Yep.......5th......the 6th is an EDI based a/c the ops EDI-BRS-CDG-BRS-EDI 2x daily...........duh

The local BBC and ITV News both did lengthy items on the BACx new routes, inevitably finding some locals to bemoan their ill luck at living near an airport that, to listen to them, you would think was bordering on Heathrow size (doubtless they moved in knowing the airport was just up the road anyway).

Both reports suggested that even more routes would be announced in the near future - don't know if this was conjecture or whether the reporters have some good informants.

After all the talk in this thread re new routes there appears to be surprisingly little reaction now they have been announced.

My question is this. How soon before a lack of aircraft parking space becomes a bar to further expansion?

I believe the main (Eastern) apron can accommodate sixteen airliners (lovely old fashioned term) and the newly available Western apron (former GA parking area) some more, but I don't know how many more.

There will be seven easyJet 737s, five BACx ERJ145s, a SN Brussels RJ 85, a KLM Cityhopper F 70, plus several based charter a/c potentially looking to overnight come the summer.

It may be that some of the charter a/c will be away on night charters and the timetable suggests one of the ERJs might overnight at FRA. However, the place will still be very busy.

Good luck to Bristol and I hope the expansion continues.

Nothing more annoying than these idiots who move near an airport and then complain about the news. If they were there before the airport then fair enough, but otherwise, wind your neck in and let the place expand.

TIO

I really hpe BRS does well, as in a few months I hope to be moving to BRS and looking after CO....

Bacx will have 6 based aircraft at brs from the 4 apr. At the moment they have 5 with 3 night stopping there 1 night stopping in edi and 1 as a spare which is normally in use. The new aircraft will night stop in FRA.

The new website should be up and running in the next couple of weeks.

This summer is gona be so much fun, bring it on ha, limited stands which probably means the operators with the bigger a/c are gona be pushed up on to Western apron so to leave the front stands for the EZY'S, poor old BY/FCA/CO, Oh well at least they're have each other ha ha, seroiusly though its going to be hectic in BRS, i hope that the new stands on W apron will be self moneuvering because even on stands 1,2,3 you are sometimes waiting 20 mins after doors closed for a tug. I know the S-air lads and lasses do their best, but i'm sure it would lighten the load if the planes could self push from there, does anybody know?
Also there is going to be mass problems with gates as BRS only has 8 of them!! and were denied planning permission to build some holding lounges, seems strange, so with 16 new check-in desks, an extention to baggage reclaim, a big apron overhaul, another BA based and possibility of more EZY's, the new Excel and Air Malta programmes, the CO, and 3 very busy programmes from FCA/BY/MYT, plus the other schedules and visiting charters, and they expect us to deal with it all with 8 gates??
If anyone reading has ever been to BRS on a Sat morning in the summer, they'll understand what i'm getting at, summer 04 BRS had about 7 PMI flights in the space of 4 hours to start with and when you add on all the others that depart in that 4 hrs it's a complete mare - Apparently the ground staff have all chipped in to buy stocks of Valium ha ha! so can i just say to all flight deck, please take it easy on the minions this summer and blame the council for not allowing the lounge/gate extention, ha ha.
Good Luck and God Bless to us all:bored:

terrier 21.

Trust me.....It'll be the 5th 145 to be based there...not the 6th......current weekday rotations...

BRS-CDG-BRS-CDG-BRS-FRA-BRS-GLA
GLA-BRS-GLA-BRS-GLA-BRS-CDG-BRS
BRS-EDI-BRS-JER-BRS-EDI-BRS-EDI-BRS
BRS-GLA-BRS-MUC-BRS-GLA-BRS

EDI based a/c

EDI-BRS-CDG-BRS-EDI-BRS-CDG-BRS-EDI


any other 145's will be on maintenance from other bases.

and being ex- BRYMON I really hope BRS to well.....they're making money.....

Has anyone else heard a rumour about some sort of BRS - London route, someone mentioned to me a poss of LCY, the nearest we have at the mo would be LGW via PLY with WOW, I know a BRS-LHR would be fairly pointless as it can be driven quickly, but surely theres gota be a business market for an LCY or STN route?:confused:

Unfortunately not, if the experiences of Cardiff, Swansea, Sheffield, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Belfast City, and currently Leeds are anything to go by.

Bristol must have one of the most frequent rail services to the capital of any city in the country.

There is a half-hourly service throughout the day in both directions between Temple Meads and Paddington (via Bath) and an almost as frequent service from Parkway in the north of the city using South Wales trains to/from Paddington (via Badminton).There is even a direct four trains a day service from Temple Meads to/from Waterloo (via Salisbury).

Add in the numerous express coaches travelling up and down the M 4 daily and I would have thought that surface public transport more than adequately caters for those who do not wish to use their own car.

Train journey times are typically 90-100 minutes. Could an air service beat this having regard to travelling to the airport, checking in, taxiing at either end as well as the flight itself?

Confirmed Must Ride. I wanted to ask whats happening with CO at Brs ref staffing. Checked the website a few weeks ago but no advert. Are S-air looking after them or will they have there own conceirge like in BHX. It would be interesting to know whats happening. It will be interesting to see how they cope with the ramp on busy occasions. Unless things have improved in the last 3 years it was quite often not unusual to wait 10 mins for a tug. So when its packed god knows.

