Channex Redundantcies
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Channex Redundantcies
After many rumours, all hotly denied by management, the A300s of Channel Express are on the way out sooner rather than later.:
IMHO the management have treated a loyal and professional workforce with an arrogant disdain which is breathtaking. Being economic with the truth doesn't even come close. My fellow A300 ground and F/E are now all looking for other employment. I understand that the Pilots may be offered jobs on the B737 or 757. Well I suppose they should be thankful for that but who in their right mind would trust such management again?
IMHO the management have treated a loyal and professional workforce with an arrogant disdain which is breathtaking. Being economic with the truth doesn't even come close. My fellow A300 ground and F/E are now all looking for other employment. I understand that the Pilots may be offered jobs on the B737 or 757. Well I suppose they should be thankful for that but who in their right mind would trust such management again?
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Well, this is cheaper than a Personal Title!
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry to hear that; I know only too well how it feels. So (relatively) soon after the F27 debacle, too. Good luck to one and all in finding new positions.
I sincerely hope that RB, the Flight Ops head, is not implicated in any dishonesty. Having known, admired and respected him for the thick end of 20 years, I shall be truly saddened if he has gone the way of all managers.
Again, good luck guys and gals.
BTW: You could always try asking Mr M whether he's tried any new Keith Floyd recipes recently....................................
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't seen me, right?
I sincerely hope that RB, the Flight Ops head, is not implicated in any dishonesty. Having known, admired and respected him for the thick end of 20 years, I shall be truly saddened if he has gone the way of all managers.
Again, good luck guys and gals.
BTW: You could always try asking Mr M whether he's tried any new Keith Floyd recipes recently....................................
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't seen me, right?
Pilots' Pal
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: USA
Age: 63
Posts: 1,158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ivan - sad news (one of your engineering managers is ex-MAEL, is he not?) - on the upside, there are loads of jobs. If based at Bournemouth, you may only have to scoot across the airport.
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: EU
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Sub Rosa,
Could you explain your reasons for stating this? I don't agree or disgaree with your comment, nor am I seeking to rubbish it.
I wondered what on information you had formed your opinion on? Perhaps you are an 'insider' with more information than the rest of us have access to.
Thanks
Faq
Could you explain your reasons for stating this? I don't agree or disgaree with your comment, nor am I seeking to rubbish it.
I wondered what on information you had formed your opinion on? Perhaps you are an 'insider' with more information than the rest of us have access to.
Thanks
Faq
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Never diverting!
Posts: 377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sub Rosa
All your posts on Pprune have been about slagging of Channex / Jet2....
This is a company that only will stop to exist when it is sold of for a lot of money. This is one of the few airlines in Europe that have been making money since the beginning and existed over 15 years (I think that Martinair in the Netherlands is the other one but they had two years with losses)
So what is your problem with them. That is probably more interesting to know...
Good luck to all the FE's and Loadies involved!
All your posts on Pprune have been about slagging of Channex / Jet2....
This is a company that only will stop to exist when it is sold of for a lot of money. This is one of the few airlines in Europe that have been making money since the beginning and existed over 15 years (I think that Martinair in the Netherlands is the other one but they had two years with losses)
So what is your problem with them. That is probably more interesting to know...
Good luck to all the FE's and Loadies involved!
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Channex redundancies
Really!! Take a look at the last posted results of Dart Group, I think Fork you are on another planet. I think "the street you are getting the word" from needs updating!
stilljustanothernumber
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: the night sky
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just took a look at Dart Group profit figures: Looks very poor when you consider that it was generated by 25 jets, 650 trucks and a warehousing operation. If each truck made £21k net profit that would leave zero from the jets and the warehouses.
I'd think it highly likely that one part of the group is not making any profit. If PM spends all his time at the LoCo I'd guess it was that?
I'd think it highly likely that one part of the group is not making any profit. If PM spends all his time at the LoCo I'd guess it was that?
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: STN
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sub rosa,
As ever, comments without justification.
The B757 is the future of Jet2 and low cost operations in Europe. The aircraft is ideal for longer routes such as Tenerife and Southern Europe.
The operating costs are similar to the B737-800 but the aircraft are much cheaper to buy and can carry a lot more passengers.
PM is a shrewed businessman who takes care of loyal employees. The company has been doing great for the last 20 years and is sure to continue.
As ever, comments without justification.
The B757 is the future of Jet2 and low cost operations in Europe. The aircraft is ideal for longer routes such as Tenerife and Southern Europe.
The operating costs are similar to the B737-800 but the aircraft are much cheaper to buy and can carry a lot more passengers.
PM is a shrewed businessman who takes care of loyal employees. The company has been doing great for the last 20 years and is sure to continue.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: wherever it was they sent me
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
'PM is a shrewed businessman who takes care of loyal employees'.
Sorry? Just exactly which version of history do you subscribe to?
Ask the loyal employees from the Electra or the F27's how they were 'taken care of'.
Sorry? Just exactly which version of history do you subscribe to?
Ask the loyal employees from the Electra or the F27's how they were 'taken care of'.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Morton-in-Marsh
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think it is fair to state that PM has always run a tight ship, and the company has managed to survive for many years ina precarious business. Making nasty accusations about his parentage because the company no longer feels able to make money out of A300 operations, and they are planning to get out of those, says more about the writer than PM.
Think about it: we are in a heavily regulated capitalist society where entrepreneurs are expected to set up businesses and, against all the odds, succeed in employing more and more people every year.
Channex hav achieved that, and I don't think complaining about the departure of L188s and F27s, and now A300s, is at all valid. Channex might well have gone doen the plug-hole if they had stayed with these aircraft, and even if they hadn't, they would not have expanded and employed so many more pilots and cabin staff than they have.
Channel/Jet 2 are a success story, and they, and PM are due considerable credit.
Think about it: we are in a heavily regulated capitalist society where entrepreneurs are expected to set up businesses and, against all the odds, succeed in employing more and more people every year.
Channex hav achieved that, and I don't think complaining about the departure of L188s and F27s, and now A300s, is at all valid. Channex might well have gone doen the plug-hole if they had stayed with these aircraft, and even if they hadn't, they would not have expanded and employed so many more pilots and cabin staff than they have.
Channel/Jet 2 are a success story, and they, and PM are due considerable credit.
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Running Costs of 757 and 737-800? I would side with 737-800 being a heck of a alot cheaper to run. Seating well 189 in 737-800 not sure what it is in the 757, 210 maybe? 757's are not cheap to buy or lease either.
It is a gorgous a/c though.
Just an opinion.
It is a gorgous a/c though.
Just an opinion.
4who?
Not going to comment about the redundancies, but would like to make the point that 4screwsaircrew registered October 2005 is not 4Screwaircrew and that comments made by that poster should not be attributed to me, which seems to be the intent.
Thank you
Thank you
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: planet igloo
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Alibab...compare prices..and lease rates buddy..you'll find the 757 is quite a bit cheaper to aquire...running costs are comparible on a seat by seat basis, plus the 757 can carry around 25% more revenue payload further....from a shorter runway
It also has 3 autopilots..compared to 2 in the 800 (I was told that..so Im taking the A/P number in the 800 on face value)
It also has 3 autopilots..compared to 2 in the 800 (I was told that..so Im taking the A/P number in the 800 on face value)