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BACF is so short of crew they are now asking pilots and office staff to work as cabin crew.
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One wonders if they are going to be paid for cabin crewing, in addition to their current role pay.
Colleague long ago got a junior management role at a major city bus company. It was standard/expected there, as they would commonly run short of drivers in the evening rush hour, or at weekends, that once they finished their day job in the office analysing revenue or whatever they would head for the garage and take a bus duty for a couple of hours, or at weekends for a full shift. This was all paid at the standard drivers' hourly rates. Apparently normal in that industry, a first thing as a management trainee was to get a bus drivers' licence.
But I don't like this "being given basic training". Surely, as BA regularly reinforces that cabin crew are there primarily for safety, it should be full training. Is breach of that not a breach of their AOC. And if you have to go through full training, why not recruit new staff and put them through the same. What happened to all the crew that used to work out of Gatwick ?
Colleague long ago got a junior management role at a major city bus company. It was standard/expected there, as they would commonly run short of drivers in the evening rush hour, or at weekends, that once they finished their day job in the office analysing revenue or whatever they would head for the garage and take a bus duty for a couple of hours, or at weekends for a full shift. This was all paid at the standard drivers' hourly rates. Apparently normal in that industry, a first thing as a management trainee was to get a bus drivers' licence.
But I don't like this "being given basic training". Surely, as BA regularly reinforces that cabin crew are there primarily for safety, it should be full training. Is breach of that not a breach of their AOC. And if you have to go through full training, why not recruit new staff and put them through the same. What happened to all the crew that used to work out of Gatwick ?
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One wonders if they are going to be paid for cabin crewing, in addition to their current role pay.
Colleague long ago got a junior management role at a major city bus company. It was standard/expected there, as they would commonly run short of drivers in the evening rush hour, or at weekends, that once they finished their day job in the office analysing revenue or whatever they would head for the garage and take a bus duty for a couple of hours, or at weekends for a full shift. This was all paid at the standard drivers' hourly rates. Apparently normal in that industry, a first thing as a management trainee was to get a bus drivers' licence.
But I don't like this "being given basic training". Surely, as BA regularly reinforces that cabin crew are there primarily for safety, it should be full training. Is breach of that not a breach of their AOC. And if you have to go through full training, why not recruit new staff and put them through the same. What happened to all the crew that used to work out of Gatwick ?
Colleague long ago got a junior management role at a major city bus company. It was standard/expected there, as they would commonly run short of drivers in the evening rush hour, or at weekends, that once they finished their day job in the office analysing revenue or whatever they would head for the garage and take a bus duty for a couple of hours, or at weekends for a full shift. This was all paid at the standard drivers' hourly rates. Apparently normal in that industry, a first thing as a management trainee was to get a bus drivers' licence.
But I don't like this "being given basic training". Surely, as BA regularly reinforces that cabin crew are there primarily for safety, it should be full training. Is breach of that not a breach of their AOC. And if you have to go through full training, why not recruit new staff and put them through the same. What happened to all the crew that used to work out of Gatwick ?
Much of the current cabin Crew training involves other non essential things, eg learning about the brand, how to read a roster, exec club, team building excercise, sales techniques, grooming standards, personnel matter ID cards
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I work for a Train Operating Company and its standard practice for all office based management grades to operate as Train Managers when required due to sickness, staff shortages etc. They are safety critical trained but not revenue or ticketing.
Being former cabin crew myself, spending a flight in the cabin as opposed to behind a locked door will give a very good reality check for some pilots on the stresses and strains of being face to face for hours on end with the SLF!
Being former cabin crew myself, spending a flight in the cabin as opposed to behind a locked door will give a very good reality check for some pilots on the stresses and strains of being face to face for hours on end with the SLF!
I recall in the 1980s a lengthy baggage handling strike at Heathrow that BA office staff got stuck in outside their normal office duties, and some made considerable amounts of money from lengthy shifts there.
Normal. With LCY closed Saturday lunchtime to Sunday lunchtime, an aircraft heads from there for Palma early on Saturday, then operates several holiday flights from there to these other UK points before returning to LCY on Sunday afternoon when it reopens. There's a comparable operation with another LCY aircraft which runs flights from Southampton at the same time.
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This is the first year of the IOM and GCI flights, certainly in GCI they appear to be doing pretty well if what is being reported is correct due to people preferring to fly direct even if it costs more than connecting through the UK post-Covid.
FlyDirect also bring in BA CityFlyer for their JER-AGP flights which operate in May/ October
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BA/CFE are operating sheduled flights GCI to EDI & GCI to LCY this summer season, I have yet to see any publicity for either of the routes, would be a shame if the loads don't live up to expectations as the travelling Guernsey public are keen for more operators/routes from the island.
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BA/CFE are operating sheduled flights GCI to EDI & GCI to LCY this summer season, I have yet to see any publicity for either of the routes, would be a shame if the loads don't live up to expectations as the travelling Guernsey public are keen for more operators/routes from the island.
Hopefully LCY will do ok, would be great if something more came of it.
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Diversions are of course an expensive nuisance, but Southend was the next best thing, both for operators and passengers. I don't quite know what Southend did to make BACF not welcome, but now it seems Gatwick is the diversion of choice, while Southend's new terminal is deserted.
There were no scheduled services at all at Southend 20 years ago when I was regular GA into there. Maybe just one on summer Saturdays from and to Jersey, which I never saw. This didn't stop them handling any and all LCY diversions, they were welcomed.
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BA7029 LCY-FAO leaves 19:30 on Fridays this summer, looks like it's positioning for FlyDirect flights.
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This one night stops FAO.
Likewise a similar move back on Sunday evening FAO-LCY
BACF also fly for them from GCI and IOM too.
There will also be similar movements to get aircraft to SOU for the weekend leisure flights, and also up North as well as they fly for TUI Holidays from NCL EDI and GLA.