Ryanair
 

I know that Ryanair is going to start 2 new bases next year.
I have heard some rumours that they are going to have a base in Greece.
Can someone confirm this.

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Yes I can.

MK

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Where do you get your info? I work for them and havn't heard that rumour yet!

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

It will intersting to know where ? It cannot be LGAV as its the most expensive airport in Europe,and they don't like paying fees !! So where else would they go ?

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

-IF- this is true, perhaps Thessaloniki LGTS??

Greece could do with a REAL LCC as Aegean isn't all that cheap...

LGAV may be very expensive, but EZY flies there from three destinations.

let's wait and see.

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Geia sou Jimmy the Big Greek,

Stansted to Athens would be a great route. H Athina einai 6 me 7 ores odigisi apo tin Thessaloniki, pou sumainei oti einai arketa makria akoma kai gia tin Ryanair. Apo oti gnorizo den uparxoun alles epiloges gia tin perioxi tis Athinas ektos kai an kanonoun kapio diakanonizmo me to palio Elliniko Airodromio. Einai kleisto edo kai 5 xronia kai vevaia poly usixo!

Cheers,
Donners.

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Giasas everybody

No, Donners. The old airport in athens (helliniko) is closed. They are going to build houses there.

Good base would be Heraklion in Creete.

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Houses? <cough> Surely "largest urban park in Europe" ;) Using Ellinikon would probably be the first instance where a "Ryanairport" was closer to the city it served than the principal airport :eek: I'd have thought Tanagra was more likely :)
Greece is crying out for for more competition (be it an LCC or otherwise): On domestic routes, OA and A3 are expensive and their flights are packed out . As Donners says, driving between Greece's two principal cities takes ages - even longer if you chance the train - so there is a significant domestic market to be exploited, not to mention the potential for expansion into the Balkans.
HER would be a good choice and would seem to offer more potential than Thessaloniki as a base. Given SKG's reputation for foggy wx that might not be a match made in heaven anyway. On the face of it, ATH would seem to be too expensive for an LCC, but of late the airport has been looking rather empty (is the satellite ever used anymore?) and AIA might welcome a low cost entrant...

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

I heard stories of BGY-SKG and CIA-SKG last year, but as with 90% of Ryanair rumours nothing came of it.

This thread is the first time I've heard a Greek base mentioned.

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Is there any rumor that the second base could be Bratislava - Slovakia (Or as advertised, Vienna - Bratislava) ?

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

"Using Ellinikon would probably be the first instance where a "Ryanairport" was closer to the city it served than the principal airport"

How about CIA, and GSE?

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

The only reason for going to Greece is to stick it to Easyjet. I think Greece would be the longest sector for Ryanair (?) and long sectors are not profitable for LCC's. ATC delays and weather can wreck havoc with the timetable and the 25 mins turnround necessary to keep the planes flying. Remember Ryanair have no back up planes or pilots. Greece is out, IMHO, but North Africa might be the next opportunity!

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

It depends where you're flying to/from. Flying from the UK or Scandinavia would be out, but from Italy, it would be a reasonable destination. Even from Hahn, they fly routes of a similar distance (Tampere, Jerez).

Re: Ryanair in Greece?
 

Flyglobespan have launched this Route!

Ryanair
 

Ryanair to fly to Montenegro. Info from LUCHTZAK
Stanstedeye

Ryanair MRO in Latvia / Poland
 

In this week's Flight International Ryanair are said to be launching a joint venture with Singapore Technologies Aerospace to do all their maintenance in either Latvia or Poland. Although STAe have not confirmed this, if true, it sounds like the end of its loss making JV in Bournemouth.

I don't know about Riga, Latvia, because of the lack of complete technical facilities, but Warsaw, located in Central Europe, and a major European hub, could be a carrot for Ryanair.

In Poland Rzeszów (RZE) is competing, not Warsaw. They have a very decent airport and skilled workers there.

PS. And they offer some 30 hectares of land by the airport for free...

