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sky9 7th Apr 2006 06:53

I see that Ryanair have changed the recruiting advert to "the high pay airline" up to £100,000 per annum.
So "high pay" could on the basis of the PPRuNe evidence be from nothing to £100,000.

bacardi walla 7th Apr 2006 07:06

If it's true that RYR have been capped by the IAA to 99 aircraft, what effect will this have on deliveries of new 738's ? Who will RYR blame for that one ? Won't be themselves that's for sure......

Looooong haul 7th Apr 2006 07:46

If this 99 aircraft is true they will sell of the oldest 738s and tell the investment community that it is a great time to sell 738s straight after the warranty has run out (about 5 Ys)

MarkD 7th Apr 2006 13:11

Ryanair announced plans to sell the first few 738s some time ago. Jethros has the details on the FR fleet list.

IronWalt 8th Apr 2006 21:58


Originally Posted by StopTheRot
IronWalt - I would come for 18 months on Brookfield contract, If you get the roaming base 5 on 5 off you can get salary tax free. A lot of captain take home 11000 euros per month and if you roam and can legally avoid tax its a fair whack. Just make sure ABOLSUTELY EVERYTHING you are promised is written down in any contract and you've read it. Verbal agreements or interview promises of money, roster patterns or bases have been broken countless times.

And what happens after 18 months? If I move to the EU to take this on, I am going to want it permanently. Is there a point where we become RyanAir employees or are we permanently attached to Brookfield?

airhumberside 12th Apr 2006 09:55

FR: 9 new Hahn routes, including Morocco
 
Ryanair have announced new flights to

Fez
Granada
Kaunsas
Krakow
Marrakesh
Murcia
Trieste
Verona (not Verona Bresica)
Wroclaw

Flights start late October with an extra 2 B737-800's to be based at Hahn

jack_essex 12th Apr 2006 10:03

Sounds great. Hopefully we will see some Stansted - Morocco routes soon!

escapeSNBA 12th Apr 2006 13:04

I was looking for some more information on the technical interview at ryanair... (un)fortunatly I run into this big discussions about Ryanair.

So now, I am in a big doubth...

Should I leave my company (SNBrussels Airlines) , making only 3500 euro's as a captain every month, for a nice salery at Ryanair (6000 euro's a month) flying a nice plane? Or is this a hugh mistake?

Were are the Ryanair pilots to help me to make up my mind?

What will happen with their Cao limiting them to only 99 aircrafts
What will happen with their rosters? 5:3 5/4
What will happen with their income?
Are you paid from they one?

thanks in advance for your help

EI-CFC 12th Apr 2006 23:20


Originally Posted by escapeSNBA
Were are the Ryanair pilots to help me to make up my mind?

You might have more look asking in the Terms and Endearment forum in the Pilot section :)

http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38

humberside_go 19th Apr 2006 02:26

I'm booked to fly with ryanair on the 7th june from Liverpool to Riga, returning on the 13th. My gripe is this, when I booked the flight back on the 24th January the confirmation page stated the flight would leave at 7.05am on the outward sector, arriving Riga at 11.50am. The return flight was stated as departing at 12.15 arriving Liverpool 13.05. Now I decided to check the view booking page on the Ryanair website today to discover that the flight times have been changed to departing at 1735 on the 7th and returning at 23.35 on the 13th. I've had no emails/phone calls etc from ryanair to advise me of this change in flight times which is approximatley 10 hours later than the advertised time. The change in times I can just about live with (although these new times are much nastier than the originals) what has really annoyed me is that Ryanair have neglected to tell me of the change to my itinery as soon as they have known about it themselves - I was left to check for myself. Imagine my reaction if I were to make the 2 and half hour drive through the night to Liverpool to be told that my flight would not be departing for over 10 hours! Just a short email to me advising of the changes is all that it would have taken to avoid this possible situation. It makes me wonder how many people who have booked early on this flight are going to turn up at 5am for a flight that won't depart until 1735.

indiamikecharles 19th Apr 2006 08:16

I didn't see if someone mentioned it already, RYR are or were negotiating plans to operate out of Maribor, Slovenia, I heard a couple of weeks ago.

OltonPete 19th Apr 2006 08:17

Ryanair time changes
 
I must admit I had the opposite experience. I had booked Ryanair BHX - Girona - BHX and after their spat with BHX the flight was moved to East Midlands. Within days I had an e-mail from Ryanair re-booking me from East Midlalnds.

Living 3-4 miles from BHX I naturally told them where to go and requested
my money back. Ryanair promptly told me (very politely) to go away. This
involved me getting to East Midlands at 6am (Sunday) - Noooooooo way.

Solihull Trading Standards got me a full refund within a few weeks -
granted it had hit the local press by this time.

