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jerboy 16th Jan 2007 22:50

five zero by ortac

LHR is quicker than LGW to the city center (Jersey's main business link), many people also take the bus from LGW to LHR to connect on from there, surely providing a direct service would serve these people better??

LHR may not be the prettiest airport on the planet, but it is what the majority of people want and I'm sure with the correct advertising, marketing and fares the route would make a very tidy profit as LGW does now.

Trihandle 17th Jan 2007 13:51


Originally Posted by GBALU53 (Post 3066341)
FPO1127 Feb 17 JER-0750-ZRH B733
FPO1127 Feb 17 JER-1235-GVA B733
These flight returnng a week later
:

Seems that Coconut7 dont know what aircraft will be doing this flight as
their website now states that this flight will be done by a Canadair CRJ on the outwards leg and a Saab 2000 on the return.:ugh:
Also has a Zurich-Jersey on 31st Dec 2007 again Saab 2000

pilot999 17th Jan 2007 16:05

who has voted for :"LHR may not be the prettiest airport on the planet, but it is what the majority of people want and I'm sure with the correct advertising, marketing and fares the route would make a very tidy profit "


Who are the vast majority??? long haul pax, how come no one is doing it already??

bluerumour 17th Jan 2007 19:02

Well if current rumours are anything to go by, BlueIslands are due to commence a ZRH flight, albeit via GCI. However going via GCI is still better than going via LGW etc....

Why rumourswhy not facts, that would make everyone happy:)

Hangar_9 17th Jan 2007 21:07

I agree. It keeps us happy if we only hear the good things.:)

GBALU53 18th Jan 2007 03:48

Are there any good things.

its about time the men in there pin stripes woke up and come out with some really good and forward thinking news and not pie in the clods or is the sky.

Lost one passenger schedule this week the Stansted

Lost another movement with the mail as well, due to papers and mail are on the one aircraft instead of two whats around the corner.

All very well the men in the states saying about getting routes from here there and every where what about keeping what little there is at the moment.

J-Guy 18th Jan 2007 11:36

Just a slight update on the usual summer Saturday charters;

Obviously there is a bit of change for the summer because of the loss of BA Citiexpress on a number of charter routes. Edinburgh and Glasgow, previously operated by the ERJ 145, have been dropped and now operate through Flybe.

*Aberdeen, Belfast Int., Dundee, Humberside, Leeds Bradford and Manchester will be operated by VLM. To operate these routes, one aircraft will come down from Manchester, two from Rotterdam, and one from London City.

*Air Southwest will fly Leeds Bradford and Stansted.

Whilst there may be a few other changes, i.e. there is no news on Blackpool yet, this seems to make up the core of the summer charters. Interesting to note that Leeds receives an extra Saturday flight.

GBALU53 19th Jan 2007 15:06

Overtaken
 
Guernsey is moving up in the world of aviation and Jersey is going backwards.

New routes to start in the news to day by the boys with a blue hangar hopefully with start dates and aircraft types.

Good for Guernsey Jersey losing routes and still not news on the Heathrow although the big gun ha ha had talks a Donington hall a cpouple days ago this could be another non starter.

Could be a big summer of dissapointment for Jersey if the States cant get a good act together.

There seems to be lots of talk and no action or very little the lateest is there tourism advert which is aimed at short stay who want to go to Jersey with gale force fog low cloud and only the pub and resteraunts to go to.

JERSEY WAKE UP OR BE LEFT BEHIND.

J-Guy 19th Jan 2007 19:15


Originally Posted by GBALU53 (Post 3077979)
Guernsey is moving up in the world of aviation and Jersey is going backwards.

But the strategy that Jersey has adopted is to be achieved over a number of years and has only been in existence since late last year. It seems premature to suggest that Jersey authorities are failing. ‘Action’ includes diversifying commercial activity at the airport, improving passenger facilities and changing the pricing structure. These won’t produce immediate results but long term they make the airport more economically viable and less dependent on airport charges as a source of revenue, which is beneficial to airlines.

Acquiring new routes is difficult, the population of Jersey and its limited demand means we must be realistic about what the airport can achieve, however, there have been numerous successes already and I have every confidence that Jersey Airport, along with Economic Development, are working towards expansion of destinations.

Guernsey is fortunate that it has a committed airline in Blue Islands. Considering the interest that Blue Islands has in serving the Channel Islands and how vocal Jersey authorities have been in their attempts to gain European connections, there will be prospects here for Jersey, I am sure.