Ryanair B757 !
 

Well, not really, but it did look odd. T'was FJE for RYR. Not often that you see other carriers subbing for RYR though. Pilots and hours?

Quite a few of Ryanair's flights are operated by other aircraft.

A320s are used regurlarly.

Ryanair Web Check-In
 

Hi guys

Maybe I have missed something posted here - But I understood that Ryanair were introducing On-Line Check-In from the 16th March as part of their "Revolution" !!

I have booked flights for the end of May, but cannot find anything on their website to indicate On-Line Check-In.

Can anyone help?

Have a look at the Ryanair website now. The online check in is up and running. I know they had a few early problems with it but it should be sorted now.

When you try to check in online from Newcastle it lists Verona as a destination. Is this a glitch or a new route?

Not included on the booking engine though

Ryanair Smart or Not so smart
 

This is not a FR bashing thread just seeking some views
Undoubtedly Ryanair have made money and brought a new dimension to Euro airtravel
unquestionably their product -punctuality aside compares badly with most carriers but it can be incredibly cheap
My question however is that why do they offer money losing fares on routes with no competition and where they would have essentially the same pax load if their lowest fare was say £15 or €20. Most of their UK to France routes are where virtually all their pax would choose them anyway as no other carrier operates routes like EGSS-Carcasonne, Poitiers or Bergerac and much of their clientelle on those routes are perhaps not so price sensitive as on Gatwick-Dublin or EGSS -Prestwick
So to summarise have FR made a mistake in underpricing dozens of city pairs where they have no competition and have actually generated lots of new traffic. They only need the super cheap stuff on routes like EGSS-Stockholm ( not that any Swedish person would class their 'Stockholm' destinations as anywhere near the capital city ) where they have to drastically undercut BA SAS because of the disparity in service and convenience.
I confess I have never flown them -partly because I live 90 miles from EGSS on the other side of London and that coupled with their strange 'Am I bovvered' attitude to customers doesnt encourage me to fight the m3/m25/m11 or the difficulty amd hopeless unreliability of cross London rail
PB

PB
You make the mistake of assuming that Ryanair is an airline; it isn’t. It is a financial organisation that derives its income from selling and leasing back aircraft and getting grants for going to the outlying airfields that you meantion. The fares that it receives plus of course its profits on “taxes and charges” are only a part of the income that it generates.
It will all come to a grinding halt if the company stops bringing in new aircraft that it has been unable to sell and lease back. Air Europe was in the same "sell and leaseback" game in the 80’s and it all went wrong as we all remember, as of course did that huge Irish leasing company – I just can’t for the life of me remember its name, something to do with the Liffy if I remember. Is this a pub quiz?

Twas the same Mr Ryan that lost millions in GPA too.

going back to original posts - saintsman: how do you know that STAE (BASCO) is loss making at Bournemouth??? I thought they had a full maintenance backlog for some considerable years and the reason FR want to go to Poland/Latvia is that a) they can gain cheaper labour, b) they won't have to wait for a slot! BASCO has more plans at Bournemouth for larger and heavier aircraft maintenance - not less.

No pilot Shortage At RYAN AIR
 

Tonight out of EMA the SNN flight replaced by an A320.

Surely this is not because there are not enough pilots to fly in April:ok:

WB

6 new routes from Pisa
http://www.businessworld.ie/livenews...ollingnews.htm

The Ballykelly Ryanair!
 

I was shocked to see that the chartered Eirjet A320 from Liverpool to Derry today, the one that mistakenly landed at Ballykenny, only had 39 pax on board!

39 pax in a 189 configured aircraft, well assuming RYR were operating the flight and not the 180 (?) in an Eirjet A320.

39 divided by 189 = 21% load factor!

Why were Eirjet operating this flight?

Captain of the Eirjet needs to go to Specsavers!