Ryanair also wrote to me and the content was first class and certainly
at the time buried the myth that there is no such thing as Customer
Service at Ryanair.

Although I got a good result, I have never flown with Ryanair since. However it is prevalent with the LCC's & both Myttravellite and Baby have changed my flight times. In all instances they have always let me know in good time. Baby in fact phoned me on my mobile and wrote to me. Mytravellite even changed my flight to the following afternoon which suited me and at no extra cost!

I know this does not help you but I think it is one of the things you have
to put up with when booking with LCC's. I always complain until I get my money back or a more suitable flight and more often or not it works.

A work colleague had the same problem with Wizz to Buda, moved his flight time 10 hours and he got a full refund after a long phone call - he booked
with Easy instead!

OltonPete

BALIX 19th Apr 2006 10:08

Well, Ryanair have never failed to tell me of a flight timing change. I suspect it is all automatic and whenever a schedule change is entered into the reservation computer an e mail is sent to everyone with a reservation on that flight that has provided an e mail addy. Of course you might have changed your e mail addy in the mean time but I'm sure that somewhere in the booking process it tells you to advise them of any change in e mail address for this very reason.

humberside_go 19th Apr 2006 11:34

Just found out from a friend who booked the other half of the tickets in our party and he hasn't received any email advising him of the change either so it doesnt seem to be just me they've neglected to inform. Whats even more annoying is theres no way I can clarify the change without ringing their reservation centre, a reservations email contact would be useful.

allanmack 19th Apr 2006 12:16

Never had any problems with FR and being notified of any changes in schedule. Always had an e-mail to inform me. What has happened though, with all the filters I now have in place to stop SPAM, I am finding that various e-mails are being sent direct to the Junk Mail box and my last FR flight change was one. This is now rectified so be careful that the e-mails are not being filtered out as SPAM.

EI-CFC 19th Apr 2006 18:56


The change in times I can just about live with (although these new times are much nastier than the originals) what has really annoyed me is that Ryanair have neglected to tell me of the change to my itinery as soon as they have known about it themselves
I'm sure they forgot to put you at the head of the queue...in front of the thousands of others that have to be notified about the schedule change which occur for most airlines, especially coming into the summer. As you're not flying until June, you may be a little down the list..

ryanair1 21st Apr 2006 11:28

we certainly don't do it on purpose - customers are number one of course

pwalhx 21st Apr 2006 11:44

I am booked or was booked to fly with Ryanair to Riga in June. I received notification yesterday of the timing change.

As the change was over two hours there was the option to cancel with a full refun which I took as I need to be in Riga early afternoon.

Seemed perfectly acceptable customer service to me.

shamrock7seal 21st Apr 2006 15:44

but they get us all to believe the ticket cost is cheap then tell us we need to pay for insurance, baggage, £5 for a coffee etc. This isnt sustainable - sooner of later people will think we're being taken for a ride

ryanair1 21st Apr 2006 16:10

shamrock7seal

true. but we're still miles cheaper than anyone else. our average fare is now £28 net. beat that!

the only people who are pi*sed off with us are the airlines we compete with and the airports we don't pay

customers love us 99% of the time. we get it right 99% of the time - which is more than any other airline in the world

safety, reliability and affordability - nothing else matters

Coasthugger 21st Apr 2006 16:57


Originally Posted by ryanair1
customers are number one of course

ROFLMAO.

Profits are number one, don't kid yourself.

airbourne 22nd Apr 2006 08:41

Munster V Leinster Rugby game 2moro. Theres a great ad in the news papers that Ryanair will give 1000 free flights for every point munster win by tomorow. HOWEVER the cost of a flight from Cork - Dublin tomorow is over €300!! Yeh, the low fares ailines alright!!

captwannabe 22nd Apr 2006 09:15


Originally Posted by ryanair1
the only people who are pi*sed off with us are the airlines we compete with and the airports we don't pay

Don't forget to mention all the pilots who have had to pay for their TR (except the blond Swedes for SAA, they didn't know any better).
And every other pilot and wannabe who thinks about how Ryanair is :mad:ing up the industry with their :mad: T&Cs.

:* (Delete as appropriate Mods)

michaelknight 22nd Apr 2006 09:36

It is clear from all of 'ryanair1' 10 posts in his first day of joining, that he is some 13 year old child pulling his plumb behind a PC out to wind people up.

MODs worry about bandwidth, remove this clown.

MK

PS: Professional forum, I don't like wasting time reading the BS.

EI-CFC 22nd Apr 2006 11:19


Originally Posted by airbourne
HOWEVER the cost of a flight from Cork - Dublin tomorow is over €300!! Yeh, the low fares ailines alright!!

And your point is? Most, if not all airlines will charge a lot more for last minute/walk up bookings.

