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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:13
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And another from:

Global Airlines: Officially Calling "BS" (godsavethepoints.com)

EXCERPT FROM ''Officially calling 'BS'"Let me start by saying that in a travel world governed by protecting share price and shareholder value, rather than innovation and driving hospitality standards I admire those that take big swings or find new ways to please all. I don’t think Global Airlines will deliver in either of those avenues.

I’ve never been one to shy away from opinion and I’ve seen more than my fair share of big talking egos in the travel industry over the last decade. Few of these machismo ego types have been have been more easily ignored than James Asquith, the “founder and CEO” of paper airline, Global Airlines. I’d love to be wrong about this, I just so rarely am...................
That article by Gilbert Ott links in turn to another by Seth Miller that, if anything, is even more savage in its criticism of Global's half-baked plans and creative accounting:

Global Airlines pitch deck delivers questionable claims, fuzzy financials in advance of A380 fleet launch
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:14
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Originally Posted by GrimeySky
And another from:

Global Airlines: Officially Calling "BS" (godsavethepoints.com)

EXCERPT FROM ''Officially calling 'BS'"Let me start by saying that in a travel world governed by protecting share price and shareholder value, rather than innovation and driving hospitality standards I admire those that take big swings or find new ways to please all. I don’t think Global Airlines will deliver in either of those avenues.

I’ve never been one to shy away from opinion and I’ve seen more than my fair share of big talking egos in the travel industry over the last decade. Few of these machismo ego types have been have been more easily ignored than James Asquith, the “founder and CEO” of paper airline, Global Airlines. I’d love to be wrong about this, I just so rarely am...................
well they say the revolution always eats its children
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 16:13
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All you doomsayers will be laughing on the other side of your face, when this airline succeeds for no obvious reason and where everyone else before that has tried every possible permutation of the same things has failed.
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 16:22
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All you doomsayers will be laughing on the other side of your face, when this airline succeeds for no obvious reason and where everyone else before that has tried every possible permutation of the same things has failed.
Can I have a slice of what you're on!?
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 16:27
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Can I have a slice of what you're on!?
You should! It's amazing. Top quality. I get it from the same people as supplied the backers of MaxJet, EOS and SilverJet.
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Old 6th Aug 2023, 12:41
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You should! It's amazing. Top quality. I get it from the same people as supplied the backers of MaxJet, EOS and SilverJet.
When rules and regulations were way different to what they are today!
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Old 6th Aug 2023, 15:27
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You should! It's amazing. Top quality. I get it from the same people as supplied the backers of MaxJet, EOS and SilverJet.
You're just upset because it'll stop you achieving your dream - outlined in "My Struggle" in Feb 23 on here somewhere

"I propose to set up a virtual airline using 19 seater planes hired from people you've never heard of (at least not in a good way) to serve an initial network of Manston to Anglesey, Blackpool,.."



Funny old world - years of nothing and then TWO visionaries in 6 months................. you don't own a record company perchance??
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 01:43
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You're just upset because it'll stop you achieving your dream - outlined in "My Struggle" in Feb 23 on here somewhere

"I propose to set up a virtual airline using 19 seater planes hired from people you've never heard of (at least not in a good way) to serve an initial network of Manston to Anglesey, Blackpool,.."



Funny old world - years of nothing and then TWO visionaries in 6 months................. you don't own a record company perchance??
Oh no! I don't. Err... help! Oh wait. Maybe I should get a job in a record shop while I make plans for new routes?
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 05:07
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whats a record shop ?
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 09:21
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Its something you can form a zillion companies around, all with the same branding as your airline, hair lotion, hotels etc etc and then employ clever accountants to move cash around the scenery to minimise tax and the beady eyes of investigative reporters

I'm surprised someone hasn't thought of it before.......................
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 10:10
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The boy Asquith's been doing interviews again... this garbage in today's Independent, apparently from an interview with the Press Association.

New UK airline says its passengers will ‘feel like a million dollars’

Global Airlines is aiming to begin operating flights between Gatwick and New York JFK by the middle of next year.

QUOTE Global Airlines is aiming to begin operating between Gatwick and New YorkJFK by the middle of next year, before launching flights between Gatwick and Los Angeles. UNQUOTE
>>> So 'spring' has moved to by 30JUN... (Most experts assume the launch will be 1st April...)

QUOTE Founder and chief executive James Asquith, who created travel company Holiday Swap, said he has received “thousands of emails and messages” from people keen to fly on his airline. UNQUOTE
>>> Data science eh?! Evidence of solid demand.