GCIJ32 19th Jan 2007 20:03

J-Guy

With BlueIslands having their operations base and the managing director based in Jersey should mean that there are possibilities with Jersey having access to the new Guernsey routes.

Nice to see that Guernsey is getting the new routes though, Jersey may have very few continental routes its domestic network of routes exceeds Guernseys by probably 60-70% with all the Thomsonfly, BmiBaby, BA and BMI flights that Guernsey doesnt have. Guernsey only has three airlines, Flybe, Aurigny and BlueIslands with the last two being relatively unheard of in the UK

GBALU53 19th Jan 2007 21:42

Well GCIJ32

Some of what you say is correct but where is the money comming froif if m not mistaken Guernsey

Where does Mr C live and what else is envolved in this company may be a health tablet or two.??

GLIDERMAN 20th Jan 2007 08:30

Jersey, Stansted
 
I am not supprised at the loss of Jersey Stansted, it was not the best advertised of routes. I need to travel to Jersey fairly often, live one hours drive from stansted, & only found out about the route by accident!

GBALU53 20th Jan 2007 08:48

Correct
 
Gliderman

You are correct that seem a barrier that was talked about within the company that they need to go out and advertise.

In Jersey it is easy to advertise cheap it is called word of mouth.

With an area of forty five square miles it doesn,t take long to get around.

In the U.K. it is differant big wide open space so you have to go out and spend on adertising as you quoted you only came accross by accident.

A large amout of the travelling public are not geograpically orianted where the nearest airport might be to where they would like to end up.

If you booked with a travel agent they might be able to read a map and find the nearest one but with the internet now and more and more people are booking this way the nearest airport might not be the one they are leaving from as they don,t know it is even there.

We can only hope in the not to distant there might be someone out there that will bring it back from the ashes.

From some of the talk going around the load figures were stating to look healthy so it does take time to build up a route and possible to lose money before you can reap the benefits it all depends on how long.:ok:

GBALU53 22nd Jan 2007 15:30

Heathrow Route
 
Heard earlier the route is on.

akerosid 24th Jan 2007 20:27

That Friday feeling ...
 
Friday will see the big announcement. :D :ok:

After six long years of that &*^%$%£!! :mad: coach (which gets less comfortable, less efficient and of course, more expensive, every time), we're going to be getting our link back. Flights are expected to start on the 26th March.

I've heard varying reports as to the frequency, with one report saying it's just an overnight and another, 3 daily, but whatever it is, it's welcome. Let's just hope it's back to stay ...

Capt. J. Upgrade 25th Jan 2007 09:44

LHR to LON vs LCY to LON
 

Originally Posted by jerboy (Post 3072633)
five zero by ortac

LHR is quicker than LGW to the city center (Jersey's main business link),

I'm sorry, but purely on a distance thing and depending on where you're going in London, LCY can be just as good if not better to get into the business heart of our gloreous capital!! :ok:

Capt. J. Upgrade 25th Jan 2007 09:47

Atlantic Express
 

Originally Posted by GLIDERMAN (Post 3079359)
I am not supprised at the loss of Jersey Stansted, it was not the best advertised of routes. I need to travel to Jersey fairly often, live one hours drive from stansted, & only found out about the route by accident!

I'm supprised you didn't think they were well advertised. Plenty of advertising was performed in Jersey, and I'm lead to believe that several UK papers had adverts, one of them being the Evening Standard (I think!)

:ok:

J-Guy 25th Jan 2007 13:08

Officially announced in the island's media...

The deal is to be signed tomorrow between Jersey Airport and bmi for the Heathrow route. There will be twice daily flights apparently, with services beginning at the end of March. The route will be reviewed after three years.

Absolutely fantastic news!

Hudson Bay 25th Jan 2007 13:44

Great news for Jersey after all these years. Well done to all those that made the route possible.

GBALU53 25th Jan 2007 16:36

Signing
 
The deal to be signed with BMI tomorrow

It looks like Flybe might object in some ways, the States weren,t prepared to help them when they were trying to put the Paris service together with Guernsey.

So what deal has BMI done to secure a Heathrow service for which Flybe could not do for a Paris service.

There are rumours going around at the moment about the Aurigny Jersey-Guernsey-Jersey route might be terminated, if thats the case Blueislands would have done a fine job in removing them after so many years we will have to wait and hear more on this one though.


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