Stanstedeye 22nd Apr 2006 18:38


Originally Posted by michaelknight
It is clear from all of 'ryanair1' 10 posts in his first day of joining, that he is some 13 year old child pulling his plumb behind a PC out to wind people up.
MODs worry about bandwidth, remove this clown.
MK
PS: Professional forum, I don't like wasting time reading the BS.


I assume that you do not love your employer.

gilesdavies 24th Apr 2006 22:40

Why No Ryanair Expansion from Luton?
 
Ryanair launched their Luton base over a year ago now to much fan fare and promise of new routes and this was just the start of a huge expansion from the airport.

During that time since the launch of the new base we have seen several routes chop and change and no growth during that time, unlike its other bases which continued to grow and develop (namely Liverpool).

Luton is continuing to flourish with other LCC launching new routes - so why not Ryanair?

Routes we have seen disappear include Dinard, Ebsjerg and Venice Treviso. These routes have been replaced by other routes including Brest and Knock, also routes to Shannon and Bergamo that were operated by aircraft from their respected bases are simply operated by Luton based aircraft now.

Is Ryanair unhappy with passenger numbers from its Luton base or is the base simply there to act as a leverage pawn to remind BAA their are alternative London bases available?

Is there still four 737-800's based at Luton?

Regards
Giles

DrKev 25th Apr 2006 07:51

Does anyone know how many PSO routes Ryanair operate?

Cyrano 25th Apr 2006 08:42


Originally Posted by DrKev
Does anyone know how many PSO routes Ryanair operate?

To the best of my knowledge, zero. They tendered for the Dublin-Kerry PSO route in Ireland a year ago but didn't get it (Aer Arann did).

Incidentally Ryanair (and Easyjet) are currently in dispute with ENAC (the Italian CAA) over their right to start non-PSO service between Sardinia and the Italian mainland on routes which already have a PSO awarded to another carrier.

Any others?

brabazon 25th Apr 2006 09:13

Cyrano you are correct. The whole point of a PSO should be that the route can't be operated on a commercial basis - something that Ryanair wouldn't do.

A good example of the PSO in action is the Glasgow - Barra route - however, you will find that the French and Italians use the PSO system for more "political" routes and it could be argued (as Ryanair and easyJet are) that some of their designated routes could be operated on a commercial basis. On the other hand if the French/Italian tax payers are happy for their money to be spent on subsidising such routes rather than on other things likes hospitals, roads, schools etc - well who are people who are not French or Italian residents to complain?

Coasthugger 25th Apr 2006 10:21


Originally Posted by brabazon
well who are people who are not French or Italian residents to complain?

Other EU taxpayers? After all, all EU governments participate in the funding of the EU. So arguably that is money which should be spent elsewhere than in France or Italy - that's why there are rules about state aid within the EU.
Crikey, never thought I'd find myself supporting a Ryanair position! Mind you, it's their usual hypocrisy, they were happy to benefit from subsidies at Charleroi and elsewhere. :)

brabazon 25th Apr 2006 10:51

The EU doesn't collect taxes only national governments. Ths PSOs are funded from the nation's coffers not via an EU subsidy. UK taxpayers are not subisidising these routes if that's what you think.

ryanair1 25th Apr 2006 16:39

michaelknight believes i am 'pulling my plumb' behind the computer. why make it personal mike?

er... who gives a rats ass who i am (and what i do in FR) the point is not to get personal with each other but to face the reality that this industry is over-priced and under-served. we are working to change that... so bend over and accept it - like a man

Evileyes 25th Apr 2006 17:37

Mod comment to all: Get back on topic, knock off the personal abuse, innuendo and profanity, or take an enforced break from PPRuNe.

There is an "Edit" button on the bottom right of your post windows, consider using it if this applies to you.

Note also that there is a "Delete" function there which removes the entire post if it lends nothing to the conversation.

caaardiff 25th Apr 2006 17:42

Ryanair to pull out of CWL
 
Advertising link removed

This has been posted elsewhere, but is also relevant to this topic.
As of may 1st, ryanair will cease the DUB-CWL route and all flights will now go from Bristol.

LTNman 25th Apr 2006 17:43


Originally Posted by gilesdavies
Ryanair launched their Luton base over a year ago now to much fan fare and promise of new routes and this was just the start of a huge expansion from the airport.
During that time since the launch of the new base we have seen several routes chop and change and no growth during that time, unlike its other bases which continued to grow and develop (namely Liverpool).
Luton is continuing to flourish with other LCC launching new routes - so why not Ryanair?
Routes we have seen disappear include Dinard, Ebsjerg and Venice Treviso. These routes have been replaced by other routes including Brest and Knock, also routes to Shannon and Bergamo that were operated by aircraft from their respected bases are simply operated by Luton based aircraft now.
Is Ryanair unhappy with passenger numbers from its Luton base or is the base simply there to act as a leverage pawn to remind BAA their are alternative London bases available?
Is there still four 737-800's based at Luton?
Regards
Giles

Still 4 LTN based aircraft but no spare stands for night stoppers until 2007/2008 now that easyjet has taken what was left.

geraintw 25th Apr 2006 18:06

Ryanair Waves Goodbye to Cardiff
 
RYANAIR ANNOUNCES CLOSURE OF DUBLIN - CARDIFF ROUTE

Ryanair, Europe's leading low fares airline, today (April 25, 2006) announced the cessation of its service from Dublin to Cardiff and the transfer of these services to Bristol International Airport with effect from Monday next, 1 May.

