Jerbourg
I don't know where your "good authority is" but it can't be around a 1000 departure because Aurigny only has three ATRs and according to the schedules on their website one goes to Gatwick at 1020, one goes to Bristol at 1100, and the new Gatwick service arrives in Guernsey at 1130. So my guess would be around 1200-1210. Hopefully we'll find out soon, unless of course everything has changed again. I do find myself wondering if this is all happening, why are we talking about it and Aurigny not? |
According to Jethro's site, Aurigny are supposed to get 2 new ATR72s shortly - one this month and one in March. Unless they are withdrawing 2 older examples then there's your answer.
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Trislander Replacements?
Aurigny have been looking at replacing the ageing Trislanders with Do.228's. Looks like they are at last trying to counter act the continuing loss of pax on inter island routes to Blue Islands by re-equiping with someting a bit more modern than a BNT.
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The new Do228NG's are assembled in Germany by RUAG using parts procured from their Indian licencee:ok: They should consider the PZL Skytruck.;)
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I understand from someone who looked into this type in some detail a few years back that Do228s could only guarantee the performance to get out of Alderney with a maximum of 15 pax. Seems a pity to restrict a 19-seat turboprop to 15 seats, but I suppose it depends upon your priorities.
Would Manx2 be a good tie-up, given their experience of the type and their owner's experience of the island (notwithstanding the need to bury a very large hatchet from previous encounters first)? |
There is also the 16seat Dornier 228-100.
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Atr72-500
Are the 2 new aircraft still expected in March/April?
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Grenoble
I understand GR operate skiing charters from GCI/JER to Grenoble this winter. Do they operate every week and which is the company chartering the flights?
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Eyeinthesky - I did hear in the Aero Club bar the other night that Manx2 persons have been spotted at GR HQ in recent weeks, maybe only a rumour tho'.
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According to the GEP today two new ATR's G-VZON & G-COBO arrive early next month.
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Direct Jersey Stansted services now available on the web site. Looks like prices start at £30 including 20kgs hold baggage alllowance.
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Will this service work second time around??
All very well having a Jersey to Stansted, at the times they are going to operate will it work??
With the end of the Jersey-Heathrow service next month where will those passengers who would have flown from Heathrow go to? Gatwick at the moment gives a varity of flights to Jersey, you can also do for a day trip both ways. London City Monday to Friday gives a daytrip to Jersey for six hours only. So what market are Aurigny looking at?, by the time Jersey passengers get to Stansted there must be very little Easyjet or Ryanair flights to chose to go on with there might be some Air Berlin to Germany. |
FR & EZY fly numerous routes all day long out of Stansted, flights don't stop after lunch, Aurigny should not have a problem making a success of the route.
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Jerbourg
How can this route work?:suspect:
The flight departs Jersey mid afternoon 1530 arrival Stansted say 1630 so what flights are still to depart Stansted after that? If your next flight needs a check in of an hour that makes your onward connection 1745 at least if the flight in from Jersey is on time, who would risk a connection like that? So we have a night stop in the Radisson Hotel Stansted at a reduced rate??? I understand there is a Radission Hotel on Jersey, so has Aurigny done any deals????.:ok: The following morning you can take your pick on the early morning departures around Europe??:ok: |
Does this mean the GCI-STN times will change for the summer? What happens to aircraft after it gets to STN?
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Why are you all so focused on connecting traffic? I do not think that the route is based on the assumption that most pax will self-connect at STN. Certainly there is a reasonable market for local traffic from the North London/Cambridge area, particularly with the LHR service gone.
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The Aurigny website will currently let you book a direct flight from STN-GCI after 30th April but not the return trip. It just states "We could not find any flights or seats available on the date selected."
Seems odd that you can't book a return journey even if it may be routed via JER? |
Flights schedules from Guernsey and Jersey to Stansted are as followed;
GCI – STN 12:10 – 13:20 STN – JER 13:50 – 15:05 JER – STN 15:35 – 16:50 STN – GCI 17:20 – 18:30 Given that there will be no Heathrow flights and a reduced frequency to Luton I imagine that there is a sufficient market for flights to the Island from Stansted for locals and tourists. Obviously recent attempts to relaunch the route have not been successful for various reasons, but I think enough demand exists and I hope Aurigny are more successful this time. |
Thanks J-Guy. In fact I've just tried again on their website & it now shows the GCI-STN flight as well. I assume it was just a glitch on their site earlier this morning.
Regarding demand, if the price is right (especially this summer) then it will be a success! They have lots of experience vs. FlyBe on this matter & in my experience they're a lot less hassle as you don't have to pay extras etc. |
GBALU53
Have you actually looked at the STN departure board? Departures tonight from 1800 onwards: 18:00 FR306 SALZBURG 18:00 FR968 GOTHENBURG CITY 18:05 FR2468 LODZ 18:05 FR8363 SEVILLE 18:10 EZY3467 COPENHAGEN 18:10 FR107 SHANNON 18:15 FR3014 ROME CIAMPINO 18:20 FR701 KERRY 18:25 EZY3417 MUNICH 18:30 FR227 DUBLIN 18:30 FR8347 PORTO 18:30 OR973 KINGSTON 18:40 FR2003 FRIEDRICHSHAFEN 18:40 FR9774 KARLSRUHE BADEN 18:45 EZY263 BELFAST 18:45 FR4198 MILAN BERGAMO 18:45 FR8546 BERLIN SCHONEFE 18:55 FR2316 BRATISLAVA 19:00 FR5998 MADRID 19:05 FR038 OSLO TORP 19:05 FR798 VENICE TREVISO 19:20 EZY519 NEWCASTLE 19:20 FR464 TURIN 19:25 EZY3009 AMSTERDAM 19:30 AEU156 KEFLAVIK 19:35 FR052 STOCKHOLM SKAVS 19:35 FR613 DERRY 19:45 EZY217 GLASGOW 19:45 FR6542 MARSEILLE 19:45 FR907 CORK 20:00 A3605 ATHENS 20:00 DY1305 OSLO 20:05 4U357 COLOGNE 20:05 FR293 DUBLIN 20:10 FR3634 BREMEN 20:10 FR419 GLASGOW PIK 20:10 FR6129 BELFAST CITY 20:15 AB8343 DUSSELDORF 20:15 AB8821 MUNSTER 20:20 4U2379 STUTTGART 20:30 FR586 PISA 20:40 AB8423 HANOVER 20:40 FR3258 DUSSELDORF WEEZ 20:40 FR758 FRANKFURT HAHN 20:45 AB8595 NUREMBERG 20:55 EZY245 EDINBURGH 21:10 EZY219 GLASGOW 21:45 FR109 SHANNON 21:45 FR297 DUBLIN 22:00 YK956 ANTALYA Quite a few choices then! But I don't think Aurigny's main focus will be on transfer traffic, sure some of it will be, but there is a big leisure market to and from the Stansted catchment area. Surely if the Guernsey Stansted route can operated almost daily year round off peak timed services, then the Jersey Stansted market can as well. I wish them well in these difficult times for airlines. |
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