Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Airlines, Airports & Routes
Reload this Page >

New Start - Global Airlines

Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

New Start - Global Airlines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:00
  #341 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: west of the tamar
Age: 75
Posts: 863
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
I think Greimm might be a more appropriate description of his future prospects.
​​​​​​A clear case of journalism at its frothiest, no substance there at all.
​​​​​​If I read one more time the " To make a small fortune" quote attributed to Richard Branson I will scream, that quote is old and has been attributed to so many people and industries over the years.
Best thing Mr Asquith could have done was take the millions offered for Global.
Never say never but I am just off to "Fight them on the beaches' just remember my quote
.
​​​​
GROUNDHOG is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:06
  #342 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Ireland
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
​​​​​​A clear case of journalism at its frothiest, no substance there at all.
​​​​​​If I read one more time the " To make a small fortune" quote attributed to Richard Branson I will scream, that quote is old and has been attributed to so many people and industries over the years.
Best thing Mr Asquith could have done was take the millions offered for Global.
Never say never but I am just off to "Fight them on the beaches' just remember my quote
.
​​​​
The joke/quote from Branson is like the anecdote about the 'joke' told at the start of airline industry conferences. Its purpose? To determine and pinpoint who among the audience is a 'newcomer' to the industry. They will be the ONLY ones who laugh.
GrimeySky is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:10
  #343 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: London, UK
Posts: 710
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am just curious about the point that has been raised a number of times re LGW having only one A380 gate. When EK initially introduced the A380 to Gatwick it used a dedicated gate in the North Terminal satellite (over the bridge) which had air bridge access to both the upper and lower deck. A while back (a couple of years?) EK switched to a “new” A380 gate in the main body of the North Terminal. However, is their original A380 gate on the satellite no longer suitable for A380s? Please could a LGW expert advise.
willy wombat is online now  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:39
  #344 (permalink)  
Scourge of Bad Airline Management!
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Global Nomad
Age: 55
Posts: 1,094
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by willy wombat
I am just curious about the point that has been raised a number of times re LGW having only one A380 gate. When EK initially introduced the A380 to Gatwick it used a dedicated gate in the North Terminal satellite (over the bridge) which had air bridge access to both the upper and lower deck. A while back (a couple of years?) EK switched to a “new” A380 gate in the main body of the North Terminal. However, is their original A380 gate on the satellite no longer suitable for A380s? Please could a LGW expert advise.
I think a number of people who know these things have posted that the remote A380 gate over the bridge has gone the way of all flesh, but I will bow to their excellent wisdom if I have misquoted them.
TwinAisle is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:51
  #345 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Surrey
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by willy wombat
I am just curious about the point that has been raised a number of times re LGW having only one A380 gate. When EK initially introduced the A380 to Gatwick it used a dedicated gate in the North Terminal satellite (over the bridge) which had air bridge access to both the upper and lower deck. A while back (a couple of years?) EK switched to a “new” A380 gate in the main body of the North Terminal. However, is their original A380 gate on the satellite no longer suitable for A380s? Please could a LGW expert advise.
When it first came it used Pier 4 - stand 51 I think. I can't remember the air bridge/steps arrangement but both were used. Subsequently, it moved to Pier 6 - stand 110 which had air bridge access to both upper and lower decks. It's now on Pier 5 - stand 558. Stand 51 could still easily accommodate an A380, but wouldn't have air bridge access to both levels.
-
When Hi-Fly brought their A380 in, it was generally stuck out on the remote 170 stands lots of coaches/steps involved. Messy.
Apron Artist is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 17:51
  #346 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by willy wombat
I am just curious about the point that has been raised a number of times re LGW having only one A380 gate. When EK initially introduced the A380 to Gatwick it used a dedicated gate in the North Terminal satellite (over the bridge) which had air bridge access to both the upper and lower deck. A while back (a couple of years?) EK switched to a “new” A380 gate in the main body of the North Terminal. However, is their original A380 gate on the satellite no longer suitable for A380s? Please could a LGW expert advise.
The reason for the A380 gate to be moved from Pier 6 to Pier 5 is obvious.

Pier 6 is going to be extended to accommodate more narrow body gates. As part of the plans the A380 gate was relocated to Pier 5.

The associated taxiways were also realigned to allow for the extension.

The area at the end of Pier 6 where the A380 gate was situated is closed off for prepreparatory works.

The original plan was for the extension to be completed by 2021 but construction was halted due to the pandemic.

Final construction of the extension to Pier 6 is due to commence in Q2 2024.

