ROFLMAO.

Profits are number one, don't kid yourself.

Munster V Leinster Rugby game 2moro. Theres a great ad in the news papers that Ryanair will give 1000 free flights for every point munster win by tomorow. HOWEVER the cost of a flight from Cork - Dublin tomorow is over €300!! Yeh, the low fares ailines alright!!

Don't forget to mention all the pilots who have had to pay for their TR (except the blond Swedes for SAA, they didn't know any better).
And every other pilot and wannabe who thinks about how Ryanair is :mad:ing up the industry with their :mad: T&Cs.

:* (Delete as appropriate Mods)

It is clear from all of 'ryanair1' 10 posts in his first day of joining, that he is some 13 year old child pulling his plumb behind a PC out to wind people up.

MODs worry about bandwidth, remove this clown.

MK

PS: Professional forum, I don't like wasting time reading the BS.

And your point is? Most, if not all airlines will charge a lot more for last minute/walk up bookings.

I assume that you do not love your employer.

Why No Ryanair Expansion from Luton?
 

Ryanair launched their Luton base over a year ago now to much fan fare and promise of new routes and this was just the start of a huge expansion from the airport.

During that time since the launch of the new base we have seen several routes chop and change and no growth during that time, unlike its other bases which continued to grow and develop (namely Liverpool).

Luton is continuing to flourish with other LCC launching new routes - so why not Ryanair?

Routes we have seen disappear include Dinard, Ebsjerg and Venice Treviso. These routes have been replaced by other routes including Brest and Knock, also routes to Shannon and Bergamo that were operated by aircraft from their respected bases are simply operated by Luton based aircraft now.

Is Ryanair unhappy with passenger numbers from its Luton base or is the base simply there to act as a leverage pawn to remind BAA their are alternative London bases available?

Is there still four 737-800's based at Luton?

Regards
Giles

Does anyone know how many PSO routes Ryanair operate?

To the best of my knowledge, zero. They tendered for the Dublin-Kerry PSO route in Ireland a year ago but didn't get it (Aer Arann did).

Incidentally Ryanair (and Easyjet) are currently in dispute with ENAC (the Italian CAA) over their right to start non-PSO service between Sardinia and the Italian mainland on routes which already have a PSO awarded to another carrier.

Any others?

Cyrano you are correct. The whole point of a PSO should be that the route can't be operated on a commercial basis - something that Ryanair wouldn't do.

A good example of the PSO in action is the Glasgow - Barra route - however, you will find that the French and Italians use the PSO system for more "political" routes and it could be argued (as Ryanair and easyJet are) that some of their designated routes could be operated on a commercial basis. On the other hand if the French/Italian tax payers are happy for their money to be spent on subsidising such routes rather than on other things likes hospitals, roads, schools etc - well who are people who are not French or Italian residents to complain?

Other EU taxpayers? After all, all EU governments participate in the funding of the EU. So arguably that is money which should be spent elsewhere than in France or Italy - that's why there are rules about state aid within the EU.
Crikey, never thought I'd find myself supporting a Ryanair position! Mind you, it's their usual hypocrisy, they were happy to benefit from subsidies at Charleroi and elsewhere. :)

The EU doesn't collect taxes only national governments. Ths PSOs are funded from the nation's coffers not via an EU subsidy. UK taxpayers are not subisidising these routes if that's what you think.

michaelknight believes i am 'pulling my plumb' behind the computer. why make it personal mike?

er... who gives a rats ass who i am (and what i do in FR) the point is not to get personal with each other but to face the reality that this industry is over-priced and under-served. we are working to change that... so bend over and accept it - like a man

Ryanair to pull out of CWL
 

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This has been posted elsewhere, but is also relevant to this topic.
As of may 1st, ryanair will cease the DUB-CWL route and all flights will now go from Bristol.

Still 4 LTN based aircraft but no spare stands for night stoppers until 2007/2008 now that easyjet has taken what was left.

Ryanair Waves Goodbye to Cardiff
 

RYANAIR ANNOUNCES CLOSURE OF DUBLIN - CARDIFF ROUTE

Ryanair, Europe's leading low fares airline, today (April 25, 2006) announced the cessation of its service from Dublin to Cardiff and the transfer of these services to Bristol International Airport with effect from Monday next, 1 May.

