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Fernando_Covas 3rd Sep 2005 12:53

Redfield.....

You can have 2 handling agents working in tandem with each other. Take Windsheer's base at Cardiff. There are two handling agents there. Servisair run front of house and all ramp operations (as Airway Handling) whilst Aviance only provide front of house and grooming services. Same works with BA at Bristol. Servisair provide ramp services whilst they provide their own front of house staff.

a bristolian 3rd Sep 2005 18:53

Extra ski flight this Winter - Austrian Dash 8 -400 ops Saturday from Dec to Bolzano.

This in addition to the increase on EZY's GVA to twice daily and 16 other weekly ski charters.

Just hope theres some snow now!

redfield 3rd Sep 2005 21:36

Fernando: I know - I work there. I was referring to Swissport/Menzies etc - the possibility of an outside agent coming in.

I'm not looking forward to Austrian Dash 8's this winter. Doubt all the bags will fit in especially not the skis! :ugh:

Ranger 1 4th Sep 2005 01:05

It will be interesting to see if the Ski's & bags & boots fit, I guess the Austrian's have thought of this before they Got the Q400's in the first place:hmm:

redfield 4th Sep 2005 14:33

They never all used to fit in a Tyrolean Fokker 70 when I handled them some years ago, most of them went on the KLM the next morning!

Ranger 1 4th Sep 2005 18:40

Certainly can remeber them not fitting well on their CRJ's as for the FK70 I believe they fitted OK in the front hold without too many probs:ok:

rampboy767 4th Sep 2005 20:12

The Flybe Dash-8s holds 6 and 7 are S**T for bags and bikes like on the EGC and BOD. The 146s are no better coz the holds are small anyway and the height of the hold doors are low and u can hit your head on the lip of the door. Ill say we will have fun trying to load a Dash 8 with skis n boots on top of bags. I bet there try and get the boots in hold 5 at the front of the aircraft. F70 is better who u kidding, u since the KLM's lately its shocking in those small and narrow holds with huge heavy bags. Going back to the S'air its just lack of staff or maning levels that causing us the most bother. Its really busy at BRS at the mom and the weekends like sunday are terrible to work, everyone at S'air is feed up and unhappy we all work very hard but our work load is so huge. That after a 9 hour day u dont want to stay on 2/3hours to sort out a delayed flights when ur knackered and want to go home.

fly20 5th Sep 2005 15:57

flybe are using the dash-8 on their ext-gva route - apparently it can hold 10 sets of skis.... but with 70+ pax i think there will be a lot of dissapointed people in GVA who have skiing holiday with no skis cos they are still in EXT on standby, until the next flight - the week after..

WATABENCH 5th Sep 2005 16:27

That'll be on the FCA then

Ranger 1 5th Sep 2005 21:09

Rampboy 767 the holds of a FK-70 might be on the tight side, similar to the FK 100'S we used to load, if you have ever loaded a 1-11srs 375 or even loaded a SE 210 Caravelle the worst aircraft ever designed in my opinion with loading in mind.
After loading one of these, in the heat, you would think a DH-8 & FK70 were sheer bliss:cool:
You young'uns got it easy now :E
On a serious note you all do very good job on the apron under the circumstances :ok:

rampboy767 6th Sep 2005 10:55

That may be true, but the holds in some of todays aircarft are no better. These Dash 8s with skis and boots we will see, it just depends on the number of bags and skis to weather how many will be rush bags on the next flights lol :D roll on another busy winter!

redfield 7th Sep 2005 17:41

The FCA and EZY GVA flights will be full of rush skis I think! There's no 9th EZY a/c on the winter sched...anyone from EZY with anything definite re. no. 9 maybe for next summer??

WATABENCH 8th Sep 2005 17:05

Be nice to have enough ramp lads to load them all instead of the dismal effort last winter resulting in muchos loading delays on both flights EZY and FCA

MerchantVenturer 10th Sep 2005 11:15

We used the new easyJet service to Inverness this week. We went up on Sunday and came back yesterday. I was interested to see how many people would use it and was pleased to see the aircraft were comfortably filled. I overheard a cabin staff member say 114 plus 1 on the outbound, and on the inbound yesterday there were only about twenty empty seats.