Absolutely loads of diagrams and images and information online as well as on the official London Gatwick Airport website and it's Master Plan.

It's so easy to keep upto date without relying on the likes of sites such as pprune 👍
Sotonsean is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 17:54
  #347 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 414
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
The reason for the A380 gate to be moved from Pier 6 to Pier 5 is obvious.

Pier 6 is going to be extended to accommodate more narrow body gates. As part of the plans the A380 gate was relocated to Pier 5.

The associated taxiways were also realigned to allow for the extension.

The area at the end of Pier 6 where the A380 gate was situated is closed off for prepreparatory works.

The original plan was for the extension to be completed by 2021 but construction was halted due to the pandemic.

Final construction of the extension to Pier 6 is due to commence in Q2 2024.

Absolutely loads of diagrams and images and information online as well as on the official London Gatwick Airport website and it's Master Plan.

It's so easy to keep upto date without relying on the likes of sites such as pprune 👍
Blimey! That's telling you!
Flying Hi is online now  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 18:01
  #348 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Surrey
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
The reason for the A380 gate to be moved from Pier 6 to Pier 5 is obvious.

Pier 6 is going to be extended to accommodate more narrow body gates. As part of the plans the A380 gate was relocated to Pier 5.

The associated taxiways were also realigned to allow for the extension.

The area at the end of Pier 6 where the A380 gate was situated is closed off for prepreparatory works.

The original plan was for the extension to be completed by 2021 but construction was halted due to the pandemic.

Final construction of the extension to Pier 6 is due to commence in Q2 2024.

Absolutely loads of diagrams and images and information online as well as on the official London Gatwick Airport website and it's Master Plan.

It's so easy to keep upto date without relying on the likes of sites such as pprune 👍
All very well and true, but stand 51 can still accommodate. Off-topic, but the Pier 6 extension - as a ground handler - is far from ideal.
Apron Artist is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 18:21
  #349 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: London, UK
Posts: 710
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry, Sotonsean, but you seem to be confusing me with someone who is sufficiently interested to delve into the Gatwick master plan. There is a somewhat less polite way of putting that but I’m a gentleman.
willy wombat is online now  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 18:37
  #350 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Flying Hi
Blimey! That's telling you!
In that case, job done 👍
Sotonsean is offline  
Old 14th Oct 2023, 18:43
  #351 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by willy wombat
Sorry, Sotonsean, but you seem to be confusing me with someone who is sufficiently interested to delve into the Gatwick master plan. There is a somewhat less polite way of putting that but I’m a gentleman.
My response was made in an articulate manner, very matter of fact as well as being polite at the same time.

Why your offended by that is beyond me.

"But I'm a gentleman." What type of comment is that. It's a very "old school" comment, especially for 2023.
Sotonsean is offline  
Old 15th Oct 2023, 04:09
  #352 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Ferrara
Posts: 8,501
Received 368 Likes on 216 Posts
having read the puff piece in the Times magazine the reporter is totally fascinated by the "human angle" of the promoter and dismisses the many and accurate queries raised on here and other places as "lots of paperwork".

Given the lead time for magazine stories they clearly interviewed him some time ago

He's living in dream land for sure
Asturias56 is online now  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 12:44
  #353 (permalink)  
DP.
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As bad as that Times piece is, it's also quite telling. Asquith comes across as little more than a spotter with a dream. Nothing wrong with having dreams but they're very different to reality. Anyone can parrot lines about putting A380s on 'demand heavy sectors' allowing them to provide a luxury experience for the same price as you'd pay on a legacy airline. Explaining the economics of how that works is an entirely different matter. Does anyone watch this and find themselves at all convinced by him? https://x.com/james_asquith/status/1...061265619?s=20

These constant puff pieces, appearing at Routes World, etc are all well and good, but they remain unable or unwilling to answer the difficult questions that are asked of them about the viability of getting this airline up and running.
DP. is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 14:41
  #354 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,153
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
I do enjoy watching this game, a time to kick back and relax. In his interview (no hard questions from Business Traveller USA) when asked how he can launch with this when experienced carriers are sidelinging it, he replies:
Quite frankly speaking - they're wrong. I don't think that a lot of the big airlines actually know what they are doing and that sounds awfully confident to say in many ways.
No excrement Sherlock ... That comment makes the 'interviewer' laugh. Gosh what fun we are having. Asquith continues:
But the reality is that no one really knows what price they paid, including so called experts.
So, EK, LH, BA and others do not know what they paid for their aircraft? Those massive companies with hundreds of lawyers signed contracts where the value was not stated and their hundreds of accounts and head of finance did not know to the last CENT what each aircraft cost? Yes, so true. He was fortunate that the 'interviewer' seemed to only have pre-listed questions and did not chase him up.

