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Old 28th Jul 2021, 10:51
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Over the last few months a lot of cabin crew have left the business, leaving the company with potentially not enough cabin crew to cover the winter flying programme.

All cabin crew are to be recalled from furlough by the end of September, part time crew will be encouraged to increase hours to 75% or 100%, unpaid leave requests suspended until the end of March, and potentially there will be a recruitment campaign over the winter for new cabin crew in time for Spring.

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Old 28th Jul 2021, 15:00
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im guessing BACF will ditch BHD-GLA when it ends at the end of Aug? Presumably a hurried new ATR operator may take it on?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 15:17
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It doesn't appear to be ending in August.

Glasgow and Leeds double daily most days in Sept and bookable to end of October. Exeter operates most days to October end

All loaded with BA flight numbers and E190 a/c of course could be to enable bookings to switch to Aer Lingus regional if it gets going.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 15:32
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Would imagine Emerald will try and commence ops at the beginning of October on the Aer Lingus Regional routes with BACF in particular removing themselves when their schedules end in late September. Aer Lingus mainline however may continue to operate some connections initially due to lack of ATRís and crew training!
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 20:59
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And by all accounts a change in scheduling just today…
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 18:08
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Does anyone know how the GCI - LCY & EDI routes are performing?
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 18:04
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Thanks to draconian cuts to cabin crew terms and lack of pay review, cabin crew have been leaving in such volume that emergency meetings with Unite will now take place, to address the staff retention issues.

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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 20:18
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Looks like BHD-GLA dwindling day-on day. Was never going to last IMO.
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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 22:18
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dwindling in what way?
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Old 23rd Oct 2021, 01:27
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The route isnít dwindling in terms of passengers; BACF has a severe shortage of cabin crew meaning November and December schedules have been pruned accordingly.
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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 17:21
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It seems BOH-ACE is slightly shorter than LCY-JTR, but TUI have a BOH-ACE service.
LCY-CHQ is also shorter than LCY-JTR.
Good to see LCY-SKG is a new route.
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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 17:31
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Looks like BHD-GLA dwindling day-on day. Was never going to last IMO.
Due to shortage of crew.

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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 06:54
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I remember a time in BA Con days when they were cancelling 25+ flights a day due to Cabin Crew being loaned to Mainline to operate 767 LH flights. Management couldn't see what was wrong with that. I hope they are not playing that game again.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 17:41
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Looks like BHD-GLA dwindling day-on day. Was never going to last IMO.
It's worth remembering that BACF only stepped in to cover some of the routes from/to BHD due to the demise of Stobart Air.

I don't think these routes were ever planned to last long-term and you'll likely see a carefully orchestrated transition over to Emerald Airlines once they've obtained their UK AOC and operating licence, which is expected to happen in June according to ch-aviation.

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CF will then only serve BHD from/to LCY, probably with an EI codeshare.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 18:52
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Originally Posted by biddedout View Post
I remember a time in BA Con days when they were cancelling 25+ flights a day due to Cabin Crew being loaned to Mainline to operate 767 LH flights. Management couldn't see what was wrong with that. I hope they are not playing that game again.
BA are terribly short there as well, particularly cabin crew. Struggling to recruit on the new terms.Same at the new LGW low cost operation, where the only thing low cost is the cabin crew renumeration. Talk that BA is subbing flights to Iberia Express and Vueling.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 20:01
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Vueling are to base 3x A320 at Gatwick for Summer 2022.
Iberia Express are to base 4x A320 at Gatwick for Summer 2022.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 20:17
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Originally Posted by biddedout View Post
I remember a time in BA Con days when they were cancelling 25+ flights a day due to Cabin Crew being loaned to Mainline to operate 767 LH flights. Management couldn't see what was wrong with that. I hope they are not playing that game again.
There's a reason EU reg ec 261:2004 was introduced.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 12:13
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I predict a turbulent year for industrial relations. Cabin crew are leaving faster than they can be replaced, pilots are desperately unhappy and have lost all goodwill towards the company, and for the first time ever pay cabin crew pay negotiations will be done in conjunction with mainline fleets.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 15:27
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Originally Posted by GLCYZ View Post
I predict a turbulent year for industrial relations. Cabin crew are leaving faster than they can be replaced, pilots are desperately unhappy and have lost all goodwill towards the company, and for the first time ever pay cabin crew pay negotiations will be done in conjunction with mainline fleets.
which is not a benefit after the massacre of LHR cabin crew pay.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 15:34
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Also notice some removal of E190 fleet. Looks like 2 returned to lessor and another 6 parked up. Appreciate its winter season with smaller workloads but are they intentionally reducing the fleet or as has been suggested, being caused by staffing issues?
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