In fact on the inbound we had an A 319. The Airbus captain told us that the scheduled Boeing 737-700 went tech and that the A 319 and crew were brought in from STN to fly BRS-INV-BRS. Well done easyJet because we arrived back at BRS only seventy minutes late. However, I noted that the morning Pisa was showing a delay of over twelve hours. I believe the INV a/c normally does the PSA rotation before flying to Scotland, so it appears we were very lucky.

One moan about Bristol Airport though. Our delayed flight coincided with the arrival of several other flights and the airport taxi service was overwhelmed. There was clearly an insufficient number of taxis available for such a peak period. The airport taxi service is a monopoly and should be able to cope better than this if it wishes to continue to enjoy such a status. When we eventually got a taxi the driver told us the situation had been thus for most of the afternoon. The remarks of some visitors to the area were less than complimentary towards the airport.

This was compounded by an enormous queue for the ‘Flyer’ coach. Bristol traffic alone will make the ‘every twenty minutes’ schedule difficult, so why at peak times is it left to the driver first to load all the bags then get back on the coach and start taking fares? This can take fifteen minutes at busy periods. It is a regular occurrence. I speak from personal observation. There should be an additional bus company employee at the bus stop to assist at such times.

BRS is poorly served by public transport. What it does have must be worked far more efficiently.

redfield 10th Sep 2005 18:58

MV: You were lucky - the 'bus operated the INV and then the FAO while the PSA a/c was very poorly in PSA....when I left work the PSA crew had been hotac'ed until about 1900z.

hostiegirl 12th Sep 2005 12:52

have to agree with what goes on the otherside as a pax i returned from holiday on a very busy monday morning the road outside is a shambles bad set up someone stood in road directing traffic what a waste of man power. staff bus could not pull in as road blocked with taxi's needs a better system in place.

MerchantVenturer 18th Sep 2005 19:38

Does anyone know the charter flight details for Egypt this coming winter?

The airport website currently has a news item advertising Taba flights from 8 October. An archived news item from July was still talking about a service to Hurghada commencing in the winter, and at one time earlier in the year there was talk of three flights a week to Sharm el Sheikh.

Vasto1M 18th Sep 2005 20:40

MV

Details of the Egyptian flights this winter are, as far as I’m aware…

Taba/TCP:

Saturdays. Depart BRS 1330. Arrive BRS 0135. Flight AEU???/?. Operates 08OCT05 – 19NOV05.

Hurghada/HRG:

Friday. Depart BRS 1000. Arrive BRS 2220. Flight XLA3710/1. Operates 04NOV05 – 09DEC05, 07JAN06 – 28APR06.

Friday. Depart BRS 1200. Arrive BRS 0020. Flight XLA3710/1. Operates 16DEC05 – 30DEC05.

Sharm El Sheikh/SSH:

Saturday. Depart BRS 1200. Arrive BRS 0015. Flight XLA3706/7. Operates 11FEB06 – 29APR06.

Sunday. Depart BRS 1245. Arrive BRS 0100. Flight XLA3714/5. Operates 06NOV05 – 30APR06.

As the XLA flights are in the 3000’s it would suggest that they are to be operated by the Air Malta A320.

MerchantVenturer 18th Sep 2005 21:11

Many thanks, Vasto.

I believe the Air Malta A 320 is operating the current summer weekly XLA flight to Sharm el Sheikh. I presume the other XLA based aircraft, the former Islandsflug B 734, would struggle to get there without a fuel stop.

The Taba flight is a short season.

hostiegirl 19th Sep 2005 03:33

yes air malta are doing all xla's egypt flights even our lovley 800 can't make it from brs!! bad luck km crew heard there is a ssh flight on xmas day!!!!!!!!!

Curious Pax 20th Sep 2005 09:59

Is anyone in the know about the timetable for the move of EZY at Bristol from 737s to 319s? I am led to believe that after EMA is up to its complement of 3 next month that Bristol is next on the list. My in laws are flying to AMS from BRS at Christmas, and are clamouring to know whether they will get a brand new machine! Sad question I know, but I promised them I'd ask!

rampboy767 20th Sep 2005 16:49

I think EZY will be changing the fleet over has of October, but i know they want to be an all airbus base by the end of the year. Anyone else shed any light on this?

MerchantVenturer 21st Sep 2005 14:31

Talking of easyJet, I noticed that the afternoon flight to BRS from BFS seems to have 'disappeared' from the arrivals board yesterday and today, and the SXF has 'gone' today.