Asquith continued but I will not. But I do reccomend this cosy chat for a good laugh.
PAXboy is online now  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 16:01
  #355 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Nantgarw
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
He's also been said to be "based" in either Dubai or London, depending on your choice of publication. Perhaps it would also help him to work out where exactly he lives, before he tries to start an airline?
southamptonavgeek is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 16:57
  #356 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Marlow (mostly)
Posts: 369
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Asquith's other business...

A bit more research into Asquith's other business “Holiday Swap Group Limited” to amplify what I said on the Times article BTL.
Compared to its direct competitors it claims to have grown much faster without leaving any visible traces in consumer records. E.g. t
he claim on his website is that since starting in 2017 it has 250k "active users" at the beginning of 2020, 500k 2021, 1m+ 2022 and 10m+ projected Q4 2023. This is astonishingly faster than direct competitors like Homeexchange, started 1992 now claims 100k users . HHS claims 10 tiomes as many after only 5 years. Lovehomeswap (LHS), started in 2009, claims only 10k users. HHS doesn't have any "real world" contact information on its website but is registered as a UK company. "Customer reviews" give some clues as to what is is happening - Homeexchange (claimed 100k users) has about 5100 reviews on Trustpilot, of which 88% are 4 or 5 star. The smaller LHS has 1800 of which 83% are 4 or 5 star. With its "I million plus" in 2022. HHS itself has a grand total of 57 (fifty seven) from its million plus users, of which 54 are 5 star, the other three are 1 or 2 - no 3 or 4 - and NONE earlier than 14 September 2022, when there's a pattern of several of the same generic "praise" on the same day, all from Turkish name users and looking like bot-generated text.

The holidayhomeswap Android app shows "500k+ downloads" which is probably where the only justification for the claimed active users numbers) and has the same pattern. Few prior to autumn 2022 - mostly a mix of fake-looking 5 and genuine 1 stars. Then from September 2022 a flurry of 5 stars, for example 38 5 stars from Turkish names on a single day!

There's then very little recent comment: last 6 months it was mostly 1 star, one in August had the comment "A clunky Airbnb type app for renting, not house swapping. Appears to be nearly abandoned as well. App was last updated almost 1 yr ago."
The Apple app reviews is similar, again not updated for a year.

On the website I didn't find one property that did not show 100% availability in the future. Descriptions are generic and certainly don't look as if they'd been posted by genuine owners. Strangely, a huge number seem to have been put up by "Kevin", who joined in February 2023! For example, London flats with an address of "Romford, Birlesik Krallik" - which is Turkish for United Kingdom!
So it looks to me like HHS was a very unsuccessful startup by Asquith in Turkey in 2017, which was been revived with a load of fake data scraped from other websites last winter, to provide cover as the Global Airlines backer.

The board of HHS was changed a few months ago and now consists of Asquith, Tom Stokely -see Essex family behind OnlyFans profit from pornography boom | Pornography | The Guardian and Matt Davey - see Runaway CEO behind failed ticketing company who owes $3.8m loses appeal | Stuff.co.nz

Sirens, red lights......




slast is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 17:09
  #357 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bed
Posts: 340
Received 8 Likes on 5 Posts
When it goes belly up he’ll just blame the establishment against him blah blah rather than his absolute inability to understand basic airline economics
sangiovese. is online now  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 19:50
  #358 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: .
Posts: 463
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Holiday Swap's accounts at companies house are interesting. Over £15m in assets yet they don't file audited accounts and have only 4 employees? Doesn't seem right.
cavokblues is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 20:23
  #359 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On the road
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm actually enjoying watching this muppet bluff his way through interview after interview. Much as I dislike him, I'd love Piers Morgan to take an interest and get Asquith on his show and absolutely murder him. Now that would be fun to watch.
TartinTon is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2023, 20:26
  #360 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 414
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by TartinTon
I'm actually enjoying watching this muppet bluff his way through interview after interview. Much as I dislike him, I'd love Piers Morgan to take an interest and get Asquith on his show and absolutely murder him. Now that would be fun to watch.
I'm sure Asquith would never put himself in that position. So many lazy journos to bamboozle.
Flying Hi is online now  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.