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ESCNI 24th Oct 2006 20:54

Not the handiest of diversionary destinations?

:uhoh:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/6082204.stm

Thomas_Cook_757-300 25th Oct 2006 18:58

It looks like MyTravel Airways will be basing an aircraft at Liverpool next Summer with a huge expansion. MyTravel will now operate the following routes:

Alicante
Arrecife
Faro
Las Palmas
Larnaca
Reus
Tenerife South

The only route that looks like a W pattern is REU. Any news on aircraft type?

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Thomas_Cook_757-300

dwlpl 1st Nov 2006 12:39

easyJet carried its 15millionth passenger through Liverpool yesterday just days after the airlines ninth anniversary at Liverpool.

dwlpl 1st Nov 2006 12:58


Originally Posted by webby1919 (Post 2842645)
It will not be a B757 for TFS - the B757 will operate the STN-YHM flights S07.
It is more than likely to be a B736 or B733.


The first flyGlobespan flights left Liverpool today for Tenerife South (via Stansted for the first few weeks) using a 737-800.

dwlpl 26th Nov 2006 12:36

As I understand the Knock stop, at the moment its just an application to gain permission for the Liverpool/New York JFK service to stop there en-route.

But I cannot see anything other than passengers being put off by this routing even though it looks as if its only three per week out of the daily flights.

I also see that for the Liverpool/JFK route:

* they intend to carry passengers between Liverpool and JFK, Knock and JFK AND ALSO Liverpool and Knock.

* seating capacity is approx 183 per flight and are aiming to sell 164 per flight which is 90% of the total.

* revenue is forecast to be $25.3million in the 11 months of operation with expenses being $24million, which produces a profit of $1.3million.

elgan 26th Nov 2006 18:00

With me looking to book a LPL-JFK flight, the NOC stopover will not please me at all, tho maybe for the price, I can't complain!

Centre cities 26th Nov 2006 22:16

New york
 
The request for a NOC stop is interesting.

Does anybody know how the advance sales are going.

Perhaps not to well if they are looking for a stop already.

I can not see 7 per week being economical. Some Tue and Wed flights may struggle.

Centre cities

john11 27th Nov 2006 17:44

why might the tu
 
why might the tue and wed flights struggle,
i cant see it doing to well for 7 a week.were might the stopover be and will it effect any MAN jfk or toronto routes?

Charlie Roy 19th Dec 2006 19:47

Fog
 
I hope this forecast is wrong:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=4570

Otherwise one of Liverpool Airport's busiest weeks of the year is set for severe disruption :ouch:

dwlpl 19th Dec 2006 20:41

With the £24million runway reconstruction work going on the runway lighting has been cut back to CAT I.

We need a bit of wind to blow the fog away.

03 headset man 20th Dec 2006 00:24

cock up
 
well someone has made a big mistake today at liverpool haveing only cat1 fire cover a few flights could have made it in but not enought fire cover due to wip wzz 105 had to divert when he could have made a aproach due to fire cover and other flights as well it was a tough day for all and one which will go down to bad manegment and passengers badly affected but as always they will probaly get a payrise

EI-BUD 20th Dec 2006 03:18

Knock Stop enroute US
 
I understand that Knock Airport were talking to Flyglobespan about US flights , but it seems to have gone quiet. The booking facility for GSM shows only nonstop LPLJFK flights. I checked May& June only though.

The NOC JFK one could do well on a limited schedule given the volume of Irish people and tourists going to the west of Ireland from US. I dont think the stop would be a big issue for Passengers. As for GSM they are operating so many one stop flights. EG Stansted to Canada stops at Different UK airports on alternate days. Surprising given the London area population?

Best of Luck them.

IB4138 20th Dec 2006 04:47

Not a good night for Liverpool.

5 Easyjet based aircraft overnighting in Blackpool and 3 Ryanair at Manchester.

A further 2 aircraft for each of these airlines reported to be at EMA.

As a result there are 13 cancelled flights up to 08.15 this morning.

What a way to run an airport!

If this continues, Easy and Ryan may as well move their operations to Blackpool permanently!

Helen49 20th Dec 2006 07:23

Ib4138
 
It may interest you to know that this is exactly the way to run an airport in the prevailing conditions. The Airport has no control over the weather. Safety is paramount and when weather conditions are below aircraft operating minima, thereby precluding legal (and safe) operations, the international standard procedure is to divert to an airport at which a safe landing can be made.
H49

Vampy 20th Dec 2006 07:32


Not a good night for Liverpool.
5 Easyjet based aircraft overnighting in Blackpool and 3 Ryanair at Manchester.
A further 2 aircraft for each of these airlines reported to be at EMA.
As a result there are 13 cancelled flights up to 08.15 this morning.
What a way to run an airport!
I know! Can you believe it! I mean seriously! What idiot creates fog at an airport in the week before Christmas! I just wish I knew what the managers were thinking when they created the fog!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

IB4138 20th Dec 2006 08:00

Vampy and Helen 49.

Why not read all previous relevant posts on the subject before putting fingers to keyboard?


well someone has made a big mistake today at liverpool haveing only cat1 fire cover a few flights could have made it in but not enought fire cover due to wip wzz 105 had to divert when he could have made a aproach due to fire cover and other flights as well it was a tough day for all and one which will go down to bad manegment and passengers badly affected but as always they will probaly get a payrise
No wonder they want to increase all and sundry charges and charge people for breathing!

Vampy 20th Dec 2006 08:40

IB4138

Where is there any mention of a reduction in fire cover? There are no NOTAMs out for today saying as such, do you know if there was yesterday?

The only NOTAM relevant that I can see, is to do with the fact that there is no centreline lighting at the moment due to the runway WIP. This would make the airport Cat 1 as dictated by CAP168.

Helen49 20th Dec 2006 08:48

Perhaps some people don't understand the difference between Fire Cat 1 and ILS Cat 1????
H49

Friio4 20th Dec 2006 09:40

The ILS has been downgraded to CAT1, usually CAT2. This is due to extensive runway and lighting work. Therefore the RVR minima is 550m. The RVR was less than that for most of yesterday, hence the disruption.
Nothing to do with fire cover, increasing charges or badly run airports.

dwlpl 20th Dec 2006 10:44


Originally Posted by IB4138 (Post 3029018)
Not a good night for Liverpool.
5 Easyjet based aircraft overnighting in Blackpool and 3 Ryanair at Manchester.
A further 2 aircraft for each of these airlines reported to be at EMA.
As a result there are 13 cancelled flights up to 08.15 this morning.
What a way to run an airport!
If this continues, Easy and Ryan may as well move their operations to Blackpool permanently!


I have heard it all now.

I now managers in all walks of life cop the blame for all kinds of things but getting blamed for the weather must be one of the best ever.


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