Eirjet are operating a few flights for FR at the moment, not just this one. They're covering for FR's available crew shortages

In reply to BTB's load comments I too was surprised to hear of only 39 pax on the flight, especially when seen in the context of the following quote taken from Derry City Council's website (posted 9th Feb):

"Liverpool is a significant destination and is the hub of the North West of England and is fast becoming one of the UK’s fastest growing airports. The Liverpool route is already proving to be a very popular destination with North West passengers. In the first 24 hours of its announcement, over 5,000 seats were sold on the route, making it one of the most successful announcements to date"

So there must be some interest in the route. Also, would Ryanair bother if the yield was very poor?

I am amazed at how sloppy the Ryanair Financial Reports are.
If you go onto the website they are announcing the 2006 half yearly and 3rd quater reports. (they are in fact the 2005 reports).

The actual reports don't identify what year they are referring to until you actually get to the figures.

No indication is given to the actual number of leased aircraft or whether the aircraft are outside leases in addition to the purchased aircraft or sale and leaseback deals.

Sky9:
The Ryanair financial year x starts in April of the year x-1. Thus their 2006 financial year is April 1 2005 - March 31 2006. The third quarter is the quarter that ended on Dec 31.
This nomenclature is confusing but hardly unique to Ryanair.
If you have looked at many airline annual reports you will be aware that spelling out details of fleet leasing arrangements is not particularly common. I wish it were (it would make my job much easier :hmm: ) but it's not.
I am no fan of Ryanair but I don't think your "sloppy" allegation is proven.

RYANAIR CANCELLATIONS
 

Anyone know why Ryanair processed all of the pax at Stansted last Sunday, sending pax through airside, then deciding to tell them that the flights were cancelled? This caused chaos, having to retrieve baggae and an enormous queue to try and arrange alternative flights. I had to get a flight from EGKK at 0600 next morning, thanks to help from a good mate - cheers Steve! I am in Almeria now and there seems to be little or no information if things are back to normal with Ryan Air for return flights to UK for those that got here by other means. Has anyone got any updated information - anything would be wonderful! Tom hope you are having a good P.R.A.:confused:

WHY ARE THE FLIGHTS BEING CANCELLED
 

Ryanair are cancelling so many flights because the IAA has limited their AOC to 99 aircraft indefinitely.Some people speculate that this limitation is in response to the appalling treatment of its flight crews,its mismanagement of rostering and scheduling and the IAAs unease at pilots flying 900 hours in 9-10 months.Along with a few near death experiences,of course.Also ryanair will finally be made to comply with the jar limit of flying 900 hours in the rolling format and crews that would have previously come back in hours at april 1st,are still out of hours.
Another factor,is that ryanairs pilots have seen sense and refused to sign up to a five year penal labour roster and have screwed the schedule.So sure were management that they could foist these bull**** conditions upon the pilot group,that they had planned the summer schedule for longer days,assuming the pilots would bend over and take it.So now instead of re-organising the schedule they have cancelled the flights and diverted their efforts to penalising the pilot group for having the audacity to refuse such a great deal.A deal that the head of op's said will get through whatever,"because he had spent so much time working it out" and following the rejection sent a memo telling the pilots "that the company did not want the new terms and conditions anyhow".What a loser!

Grim

Where can I find all this written down?

If I'm on a rolling roster surely I need to know about it?

grim
surely if this was true FR would have to make a market announcement?

Stan you can find it on the AOC and www.repaweb.org

markd you have been around long enough now to know that ryanair management could put the labour party to shame when it comes to spin,spin,spin.What do you think the announcement would be?

Well, I have been considering the interview offer from RyanAir / Brookfield for quite some time now. I have to say, that while the thought of an early Captain seat is tempting, the things I read here about the company and their practices are quite troubling.

With a recall back to USAirways in probably 12 to 18 months I am weighing the two out. The thought of living in Europe and flying the 737 again is what draws me. But I am not so sure that working in this chaos that I see described is good for my career.

Any thoughts or insights. Is RyanAir a poor career decision?