraft both hold around 148 pax and it will be doing a W pattern up to Aberdeen on some days
Flight schedule has already been posted previously |
Having a look at the caa stats for October and all routes see little change in terms of pax from last year which is good altough Edinburgh is down to averaging 42 pax a flight, but the stand out route is the weekly Tenerife service, with average loads of 172 pax per flight on a 180 seat aircraft means load factors of 95.5%! Which is brilliant so no wonder thomson now operate it year round. but makes me wonder if any other sunshine routes could operate year round as with Stansted having TFS doesn't seem to affect Norwich what so ever
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Norwich has lost it's summer service to Newquay due to the flybe cuts, altough loads were always quite good.
Hopefully Loganair might step in, but who knows in these current times |
Don't know if this has already been mentioned but it seems Germania will be operating Thomson's services at Norwich for S14. The aircraft will be based at the airport. I wonder if by 2015 Thomson could base one of their own planes at Norwich??
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hopefully they will the following year, Norwich has seen steady growth for them which probably surprises people with the £10 charge etc but this year flights had great loads and were almost full most times, Tenerife continues to perform well winter and summer, and they now have Palma 3x a week for next year, so depending on aircraft availability and how having a based aircraft at the airport works next year hopefully the airport will get a TOM based aircraft and crew in 2015
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I wonder if by 2015 Thomson could base one of their own planes at Norwich?? depending on aircraft availability and how having a based aircraft at the airport works next year hopefully the airport will get a TOM based aircraft and crew in 2015 Why would TOM invest money in establishing a base at an airport with a small catchment area when they can easily sub-charter from elsewhere? It's far more likely that TOM will reduce their smaller bases than add more fragmentation to their business model. They are in a competitive, and some may say declining market that just doesn't need more overheads. |
Only 2 fixed wing flights today?
Is there something wrong with the departures board ? It only shows 2 fixed wing flights today? Looks like the last fixed wing departure was 0945 and the next arrival is 2100.
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I think the online departure boards have gone faulty (again). On a winter Saturday there should normally be 3x Amsterdam and 1x Aberdeen.
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Or holiday season schedule cutbacks?
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I 've done NWI - MAN return with fly be once or twice a month for the last three years for work and think its a great route: the flights are 80-100% full.
They dropped down from the Dash 8 to the Suckling Dornier 328 about 18 months ago It's a great little a/c and I've landed in 30kts gusting40 right across the chute in a mean wing down landing. Almost on first name terms with hosties(hi Emma) hope she won't be one of the 500 redundancies. Norwich is struggling however but they are trying: Vodafone reception is now better and free wifi in departure lounge. The food is rubbish however very little uptake so by late pm when I fly the hot stuff has been cremated. I live in Suffolk and fly be beats rail travel or driving hands down with less than half the travel time. Norwich have sadly priced themselves out go the GA market and the imposition of class D on slender grounds was the last straw for many. Re departures board: not all CAT is registered for example BMI flew the Fulham footie team in yesterday for today's Norwich game and no one (not even info desk) knew about it. I fly a light aeroplane in E Anglia and I no longer go near Norwich, preferring Cambridge which is cheaper for practice instrument stuff. |
hope she won't be one of the 500 redundancies |
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Fulham football club must have money to burn......cant be more than 2/12 hours by coach
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Practically all Premier Leauge clubs prefer to fly - Man U being an exception for obvious reasons - private flight, security, convenience, etc. You only have to look at the fixtures and then tie that up with the airports close by. Arsenal flew from Luton to Norwich last season - flying time 13 minutes I think. Also some lower league clubs - QPR, Blackpool, Preston - also fly occassionally as do some ruby union clubs - i.e. Exeter, Saracens.
Before the environmentalists have a go how about this one - bought some frozen Raspberries in Morrisons in Gibraltar over Christmas- packed in Serbia! looks like they travelled half way round Europe. |
Re departures board: not all CAT is registered for example BMI flew the Fulham footie team in yesterday for today's Norwich game and no one (not even info desk) knew about it. |
Air Anglia used to operate (Navajo's?) and then I think Air UK used Banderainte's?
