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NEastMidlands 10th Jun 2006 15:40

Its a 767-300 doesnt it have 315 seats in two classes, Cattle class and slightly better cattle class

bob marley 12th Jun 2006 10:28

just arrived back from puerto plata on the 10th, 312 pax on board, and as for comfort pretty good for a britannia/thomson aircraft

bycrewlgw 12th Jun 2006 11:04

Yes the flights from Doncater are on a premium configured aircraft (315 seats). Only G-OBYJ, G-OBYI, G-OBYD are premium all others are non-premium with 328 Y seats!

BYCREWLGW

WOWBOY 22nd Jun 2006 16:42

Flybe look set to be the next airline to launch flights from DSA, the following is listed under their timetable section:

Doncaster - Belfast City

BE264 10:45 - 11:45 - M-Fr
BE264 11:25 - 12:25 - Sa
BE266 17:20 - 18:20 - M-Fr,Su

Belfast City - Doncaster

BE263 09:20 - 10:20 - M-Fr
BE263 10:00 - 11:00 - Sa
BE265 15:55 - 16:55 - M-Fr,Su

sam dilly 23rd Jun 2006 07:00

747 first flight ?
 
Rumour has it that a Corsair 747 555y + 24c (400?) is operating
a DSA/LDE Thursday 29 June arr 09.00 dep 11.00,
does anybody have more info ? is it full ? etc.
This will be interesting !

airhumberside 23rd Jun 2006 09:10

Its a charter for the local Roman Catholics and is instead of using two A320's as they did last year, although apparently two A320's may be used on the return leg

LBIA 23rd Jun 2006 11:04

Hi

The rumored Doncaster/Sheffield - Belfast City flights have been taken out off the on-line timetable on the flybe website. There are no longer showing.

Anyone know whats happening??? Will it Happen.

gary4444 23rd Jun 2006 11:07

Yes it will happen, notice Belfast, Norwich, Exeter and Birmingham has dropped off the list totally.....

Looks like its being worked on!

WOWBOY 23rd Jun 2006 16:01

Well on flybe homepage there is a flash that titles MORE NEW ROUTE this list's Belfast City to Doncaster!

WOWBOY 26th Jun 2006 11:38

The flybe Doncaster -> Belfast City route has now been uploaded onto their booking system!

Donacster has also appeared on the route map, and the offers promotion under Belfast City.

The only thing left is an official announcement!


Doncaster Sheffield's Official website has an article stating: First ever Domestic service and new airline from Doncaster.

sam dilly 29th Jun 2006 10:58

747 at DSA TODAY
 
What a fantastic sight.
Is a shame that Thomsonfly dont use this aircraft.
All at DSA must be really pleased that all went so well
today.Lets hope we see 747s regularly.:)

LBIA 6th Jul 2006 11:40

Is there any reason why the Thomsonfly Flight from Faro (ETA 17:30 TOM3574) is diverting to Leeds this afternoon??

Currently this flight is showing on the LBA live arrivals due in at 17:30 along with are normal based B757 flight which is due in at 2105 as the TOM5634 from Palma.

SeamusCVT 6th Jul 2006 12:47

LBIA, Thomsonfly have subbed in a Jet2 aircraft to operate the route. They managed to position it to DSA to fly the outbound as normal, however, Jet2 require the aircraft at LBA to operate an evening rotation, hence the return is to LBA with pax then coached to DSA.
I hope this is of some assistance.

RobT100 6th Jul 2006 13:06

SeamusCVT

thats excellent - perhaps they will choose LBA next time

Nice for DSA to have a slip up, especially with TOM :p

SeamusCVT 6th Jul 2006 14:35

Have heard that TOM are facing delays with the delivery of one or two of their new 737-300s hence the sub-ins, can anyone confirm or deny this?

gary4444 6th Jul 2006 17:45


Originally Posted by RobT100
SeamusCVT
thats excellent - perhaps they will choose LBA next time
Nice for DSA to have a slip up, especially with TOM :p

All I can say is thanks for all of the Flybe fog diversions we get from LBA, it must have done the trick.