QUOTE “People have had enough with how they are treated. Consistently there are devaluations in loyalty platforms.

“There are people in management and shareholders that will over-reward themselves.

“I want to primarily build a legacy. I’d rather walk away with zero (money) and have something that people genuinely love.” UNQUOTE

>>> A 'legacy' need not be a positive thing. So I think Asquith can tick that box anyway. Of the final two claim 'zero money and something that people will love' --- I suspect that he WILL achieve one or other of those goals...

QUOTE The 34-year-old said the quality of food and drinks on Global Airlines aircraft will be “the best” across all transatlantic services. UNQUOTE

>>> Haha - 'the best'. No comment!

QUOTE The airline, which will be based at Gatwick, will serve Laurent-Perrier champagne on its flights, and hopes to even offer passengers in economy cabins a free glass, depending on costs. UNQUOTE

>>> Pick that apart... 'hopes to offer' (= but probably won't) - and he adds the careful disclaimer 'depending on costs' (= won't!)

QUOT “Having a strong product in first class should filter down to economy, and make people in economy feel like a million dollars,” he claimed. UNQUOTE

>>> Winning strategy! There's nothing like knowing that folks up front are travelling in style to make a 30 inch pitch seat feel luxurious eh!


But got to remember - this carrier is never flying - so this is purely an illustration of PR puffery trying to attract investors. This is NOT intended as an analysis of an airline operation - because Global ain't going to happen.
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 10:12
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(And one more from the Independent)

QUOTE “I don’t think more flights and more carriers equals more competition,” he said.

“I actually just see that as more demand and supply on the route, which makes it easier to stand out if you have a better product.” UNQUOTE

>>> Interesting analysis of supply and demand!
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 16:24
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comparable "businesses"?

Just caught up with this subject.... a lot of this sounds like the Elizabeth Holmes / Theranos story: she had a lot of big name "advisory board members" and got 11 years for fraud for her "Revolutionary blood test technology" Or the cult-like reactions on Twitter to any criticism, the super-casual dress etc are very reminscent of Adam Neuman and the WeWork fiasco. He had a "vision" of disrupting the rented office space market to dominate the world and "make it a better place" , but made the basic error of expansion at any cost by ignoring basic business logic and taking out long term leases at any price, and renting the space short term at below cost. Went from a notional $47 BILLION value to bankrupt in 6 weeks. Most of his employees and investors were screwed over. Though he got away with a fortune personally . See The Cult of WeWork: A Culture Lesson for Every Visionary Unicorn - Liberty Mind . The AppleTV+ series "Wecrashed" is very watchable as well.
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 17:15
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Simpleflying blog awaking up too

Global Airlines' Airbus A380 Start-Up Plans: How Realistic Are They? (simpleflying.com)
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 19:28
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Seth Miller of PaxEx has filed again on the Global disaster story --- Global Airlines' questionable partnership claims continue | PaxEx.Aero
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 23:21
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When queried about the relationship, American Express had a rather different take. Yes, a company spokesman confirmed, AmEx and Global Airlines now have a “merchant acceptance agreement.”
I hope people don't mind me taking this opportunity to clarify some details about my proposed regional airline FlyAlpharcityWhoodwinx3, which I am convinced will be an excellent compliment / feeder to Global. When I said that FlyAlpharcityWhoodwinx3's partnership with a major worldwide financial services and online payments services provider would give billions of people access to FlyAlpharcityWhoodwinx3's services and brand, what I meant was that I've registered a PayPal account and have ordered an iZettle card reader.

In relation to my statement that Coca Cola Inc is providing major support in the behind the scenes development of my brand, I can confirm that it is entirely correct that I almost finished a 2l bottle while trying to get the powerpoint finished late at night.

I hope this puts an end to some of the scurrilous speculation that we have seen in recent days.
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Old 8th Aug 2023, 06:41
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I recall years ago the experts here saying an airline start up I was involved in would never happen,one member offering to eat his hat.
it did happen.
Really enjoyed the Global saga if nothing else it has raised a lot of publicity but I can't see anything else doing any rising.

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Big splash in the Times today - but they point out how few "followers" his previous transformational " outfits have had and that it could take a year to assemble the paperwork
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Old 8th Aug 2023, 17:15
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Big splash in the Times today - but they point out how few "followers" his previous transformational " outfits have had and that it could take a year to assemble the paperwork
The Times piece states ”bought 4 Airbus A380's. One, complete with branding, has already been delivered".

Interesting use of the word "delivered" there, eh?

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Anyone know anything about Cees Van Dooren, who's an ex Emirates pilot hired as A380 project manager for Global?
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