Ryanair's five-year agreement with Cardiff Airport was due for renewal on that date but the airport has insisted on increasing its passenger charges by over 350%. In addition, the airport has reneged on elements of its current contract and is attempting to force Ryanair to pay extra charges for services which were covered under that contract.

Announcing the decision, Ryanair's Deputy Chief Executive Michael Cawley said: "Cardiff Airport is pricing itself out of the low fares market. Cost increases of the order of 350% belong to an era when the lowest air fare from Ireland to the UK was €250.

"Ryanair has a wide choice of competitive airports available to it and, with effect from Monday next, 1 May, we will be transferring these services to Bristol International Airport and, for those flights up to 10 May, Ryanair will provide coach services between the two airports.

"In addition, we will be offering refunds to any passengers who have already booked on these Cardiff flights and who don't wish to travel to Bristol. We very much regret the inconvenience caused to our passengers but we are not prepared to tolerate these levels of cost increase on their behalf from airports whose only interest seems to be to gouge passengers with extortionate price increases."

Cardiff Airport replied:

Cardiff – Dublin services

Cardiff International Airport has become the latest in a string of airports to come under attack from Ryanair – in March it was Ireland’s Cork Airport; earlier in April, Stansted was in their sights.

Statements by the airline about their contract with Cardiff International Airport are incorrect but they are renowned for taking up such positions and have done this with a number of airports in the UK and their native Ireland.

In fact, charges proposed by Cardiff International were less than the average that Ryanair publicly admits it pays across Europe.

Dublin-bound passengers left in the lurch by Ryanair need not worry. Award-winning airline Aer Arann have this evening confirmed that they will take over the lucrative 180,000 passengers-a-year Cardiff-Dublin route with a twice-daily service from next week. Fares from £19.99 one way including taxes will be offered on Aer Arann’s new service..

Aer Arann have already taken over Cardiff-Cork, announced new services to Lorient and is expected to announce a Cardiff – Galway service tomorrow.

Q40099 25th Apr 2006 18:13

Ryanair axe Cardiff - Dublin
 
Ryanair, Europe’s leading low fares airline, today announced the cessation of its service from Dublin to Cardiff and the transfer of these services to Bristol International Airport with effect from Monday next, 1st May. Ryanair’s five year agreement with Cardiff Airport was due for renewal on that date but the airport has insisted on increasing its passenger charges by over 350%. In addition, the airport has reneged on elements of its current contract and is attempting to force Ryanair to pay extra charges for services which were covered under that contract.
Announcing the decision Ryanair’s Deputy Chief Executive, Michael Cawley, said,
“Cardiff Airport is pricing itself out of the low fares market. Cost increases of the order of 350% belong to an era when the lowest air fare from Ireland to the UK was €250. Ryanair has a wide choice of competitive airports available to it and, with effect from Monday next, 1st May, we will be transferring these services to Bristol International Airport. For those flights up to the 10th May Ryanair will provide coach services between the two airports.
In addition we will be offering refunds to any passengers who have already booked on these Cardiff flights and who don’t wish to travel to Bristol. We very much regret the inconvenience caused to our passengers but we are not prepared to tolerate these levels of cost increases on their behalf from airports whose only interest seems to be to gouge passengers with extortionate price increases. ”


Congratulations to the mngt at CWL, one airline gone out of business and another pulled out, all in the space of a week. All the pax will just go to Bristol and reap all passenger numbers altogether. The low cost revolution is something Airports should grasp and welcome, Cardiff seem to be pushing the Loco's away with fee increases. Isn't it time JH retired?

:ok:

Eh Hello? 25th Apr 2006 18:20

Aer Arann are set to pick it up with a twice daily starting at £19.99 - quick move !

PeterP 25th Apr 2006 19:37

Strange response, Q40099. One daily rotation goes, replaced by at least two plus another route into the bargain. And at what Ryanair claims is its average airport charge across Europe. Plus a REAL £19.99 fare includes taxes. Not a bad result at all.

Anyone who is asked to accept a Bristol flight instead can, of course, claim up to 250 euros compensation, I think. Plus a seat on the Aer Arann service.


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