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Ivan aromer 20th Oct 2005 12:31

Channex Redundantcies
 
After many rumours, all hotly denied by management, the A300s of Channel Express are on the way out sooner rather than later.:
IMHO the management have treated a loyal and professional workforce with an arrogant disdain which is breathtaking. Being economic with the truth doesn't even come close. My fellow A300 ground and F/E are now all looking for other employment. I understand that the Pilots may be offered jobs on the B737 or 757. Well I suppose they should be thankful for that but who in their right mind would trust such management again?

TwoDots 20th Oct 2005 12:35

Isn't Mr Meason the one who demands absolute loyalty from his troops ?

fokker 20th Oct 2005 14:56

Sorry to hear that; I know only too well how it feels. So (relatively) soon after the F27 debacle, too. Good luck to one and all in finding new positions.

I sincerely hope that RB, the Flight Ops head, is not implicated in any dishonesty. Having known, admired and respected him for the thick end of 20 years, I shall be truly saddened if he has gone the way of all managers.

Again, good luck guys and gals.






BTW: You could always try asking Mr M whether he's tried any new Keith Floyd recipes recently....................................








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hec7or 20th Oct 2005 18:24

This is to certify that RB is an extremely good bloke.

Cee of Gee 20th Oct 2005 19:21

Sorry to hear that bad news.

Has it been made official?

Best of luck to all the air/ ground crews involved.

Cee of Gee.

Bus429 21st Oct 2005 07:35

Ivan - sad news (one of your engineering managers is ex-MAEL, is he not?) - on the upside, there are loads of jobs. If based at Bournemouth, you may only have to scoot across the airport.

simufly 24th Oct 2005 14:15

The dust is slowly settling: a very sad story for all concerned.

Sub rosa 27th Oct 2005 23:48

Jet 2/Channel.

They will be gone in 2 years.......

You heard it here!

faq 28th Oct 2005 00:20

Hi Sub Rosa,

Could you explain your reasons for stating this? I don't agree or disgaree with your comment, nor am I seeking to rubbish it.

I wondered what on information you had formed your opinion on? Perhaps you are an 'insider' with more information than the rest of us have access to.

Thanks

Faq

trainer too 2 28th Oct 2005 07:58

Sub Rosa

All your posts on Pprune have been about slagging of Channex / Jet2.... :yuk:

This is a company that only will stop to exist when it is sold of for a lot of money. :oh: This is one of the few airlines in Europe that have been making money since the beginning and existed over 15 years (I think that Martinair in the Netherlands is the other one but they had two years with losses)

So what is your problem with them. That is probably more interesting to know...
:hmm:

Good luck to all the FE's and Loadies involved!

Bof 28th Oct 2005 22:01

Channex redundancies
 
Really!! Take a look at the last posted results of Dart Group, I think Fork you are on another planet. I think "the street you are getting the word" from needs updating!

unwiseowl 30th Oct 2005 13:09

Just took a look at Dart Group profit figures: Looks very poor when you consider that it was generated by 25 jets, 650 trucks and a warehousing operation. If each truck made £21k net profit that would leave zero from the jets and the warehouses.

I'd think it highly likely that one part of the group is not making any profit. If PM spends all his time at the LoCo I'd guess it was that?

4screwsaircrew 31st Oct 2005 00:23

Sub rosa,

As ever, comments without justification.

The B757 is the future of Jet2 and low cost operations in Europe. The aircraft is ideal for longer routes such as Tenerife and Southern Europe.

The operating costs are similar to the B737-800 but the aircraft are much cheaper to buy and can carry a lot more passengers.

PM is a shrewed businessman who takes care of loyal employees. The company has been doing great for the last 20 years and is sure to continue.

captain coldfront 31st Oct 2005 09:38

'PM is a shrewed businessman who takes care of loyal employees'.

Sorry? Just exactly which version of history do you subscribe to?

Ask the loyal employees from the Electra or the F27's how they were 'taken care of'.

Riverboat 1st Nov 2005 00:34

I think it is fair to state that PM has always run a tight ship, and the company has managed to survive for many years ina precarious business. Making nasty accusations about his parentage because the company no longer feels able to make money out of A300 operations, and they are planning to get out of those, says more about the writer than PM.

Think about it: we are in a heavily regulated capitalist society where entrepreneurs are expected to set up businesses and, against all the odds, succeed in employing more and more people every year.

Channex hav achieved that, and I don't think complaining about the departure of L188s and F27s, and now A300s, is at all valid. Channex might well have gone doen the plug-hole if they had stayed with these aircraft, and even if they hadn't, they would not have expanded and employed so many more pilots and cabin staff than they have.

Channel/Jet 2 are a success story, and they, and PM are due considerable credit.

alibaba 1st Nov 2005 10:24

Running Costs of 757 and 737-800? I would side with 737-800 being a heck of a alot cheaper to run. Seating well 189 in 737-800 not sure what it is in the 757, 210 maybe? 757's are not cheap to buy or lease either.

It is a gorgous a/c though.

Just an opinion.

:8

jet2impress 2nd Nov 2005 15:41

228 seats on the Jet2 757's

redmech 3rd Nov 2005 15:04

Plus when PM is buying 757's he gets some 737's for free what an offer, best put me down for some while the offer still stands.:)

4Screwaircrew 3rd Nov 2005 20:53

4who?
 
Not going to comment about the redundancies, but would like to make the point that 4screwsaircrew registered October 2005 is not 4Screwaircrew and that comments made by that poster should not be attributed to me, which seems to be the intent.

Thank you

757manipulator 4th Nov 2005 00:56

Alibab...compare prices..and lease rates buddy..you'll find the 757 is quite a bit cheaper to aquire...running costs are comparible on a seat by seat basis, plus the 757 can carry around 25% more revenue payload further....from a shorter runway;)

It also has 3 autopilots..compared to 2 in the 800 (I was told that..so Im taking the A/P number in the 800 on face value)


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