Maybe Air Southwest will take note from their visits......

14 loop 6th Jul 2006 19:55

As an LBA follower/supporter I'd like to distance myself from RobT100's comments...no need for L vs D arguements. However [gary4444], I'm interested to know how many BEE flights have diverted to DSA from LBA? Have there really been many?...Honestly I don't know, give us a clue.

RobT100 6th Jul 2006 20:46

14 loop

There is every need for DSA vs Leeds comments. Admitted LBA aint exactly MAN but it should be. DSA is a threat to LBA (although you would hardly think so by the start they have made) and I will treat it as the enemy because of this.

Thank you

gary4444 6th Jul 2006 21:50

There is no need for any LBA vs. DSA comments unless you are insecure about something. Forget about DSA if the start its had hasn't affected your guardedness for LBA. But to say LBA should be like MAN is ludicrous and shows how in touch you are.

14 loop, there have been a good half dozen Flybe diverts due to fog, and two Air Southwests plus others.

Leodis 6th Jul 2006 22:21

Gary4444

A good half dozen? Please back your claim with stats? I know of none while I have been on shift:hmm:

gary4444 6th Jul 2006 22:41

Off the top of my head

30/12/06 G-JEDW
22/01/06 both G-JEDT and G-JECH

RobT100 6th Jul 2006 22:42


Originally Posted by gary4444
There is no need for any LBA vs. DSA comments unless you are insecure about something. Forget about DSA if the start its had hasn't affected your guardedness for LBA. But to say LBA should be like MAN is ludicrous and shows how in touch you are.
14 loop, there have been a good half dozen Flybe diverts due to fog, and two Air Southwests plus others.

Gary4444 dont talk like a plank - I didnt mean LBA should be like MAN in that context - I was simply referring to the catchment area and major area that west yorks has become. Trust me, I am very "in touch".
Quote your FlyBe diverts till the cows come home pal, i couldnt give a stuff about it. By the way, I already admitted that i am insecure about the DSA - LBA situation so stop trying to rub salt in.

scamptonboy 7th Jul 2006 04:59

To the above dsa-lba argument,

Why oh why are we getting into a heated debate about these two airports.

As a Leeds lad my loyalties lie with LBA, but surely as a region i.e Yorkshire in its entirety we should be proud of the airports we have?

To dispel any further arguments: Official CAA diversion figures from when DSA opened to commercial traffic in April 2005 ar as follows.

DSA - LBA 0: Unless you count yesterdays Jet2 Ops for Thomson
LBA - DSA 3: 1 A/C x 30/12/05 & 2 x A/C 22/01/06

PPRuNe Pop 7th Jul 2006 05:40

Whoa! Cool it guys. Slagging and sniping is once again getting the better of good debate and sense. Keep it going and you will have deletes and/or banning getting the better of 'YOU.'

gary4444 7th Jul 2006 07:22


Originally Posted by RobT100
Gary4444 dont talk like a plank - I didnt mean LBA should be like MAN in that context - I was simply referring to the catchment area and major area that west yorks has become. Trust me, I am very "in touch".
Quote your FlyBe diverts till the cows come home pal, i couldnt give a stuff about it. By the way, I already admitted that i am insecure about the DSA - LBA situation so stop trying to rub salt in.

I'm not the one who came onto the DSA thread and started slagging the airport and people personally off, do you see me do this on the Leeds thread? If you don't like the airport fair enough stay away from the thread, but your attitude is diabolical towards people you don't know, show the respect you would expect in return as a poster.

As far as I'm concerned there is room for all regional airports, but some people take this a bit too personally.

Leodis asked for figures about Flybe, so keep your nose out.

I never rubbed salt in about "LBA vs. DSA" again thats all of your doing.

niknak 8th Jul 2006 00:22

Before this degenerates into an unregal willy waving contest, remember that Peel have taken a huge, but calculated risk in developing DSA, pumping millions of their own cash and a lot of Government and EEC development grants, into the place.
Equally, LBA has had an enormous sum spent on developing the airport, initially with ratepayers cash and over the last 20 years or so, private equity and a lot of luck (like finding a commercially viable coal seam when excavating for the main apron).