They still seem to exist on the easyJet web timetable but when I did a test booking no afternoon flights are shown on Tuesdays and Wednesdays for BFS-BRS. I did the same for SXF and there is no Wednesday flight for the next month, however it seems to re-appear on 19 October.

The afternoon Tue and Wed BFS flights are also seemingly available again later in October.

There is nothing on the easyJet website that I can see.

This is one of the things that infuriates me about airlines and airports. They always announce new routes or additions to a schedule with noise and publicity, but when they withdraw routes or reduce frequencies (even temporarily) they rarely say anything about it. It is up to Joe Public to find out by trial and error.

I don't know if any other BRS routes are affected. A brief look at NCL shows they too seem to have been reduced to 6 SXF rotations per week and no third BFS flight for part of the week also.

Any idea why this is?

terrier21 23rd Sep 2005 06:29

BFS and SXF seem to be running at 3 sun-fri and 1 sat for BFS and daily for SXF as far as Im aware there are reductions on BUD VLC and PMI to make way for increased GVA.

SSH also has Thurs service between 03/11/05 - 27/04/06 op by BY so 3 SSH 1 TCP and 1 HRG.

Still unsure about EZY's transformation to 319's

MerchantVenturer 23rd Sep 2005 10:45

Hello terrier, good to see you back on here.

Re easyJet timetable, there are certainly reduced numbers of rotations for some routes in the winter timetable (compared to the summer) such as PSA, VLC and BUD, also PMI and NCE (these last two as previous winter), some of which you mention. Despite this the eight based aircraft still seem to be fully utilised with, again as you say, such things as a second daily GVA throughout the main part of the winter.

What I was speaking of is the current situation. This week the SXF did not run on Wednesday and the afternoon BFS did not run on Tue or Wed.

I checked the easyJet web timetable but there is no indication of a reduced number of rotations on these routes in Sept or Oct.

But if you try to book BRS-SXF a 'no flights' notice appears for Wednesday 28 Sept, 5 Oct and 12 Oct, but it is bookable again from Wed 19 Oct.

A similar thing applies to the afternoon BFS on Tues and Weds until Tuesday 25 Oct and Wed 26 Oct from which dates the afternoon BFS is again bookable. This is the last week of easy's summer timetable (the winter one begins on 30 October according to their website) so it is not as if they are waiting for the winter timetable to begin before restoring the afternoon BFS on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

I can find nothing on either the BRS or easyJet websites saying why these flights have been taken out, albeit apparently temporarily.

A broadly similar situation seems to exist at NCL on their SXF and BFS rotations.

MerchantVenturer 27th Sep 2005 20:01

BRS is hopeful of securing more routes at the World Route Development Forum in Copenhagen next week. An airport spokesman stated that Gibraltar, Warsaw, Copenhagen, Hamburg and Dusseldorf are on their priority list.

BRS is again amongst the awards.

Its impressive marketing team has, for the third consecutive year, taken the airport into the small group of finalists for the OAG marketing awards for airports up to 5 million annual pax. Last year BRS won the award, this year it was Highly Commended.

I suppose the airport will not be eligible for this category next year as it is almost up to 5 million pax for the rolling 12 months.

BRS is also on the short list for Best UK Airport to be decided next month at the Travel Trade Gazette's annual airport awards.

Finally, the EWR route carried nearly 9,000 pax in August, averaging nearly 142 per flight (load factor of around 82%), an encouraging move in the right direction.

So, plenty going on behind the scenes it would appear even though outwardly matters are fairly quiet, including this thread.

rampboy767 5th Oct 2005 17:57

Anyone know what the winter charters and routes will be this winter? Any new routes or airlines? Whats happening with the airbus's from EZY are they going to change the fleet over this year or not? I also heard that by the end of the year BRS will be nearer the 6m mark instead of the 5 million figure.

Powerjet1 6th Oct 2005 10:37

easy has announced two new routes from BRS, to Grenoble & Hamburg from Dec 1.

rampboy767 6th Oct 2005 14:59

Just found out 2day that EZY are going to start changing to an all airbus fleet end of the month. As of the 31st of October the first A319 will be based and a 737 will leave. The other 737s will to swapped to A319s one a month after october. Two new routes for EZY booming Bristol...hehe


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