Brgds

SJD

What about EUjet to Manston?

We are still waiting to see what the final contracts say. I know that most decision makers are having to split their time between BRS and the other 4 announced routes. I do expect most things to be sorted by end Feb - at least for BRS.

All advertising for staff for BRS has been for Airport Manager/Supervisor/Lead Agent - nothing else has been asked for as yet.

I heard the same info as the above, but i also heard they've only signed for a year contract at the mo, so peeps who are going to apply for said positions should be wary, if it doesn't work out or something happens to CO as lets face it, they're not the most stable US carrier - you could be after a new job, and certainly with my company, once you've left, you loose all your continued service benefits and in the travel industry there's nothing concrete to say they can take you back imediatley, but thats the risk i spose:confused:

Sorry to harp on about CO again but just been told this morning by quite a reliable source on the ramp 'not tomato i might add' that part of the BIA/CO deal is that they are guarenteed a front stand either 2 or 3 - amazing what you can find out when you work at stupid o clock in the morning! bang goes my earlier theory of it going up on the western apron with the FCA's and BY's leaving the front stands for the EZY's then, make way make way yanks coming through!!!! - well i spose it is the jewell in BRS's crown.
Talking of pretigious routes, anyone heard anymore about the CWL-DXB that there was supposedly ment to be an iminent announcement about, haven't seen nor heard anymore on this for about 2 months now, take it the Sheikh has decided against it now, sod it bring it into BRS on a W with DUB is what i say, well could be intresting watching it trying to stop before it hits the pier in Weston-Super-Mud.
:E

WATABENCH

I have to agree - what about the 'regulars'. They have supplied BRS with passengers for years long before the likes of EZY and the Ryanairs etc. Its the usual thing - pull the ladder up and sod the rest!

I hear that both Qantas and Indian have been eyeing up the land where sheep get nervous for a daily Sydney and New Delhi respectively!
Also heard a rumour the other day down the coal mine that Air Wales have been eyeing up the new A380 - for a possible order of 20 a/c with options on another 450. They are going to offer self catering packages on single class high density aircraft, to exotic locations such as Reus and Corfu! God bless us all - better stock up on shell suits now before the rush!

;)

I was told by someone who works for Servisair that the COA B752 will have to be parked on the Western apron as it cannot go on 1 2 or 3; wingtip clearance issues (guessing thats down to the addition of winglets). Though that could be incorrect info...

It cant go on stand 1 with or without winglets.
I wouldnt have thought they would affect stands 2 & 3.

Air Malta 1 x weekly scheduled service to Malta

KM239/238 Thursdays
BRS-MLA 1830 2245
MLA-BRS 1520 1745

Flights start 5th May

Also KM Scheduled flights from CWL, EMA and NCL

Why can't it go on stand 1 then?

grahamk are km having a bristol base or will it be w patterns??i know they had a brs base in 2003 when it was air azzura :ok:

Dunno, just know about the new scheduled flight

I have a BIA Apron layout map and that says A321 on stand 1, B752 on 2 and 3.....
Noisy- Have to say, I thought they could go on 1 but if I think back, I cant rememebr the last time I saw one on stand 1...You can always keep watch from the birds nest and let us know ;).
Dan.

ATCO1987

It was 2 weeks ago on a SAT the 3 BY's were on stands 1,2 and 3.

FB

757's do fit on and have been parked on stand 1 but there's an isue with the ILS transitional slope especially in bad weather conditions. The tail-plane of the a/c interferes with the ILS in poor weather - this is why 757's don't go on stand one all that often. As far as I know no airline will be given priority for any particular stand: if the a/c is on the ground for three or four hours or goes tech or the like, it'll probably be banished to the W apron! (unless you're HH, in which case you'll be banished to stand 12!). Have the airport arranged some special financial deal to allow this HH a/c to park here for most of the winter? Does anyone know?

I knew of B752s being parked on 1, just not for a while is what I meant....so I was slightly confused <G>.
I had been told about the transitional surface issue whilst on work experience recently, but my brain isnt working all that well....maybe being brought up in Bristol isnt all that good after all <G>.

Obviously not!:}

If Servisair want a 75 on stand 1 they have to contact us to ask permission. We only let them do it if there is absolutely no risk of CATIII conditions, which explains why we don't give them the nod very often.

What i can't figure out in my head is the fact that the CO looking at the flight times is going to be hogging a front stand for nearly 2.5 hours each day, I've known S-air to have a go at us and push us off a front stand and have us sit somewhere else because we missed a slot and they wanted stand 1 for an FR 737, when there were plenty of other stands available, can't see them doing this to CO and as Windsheer raised, i hope they treat the old regulars that have stuck with BRS for years well, FCA/BY/BA/KL.
I'm sure they will but its an interesting subject hearing all the different views on it.;)

W: ref. the slot argument: the front stands are nearest to the terminal and don't need coaching, so I guess it's reasonable to assume that S/Air would rather not have an a/c parked on a front stand for hours on end and have to turn round x other flights on remote??? Have your poxy slot delay somewhere else! (Only joking honest!)