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Air Anglia used to operate (Navajo's?) and then I think Air UK used Banderainte's? P.S. Yes, it was Air Anglia PA31's, we looked after them from Eastern Radar at Watton. |
Holidaymakers boost Norwich airport traffic - Business - Norwich Evening News
Good news Norwich has seen an increase in Passengers after many years of decline Just up to November passengers were up to 462,248 (does not include December) - compared to 396,676 for the whole of 2012. So will probably mean once December comes in an additional 90k-100k passengers on last year. Alltough compared to most airports in the UK this isn't really that amazing, but after seeing year after year since 2007, flight cuts and route reductions along with passenger numbers dropping from the dizzy heights of 745,000 in 2006 this is really good to see at last :ok: |
Norwich really is a sleepy airport
The departure board can't be broken 2 weeks in a row. To me it appears that there are only the 3 KLM rotations a day on Saturday and the same Sunday until 4pm when there are 4 other flights. In terms of day time flights when there could be perceived to be some risk from conflict with other airspace users Norwich have only 2 or 3 rotations in the whole weekend. I can't see why so much airspace is needed.
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Norwich airport charges departing passengers a fee of £10 an adult to pass through their miserable little facility. Last year 462,248 passengers, the greater proportion of whom might presumably be grown ups, passed through the airport. That must represent a significant income for someone? Yet another year now goes by and the abysmal passenger facilities at EGSH continue to disgust. The combination of Nissan hut style ablutions, sludge serving self service cafeterias and what passes for an Executive Lounge serve only to remind one that this airport is a place that needs an excuse to be used as a travel jump off point. That justification is provided by KLM which runs its multiple shuttle services to EHAM, civilisation and onward connections.
The above paragraph will suffice for departing passengers. Those arriving at Norwich International receive similar treatment to John Le Carre's spy in the cold. The snaky line, the pill box passport control, redolent of something from a WWII black and white move. Then the baggage hall with its exquisite toilet facilities which serve only to remind one how fortunate was the purchase of a bottle of spray scent at duty free. Baggage trolleys that have humped better bags by far and a chicane to the arrival hall exit, worthy of a wobbly wheel children's television programme. Norwich likes to boast that it is a fine city and that maybe so but as airports go Norwich airport should. |
...but apart from that? :}
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Thomson will be putting on one of their 757 for next winter to Tenerife instead of the current 737 used:ok:
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Thomson 2015 schedule see's a new route to Mahon 1x weekly plus Dalaman increasing to 2x weekly. Will also have based aircraft for summer 2015 like this year, believed to be Germania again:ok:
Times are as follows Mon Norwich - Dalaman 7:00 - 12:45 Dalaman - Norwich 13:50 - 15:50 Tue Norwich - Palma 07:50 - 11:15 (performs w pattern to humberside airport) Palma - Norwich 20:10 - 21:50 Plus Malta - Norwich 17:10 - 19:30 Norwich - Malta 20:20 - 00:40 Wed Norwich - Ibiza 06:50 - 10:30 Ibiza - Norwich 11:30 - 13:10 Norwich - Enfidha 14:40 - 17:40 Enfidha - Norwich 18:40 - 21:40 Thur Norwich - Dalaman 08:00 - 13:45 Dalaman - Norwich 14:45 - 16:45 Fri Norwich - Palma 06:00 - 09:25 Palma - Norwich 10:25 - 12:05 Norwich - Corfu 13:35 - 18:35 Corfu - Norwich 19:35 - 20:45 Sat Norwich - Palma 06:20 - 09:45 Palma - Norwich 10:45 - 12:25 Norwich - Mahon 13:55 - 17:20 Mahon - Norwich 18:20 - 19:45 Sun Norwich - Tenerife South 09:00 - 13:25 Tenerife South - Norwich 14:25 - 18:35 |
Norwich airport sold to Rigby Group
Norwich today has been sold to the Rigby group.
Here's a link Norwich airport sold by Omniport to regional airport owner Rigby Group - News - Norwich Evening News - Mobile |
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