Either way, both DSA and LBA are still run by British companies who have spent/risked a lot of their own money in ventures that don't necessarily provide a guaranteed return, even in the best of economic conditions.

They both have provided employment for large numbers of local people and new trade for local businesses, they've also provided career opportunities that otherwise would not have seen the light of day in previously economically depressed areas.

Good luck to them both.

lez 8th Jul 2006 09:00

Flybe pics
 

Originally Posted by gary4444
Off the top of my head
30/12/06 G-JEDW
22/01/06 both G-JEDT and G-JECH

Just to add to Gary's post here is a few pics taken by Kelvin Coombes on the 22/01/06

http://kelvincoombes5817.fotopic.net/c836414.html

:ugh: <----- Must feel like this when answering RobT100's replies lol :}

gary4444 8th Jul 2006 10:56

I've heard on the grapevine that CATIIIA ILS will be installed at the airport later this year after the new radar has been finished, anyone know anymore?

holidaymax 11th Jul 2006 13:56


Originally Posted by gary4444
I've heard on the grapevine that CATIIIA ILS will be installed at the airport later this year after the new radar has been finished, anyone know anymore?

Aparently so, work is ongoing on the new radar now and the ILS upgrade will take place at the end of the year.

Anyone heard any movements on the Globespan front, there was supposed to be a forthcoming announcement with a Tenerife service this winter :confused:

almost professional 11th Jul 2006 15:22

was the lighting to allow CAT2/3 ops put in before opening?

NorthSouth 12th Jul 2006 09:12

almost professional

No, they have no TDZ, centreline or stopway lighting.
NS

almost professional 12th Jul 2006 09:23

not going to get much benefit from CAT3 capable ILS then!

holidaymax 12th Jul 2006 11:11

Why is there some unwritten rule stating lighting cannot be installed after opening :confused:

almost professional 12th Jul 2006 11:57

post does not say anything about adding lighting-just the ILS, also adding all the fittings, unless doing runway work at same time, is a major job-better to have done it before opening if that was the plan, looking at major closures to get the work done

holidaymax 12th Jul 2006 12:20

I think most people will agree things have progressed much faster than expected, and an upgrade was something not envisioned for a few years.

Night closures will be needed but that isn't out of the ordinary for runway work.

gary4444 12th Jul 2006 14:21

Bad news about the M18 link road not being approved for funding straight away, its a good job Peel have a backup plan with the new access road onto site that has been approved by Doncaster Council.

pug 12th Jul 2006 18:17

A straight through road connecting both jct 3 and 4 would be ideal, is that the plan? Sorry i have not kept upto date with the link road.

It would cut journeys from the rest of the region quite considerably, i could probably get there in 40 mins from west hull!:)

EGCA 15th Jul 2006 23:43

HI guys, a question for you Doncaster locals: Does any private flying take place from Finningley,( sorry, "Sheffield/ Doncaster/Robin Hood /Sherwood Forest, or whatever...) and has the reopening of Finningley placed any constraints on local GA airfields, eg Netherthorpe, Sandtoft, and others? Not up to speed with GA in your part of the World. ( exile hoping to return to Gods Wonderful County soon...)

Presumably the death knell for Sheffield City.

Just wondered because I heard a comment recently that Peel dont exactly encourage GA anymore at Blackpool.

EGCA

North Derbyshire's forgotten airfield.

bottom rung 16th Jul 2006 08:02

EGCA.... Peel have nothing to do with Blackpool.... try Liverpool. Go through the archives for the answers to your other queries as they have been discussed at great length already.

gary4444 16th Jul 2006 12:27

EGCA

GA traffic is around everyday at DSA along with military aircraft. Its not actively encouraged and they are not allowed to base at the airport but they do appear once or twice a day. Movement lists can be found on the Yahoo DSA group, egcn website and various other sites if you are interested in what comes in.

The local GA fields are fairly busy and as you would expect there are some misunderstandings between all parties concerned in the local approach airspace, as there is no controlled airspace between the numerous fields in the close area.


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