Ryanair's five-year agreement with Cardiff Airport was due for renewal on that date but the airport has insisted on increasing its passenger charges by over 350%. In addition, the airport has reneged on elements of its current contract and is attempting to force Ryanair to pay extra charges for services which were covered under that contract.

Announcing the decision, Ryanair's Deputy Chief Executive Michael Cawley said: "Cardiff Airport is pricing itself out of the low fares market. Cost increases of the order of 350% belong to an era when the lowest air fare from Ireland to the UK was €250.

"Ryanair has a wide choice of competitive airports available to it and, with effect from Monday next, 1 May, we will be transferring these services to Bristol International Airport and, for those flights up to 10 May, Ryanair will provide coach services between the two airports.

"In addition, we will be offering refunds to any passengers who have already booked on these Cardiff flights and who don't wish to travel to Bristol. We very much regret the inconvenience caused to our passengers but we are not prepared to tolerate these levels of cost increase on their behalf from airports whose only interest seems to be to gouge passengers with extortionate price increases."

Cardiff Airport replied:

Cardiff – Dublin services

Cardiff International Airport has become the latest in a string of airports to come under attack from Ryanair – in March it was Ireland’s Cork Airport; earlier in April, Stansted was in their sights.

Statements by the airline about their contract with Cardiff International Airport are incorrect but they are renowned for taking up such positions and have done this with a number of airports in the UK and their native Ireland.

In fact, charges proposed by Cardiff International were less than the average that Ryanair publicly admits it pays across Europe.

Dublin-bound passengers left in the lurch by Ryanair need not worry. Award-winning airline Aer Arann have this evening confirmed that they will take over the lucrative 180,000 passengers-a-year Cardiff-Dublin route with a twice-daily service from next week. Fares from £19.99 one way including taxes will be offered on Aer Arann’s new service..

Aer Arann have already taken over Cardiff-Cork, announced new services to Lorient and is expected to announce a Cardiff – Galway service tomorrow.

Ryanair axe Cardiff - Dublin
 

Ryanair, Europe’s leading low fares airline, today announced the cessation of its service from Dublin to Cardiff and the transfer of these services to Bristol International Airport with effect from Monday next, 1st May. Ryanair’s five year agreement with Cardiff Airport was due for renewal on that date but the airport has insisted on increasing its passenger charges by over 350%. In addition, the airport has reneged on elements of its current contract and is attempting to force Ryanair to pay extra charges for services which were covered under that contract.
Announcing the decision Ryanair’s Deputy Chief Executive, Michael Cawley, said,
“Cardiff Airport is pricing itself out of the low fares market. Cost increases of the order of 350% belong to an era when the lowest air fare from Ireland to the UK was €250. Ryanair has a wide choice of competitive airports available to it and, with effect from Monday next, 1st May, we will be transferring these services to Bristol International Airport. For those flights up to the 10th May Ryanair will provide coach services between the two airports.
In addition we will be offering refunds to any passengers who have already booked on these Cardiff flights and who don’t wish to travel to Bristol. We very much regret the inconvenience caused to our passengers but we are not prepared to tolerate these levels of cost increases on their behalf from airports whose only interest seems to be to gouge passengers with extortionate price increases. ”


Congratulations to the mngt at CWL, one airline gone out of business and another pulled out, all in the space of a week. All the pax will just go to Bristol and reap all passenger numbers altogether. The low cost revolution is something Airports should grasp and welcome, Cardiff seem to be pushing the Loco's away with fee increases. Isn't it time JH retired?

:ok:

Aer Arann are set to pick it up with a twice daily starting at £19.99 - quick move !

Strange response, Q40099. One daily rotation goes, replaced by at least two plus another route into the bargain. And at what Ryanair claims is its average airport charge across Europe. Plus a REAL £19.99 fare includes taxes. Not a bad result at all.

Anyone who is asked to accept a Bristol flight instead can, of course, claim up to 250 euros compensation, I think. Plus a seat on the Aer Arann service.