:ok:

Update on the extension works.

The Passenger pick up car parks new entrance and exit barriers have been opened up and are now in use making it alot easier to use. The checkin and arrivals extensions are now well under way and are being connected to the airports main frame as I write.

The Food village is now open 24hrs providing hot food around the clock.

Still no news from easy staff re new routes. Heard rumours of a couple of extra flybe destinations and the Aer Lingus SNN. Why not try to bring in the DXB service that CWL failed in. Also any ideas why there isnt a weekley BGI flight, we know it can operate direct surely there must be plenty of takers out there!

Also does anyone know why the BY SSH service only operates in the winter.

Cheers T21

PS. Airlines can request that their aircraft are put on front stands.

terrier21, SSH is more of a winter sun destination, although a few UK airports will have flights to it in the summer such as TCX from NCL, and other flights from MAN,LGW,GLA and BHX.

As for EK to DXB, pretty sure you wont get an A332 operating nonstop with a decent load out of BRS anyway

Cannot check SSH loads from BRS because in the CAA stats Egypt section BRS, along with other smaller provincial UK airports, is merely grouped under 'other routes'.

Some months ago Britannia announced a SSH weekly flight from CWL next winter. The publicity blurb from the Tui people (not unnaturally supported by the CWL management) said something along the lines of what a great opportunity this was at last for Welsh and West of England people to enjoy the delights of Egypt from a local airport.

Tui seemed to forget they already have a route to SSH this winter from BRS unless of course they intend switching it to CWL next winter.

As for Dubai, what is the sudden attraction of this place? Is it merely a leisure destination because I can't imagine there are many potential business pax from this neck of the woods.

And was the rumoured CWL-DXB going to be a daily one?

As for SNN from BRS, it would be nice to get a decent ORK service beyond the Aer Arann three weekly rotations.

I was told a couple of months ago by a reliable source that Flybe were going to increase routes and/or frequencies from BRS, although nothing specific was stated because the person concerned rightly could not break confidences.

On another thread it is being suggested that easyJet's supposed plan to base another three 737s at BRS (making ten) is being delayed because the airport cannot accommodate them. Don't know the truth of the plan or the sticking point.

MV, I think it's not just Dubai, but EK have built up a good hub at DXB in which passengers from Europe can connect through to Asia, Africa and Australasia from, and v.v
Saying that though, there will be a number of people flying only to Dubai

What is the difference in distance between DXB and EWR?

There Is room at Brs for more based Aircraft and the extension to the W apron will increase this more.

At the end of the day you dont necessarily need based aircraft to operate more routes, SXF for example.

T21

Terrier21

Am i right in thinking that BY-BGI operated without fuel stop but with only 2/3 load? i imagine their 767s are quite heavy as well as they're gettin on a bit i think.
But talking of caribbean/florida routes, there has been rumours of FCA bringing in one of their new 767s(dont know if it would be based)which are more lightweight than the 2 763s currently being operated by them, and with the new seating plans on board with more legroom which means they're cutting down from approx 330 pax to 250 pax, could this be the key to long haul from BRS? maybe they might link it with DUB for example BRS-DUB-SFB, any views on this? I think it could be a very good move for FCA if it could work, they're 321 loads on short haul are always busy and they are BRS's busiest charter and also have a great influence in the South west thru the First Choice retail shops(ex Bakers Dolphin) theres certainly a market for it in the South West.
Maybe EK might look at a similar thing via DUB or something, i dont think theres enough demand for a daily DXB from BRS, but certainly 2-3 times a week.
The futures bright, the futures Bristol - yeah rite!!;)

Not a lot I don't think, but between the Take off performace of a 757 and an A332, I think you'll agree there is quite a difference :cool:

WATABENCH

If an airline is to run such a route from BRS via another UK or Irish airport does it matter much what equipment is used because it would only be a short hop from BRS to that other airport where a full load of fuel could be taken on board?

If on the other hand an airline brings in a/c capable of flying to Florida non-stop from BRS why the need to call at an intermediate airport? I have no doubt whatever that the BRS catchment would support such a flight (or flights) on its own, although I have to say that Mr and Mrs MV would not be interested.

Graham

Thanks for info re Dubai. AMS and to a lesser extent CDG are very good hubs for intercontinental travel from BRS - I know from personal experience of the former many times.

Whether there is a need for another, even if an a/c could operate from BRS to DXB, must be a moot point, and certainly not on a daily basis.

There were rumours sometime ago of EK at NCL. I doubt NCL could fill a daily flight but maybe a NCL-BRS-DXB rotation.

You'd be surprisedn but i think EK could fill an A332 at least 4 or 5 times weekly from NCL.
Whether they could do that from BRS I dunno

I've been having a dig around the Easyjet website looking for flights from BRS in August tonight.

Flights to/from the current destinations aren't too different though times and flight numbers have changed.

Of note though, NCE and PMI are both daily without any reductions to other flights, this would (?) suggest another based aircraft. I can't see that there's enough slack in the winter timetable to do the additional flights daily.

Andy