Thanks for that list! You learn something every day!
In my ignorance, and blinded by the length of the list of destinations, I had just assumed Wizz already had aircraft based at Luton! |
Looks like Lublin and Poznan have been chopped from GLA for the winter, following Vilnius last year.
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Kosice dropped from Bristol as well.
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Looks like Wizz have struggled with FR at Glasgow. They duplicated or flew cities close by like Polanga in LTU.
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And someone will be along to blame Brexit in 3, 2, 1....
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Perhaps they could try other bigger Euro cities from GLA instead of the smaller secondary city migration markets. Wizz have a huge network with lots of opportunities. Brexit must undoubtedly have an impact for these types of routes. Maybe Blue Air will step up as they have elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by mockingjay
(Post 9740284)
And someone will be along to blame Brexit in 3, 2, 1....
Hopefully, with a common sense solution to the Brexit talks, any down turn may be only temporary, but we shall see; but anyway it's out of the hands of the airlines, and their passengers. |
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 9740331)
Perhaps they could try other bigger Euro cities from GLA instead of the smaller secondary city migration markets. Wizz have a huge network with lots of opportunities. Brexit must undoubtedly have an impact for these types of routes. Maybe Blue Air will step up as they have elsewhere.
People will chop and change depending on availability / price but seems to be what I am seeing. |
Wizz and in particular Blue have a habit of flying to places you would only want to go to if you lived there, at times that very often reflect the same!
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It always surprises me that there are no flights to the major cities of the old Yugoslavia - Zagreb, Belgrade, possibly even Sarajevo.
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I believe Wizz have plenty of routes from Belgrade and have 1 route from Sarajevo
Do Ljubljana, Nis, Osijek, Pristina, Split. Skopje and Tuzla count as important ? Wizz flies to all of these cities, although admittedly these seem to be much more centred on routes to central Europe countres (rather than the UK) instead compared to routes from Poland |
Yugoslavia finished 25 years ago so the locals hate hearing this reference. Wizz tried Zagreb and the locals preferred OU and BA. Wizz have a base at BEG. Serbs, Bosnians, Kosovans and Macedonians need a visa for the UK so fair play to Wizz for offering theses routes. LTN to SPU and LJU are mainly for UK tourists.
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I am well aware of the history! And I was specifically referring to flights from Scotland. After all there are flights from GLA and/or EDI to most of the major cities of central Europe, just not to the cities I mentioned.
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And I was specifically referring to flights from Scotland |
It's interesting how Scotland is losing flights. Luton, England has gained a WIZZ base, increased frequencies and upguages to A321.
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Even Eastern Europeans draw the line at living in Scotland:E
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Have English bases gained the exact same routes that GLA has lost?
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Originally Posted by mockingjay
(Post 9741543)
It's interesting how Scotland is losing flights. Luton, England has gained a WIZZ base, increased frequencies and upguages to A321.
Airlines serve routes that have demand and make money. Wizz Air specialise in flights to Eastern Europe, so they will serve UK destinations that have high levels of Eastern Europeans. It doesn't depend on the total population of the area, as a service to say Paris might do. For example, Doncaster/Sheffield handles barely 1 million annual passengers, but the demand is there to operate 12 routes to Eastern Europe. Bristol has a much larger catchment area, but is only able to sustain three Wizz Air routes. Evidently the demand is not there to sustain a Glasgow-Lublin service, meaning there are probably only small numbers of Eastern Poles living in Glasgow. However, if Wizz do research and find that lots of Lithuanians have moved to Scotland, they'll probably start a Vilnius service. If you look at all UK airports served by Wizz Air, each airport has a completely different combination of destinations based on the demographics of that area. Regarding Wizz Air upgrading services to the A321, it's a much more efficient and gradual way to increase capacity on a route, and you shouldn't read into it too much. Remember that most of Wizz Air's routes to the UK are served only 2-3 times a week, so it's not as if they're adding thousands of extra seats a week on UK routes. For example, if Wizz serve a route twice weekly with an A320 and want to increase capacity, their options are to add a third weekly flight, or upgrade to the A321. x2 weekly A320: 38,800 annual seats x2 weekly A321: 49,690 annual seats x3 weekly A320: 58,320 annual seats By upgrading to the A321, it allows Wizz Air to increase capacity slightly so that they don't end up flying three half empty A320s each week.
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 9741589)
Have English bases gained the exact same routes that GLA has lost?
Glasgow: Lublin dropped Bristol: Kosice dropped Liverpool: Lublin added Luton: Kutaisi, Pristina, Tel Aviv added |
I'm not sure it makes much sense for Wizzair to make Luton into a large base - labour costs are significantly lower in Eastern Europe than London; Wizzair will not want to let their cost base increase any more than absolutely necessary.
In any case, I doubt this is much of an option for Wizzair until there are lots more overnight stands and early morning departure slots available |
The guessing game for me is which routes will be operated by the based aircraft and why!
I assume it only makes sense to have a based aircraft for a limited number of routes they want to operate to non-bases that can't easily fit into a w pattern either operationally in a convenient manner or because operating the flights at particular times non-based aircraft can't do is strongly beneficial. Given that they don't really do business routes (or maybe they want start doing so?) timing isn't an issue (and perhaps giving people till later in the morning to get to Luton is even an advantage, seeing as it's not the easiest airport to get to?). |
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