Them load factors don't look too good, but then whats the NCL - Milan lf :p

The Newquay flight doesn't start until Friday, and I hope it does better than Belfast!

Flybe have been looking at a MME-BHD route for a while now, and apparently have contacted DTV a number of times :confused:

I agree, we need a lot more Charters in the winter, the present 3 a week is not good enough! :ouch:

Apparently the new terminal could be open by 2007, and the new stands they are promising will be to the west of Stand 1(L)

mmeteesside

March - 6716
April - 6841

Whats your point?

The point is that Ryanair are currently playing off MME against NCL to decide which should get it's North East base, and it looks like NCL is going to win with those numbers :(

mmeteesside

mmeteesside / onion

Intersting views on how the airport is percieved by staff and that flybe have 'been in touch', what is the basis of this?

Also who says Ryanair are playing off MME and NCL? NCL - BGO maybe outperforming MME - CIA but then again MME - CIA is competing against EZY on NCL... BGO has a free run so hardly a like for like comparison?

I dont think Ryanair is playing the airports off against one another, i would have thought they are getting the best possible deal already. I also dont think the pax numbers on the above routes will have much of a baring on any possible base, LBA outperforming NCL and MME on the Dublin route.

Not surprising LBA is outperfoming MME and NCL on the Ryanair Dublin route, LBA has 3 flights a day as opposed to Newcastles 2 and Durhams 1.

I never realised MME was getting a new terminal.:eek:

The Journal this morning

The north east is set to expand with cheap flights thanks to ryanair.

upto 4 based aircraft in north east the same kind of operation as liverpool.

ryanair will not say which airport for the time being....

(could be 2 each.... nice thinking..)

blahblahblah the basis of my post was from talking to staff, the view "i'll believe it when I see it" comes up alot at mme.

Regarding ryanair didn't they say last year that they saw no new expansion from Newcastle for the fore seeable future! Could be wrong though.

HRH Prince Andrew at MME today looking at the plans for the new terminal and airport expansion.

Baby have confirmed the 2nd based 737 for next summer. FlyBe is a rumour, don't think it will happen until next year, if at all, due to fleet utilisation & pending aircraft deliveries.
Possibly see more of Air Wales from next summer also.;)

Onion

I believe Ryanair stated last year there would be no expansion at NCL until at least Autumn 2005 as all of their aircraft was utilised.

Bet the Air Wales expansion will be to operate all 4 Cork flights :) Heard they haven't been doing too well, but it's early days I guess. Hopefully they might start a Cardiff flight too!

Good news that baby are basing a second 737 here ;) at last!

It would be good if Ryanair based here, but I just can't see them getting the pax numbers required for 4 based aircraft, where would they all come from??

I think Flybe might start the BHD in the future, short or long, probably long :suspect:

mmeteesside

The Ryanair passengers would come from agressive marketing, which they seem capable of. baby don't seem capable of marketing their operations too much, and thus route after route from MME (and other bases I presume) carries small loads and gets no exposure.

Just look at the number of Jet2 and EasyJet adverts around the Teesside area. People will see them, and their offers, and think "That's a good deal, and Newcastle / Leeds isn't too far to go".

They're not all experts on airlines, so will not naturally know what is available from their local airport unless it is pushed in their face.

MME has a larger catchment area within 1 hour's drive than both NCL and LBA, so the passengers ARE there. We just have to persuade them to fly from here.

Matt

See that baby have announced Gatwick as part of their Winter schedule from MME, anyone see that coming?

Do baby fly any routes out of LGW?

onion

Look at this article:

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/0...l&siteid=50081

Looks as though Newquay will be lost for the winter though.

Not any more. Used to fly to Cork and Prague but ceased recently

WW do not treat MME as if it is a major base. Changing routes and not having good frequencies, particularly on domestic routes adds to the problem as they are unlikely to attract business travellers. When I travel EZY or BE to Belfast at least 50% are business traveller - this is even higher on the BRS route for the early morning flight.

My only concern is that despite the high catchment area, which I'm not disputing, will other airlines look at MME and think if WW couldn't make it work will we be able to?

The Gatwick probably won't work, just look at the timings for the 'business route', leaves DurhamTeesValley at 1840 on a Sunday - Friday, and on a morning on a Saturday! This is to cover for the loss of the Newquay and Jersey routes over the winter (as far as I can see) :rolleyes:

They should announce further new routes soon, or increase frequencies on the Alicante, Palma and any other routes :confused:

C'mon baby, try and play it proper, or give someone else a go!

mmeteesside

Is it just me, or will WW flying to LGW compete directly with parent BD's LHR service (which has been advertising low-cost fares of around £30 each way lately)?

Matt