Aurigny Air Services-3

[Nuweiba]

Sounds very good news but can not see it working unless fares are kept reasonable, connecting flights from Jersey and Alderney are made affordable, and, most importantly of all, a code-share / interline agreement is made with AF/KLM. A triangular route with Jersey might be wiser.

[kcockayne]

Good news ? Yes, but the better news would be if it is still operating three or four years on from now. I am somewhat dubious about its prospects, especially as it requires a subsidy. It is reasonably telling that Jersey (with a population 50% bigger than Guernsey’s) has not had a route to Paris for many years. If Jersey can’t make it pay, I can’t see how Guernsey will - especially as it will require a States subsidy from day one ! Indicative of future prospects, maybe.
Nevertheless, I hope that it is successful (in the light of tourism numbers dropping by 25%, or so). As with the campaign to extend the runway, there is a lot of wishful thinking going on in Guernsey. A lot of it seems to be somewhat divorced from reality.

[Wycombe]

Looks like the Embraer went for a tour of southern England late last night, but due weather (which was a bit sparky around these parts) went back to Gatwick.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-nsey#321239da

No doubt there will be resulting disruption today

[KindaUnstuck]

I Was on the BHX- GCI yesterday which ended up in SOU for fuel... to be fair to Aurigny they got us home and kept us informed as best they could and handed out water when we were in the air the second time, even if it wasn't very comfortable after 4 hours sat on an ATR.

Felt sorry for the poor passengers on the Embraer last night as the 'midnight tour' was the second attempt to get them here, I guess they ran out of time and Guernsey shut the airport as the arrival time on FlightRadar was hovering about midnight and then slipped the further north they flew up towards Oxford... Easy to say compared to being there dealing with it but had they gone to somewhere closer to refuel rather than back to Gatwick they may have possibly of got back last night.

[KindaUnstuck]

Noticed a few airports added into the Aurigny booking system, but with the flights marked as Sold Out (presumably pending the press release etc).

London City - x2 daily (x3 Friday, 0 on Saturdays, x2 on Sunday once LCY opens), GR400 - GR411
Stansted - x3 per week GR626/627 same flight numbers as previous
Liverpool - x3 per week, GR630/631

EDIT taken from Sean M's Twitter:
Edinburgh - x1 weekly on Wednesdays - GR634/5 from end of May
Paris - x2 weekly Mon & Fri - GR680/1

[Aero Mad]

Exciting news!

Haven't run the numbers yet but looks like quite a big expansion of capacity to London. One wonders if this foretells a decision to sell the Embraer and to purchase another ATR.

On another note, does anyone know why G-ETAC flew to Roskilde last Saturday? Presumably for engine maintenance with this firm? It flew an interesting route, avoiding France and Holland. Flight plans had been filed and then cancelled a few times previously.

[KindaUnstuck]

Originally Posted by Aero Mad

Exciting news!

Haven't run the numbers yet but looks like quite a big expansion of capacity to London. One wonders if this foretells a decision to sell the Embraer and to purchase another ATR.

I was presuming x2 leased ATRs - one to fly the existing Embraer LGW/MAN schedule plus one to effectively allow for LCY, STN, EDI, LPL and CDG, leaving one of the current 3 to act as a spare/ weekend breaks/ charters etc as per this year.

Based on a Friday which generally was x4 E195 and x2 ATR72 flights the seat count has gone from 632 to 720 including the x3 LCY and the STN on the basis the Embraer has gone.

Tuesdays have gone from 582 based on x3 Embraer + x3 ATR flights) to 576 based on ATR72 on all 6 LGW and the 2 LCY flights).

Liverpool and Manchester are both red-eye flights on the Saturday and leave within 15 minutes of each other which seems like a strange choice.

I was told by someone that EDI would be x2 weekly but maybe that has been changed based on what else they have/ slot availability

Looks like there will also be a programme of flights to the Balearics plus a few other destinations also.

[Jerbourg]

EDI & CDG timings

GCI-EDI starts a weekly Wednesday service 29 May 2024

GCI 1050 EDI 1305
EDI 1335 GCI 1600

GCI-CDG starts a twice weekly Mon & Fri service for summer 2024

GCI 1050 CDG 1305
CDG 1340 GCI 1410


More tech issues for the Dornier today with GR201/202/501/502 sectors cancelled.

[CabinCrewe]

Aurigney don't half chop and change. I’ll put a small wager the timetable looks different again this time next year…
Good luck to them for being ambitious though.

[Jerbourg]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Aurigney don't half chop and change. I’ll put a small wager the timetable looks different again this time next year…
Good luck to them for being ambitious though.

I haven't seen much 'chopping & changing' only additions..

[KindaUnstuck]

Another short-term route showing up in the Aurigny booking engine:

Guernsey - Newquay Tuesdays 23 July - 27 August 2024 on the ATR72

GR736 departs Guernsey at 3pm, arrives 3:45pm,
GR737 departs Newquay at 4:15pm, arrives Guernsey 5pm

Looks like Menorca, Majorca and Ibiza are each getting a 5/6 week programme of flights on Saturdays from mid May - end of September in the order listed.

EDIT: summer schedule now live for booking, believe there may be the odd tweak to come but no other new routes

[Jerbourg]

After months of speculation Aurigny have at last announced that the Embraer 195 will be leaving the fleet.
From what I can see the aircraft vanishes from the schedule in early 2024 leaving the ATR's to do all the UK & European routes & the 228's to service Alderney.
I wonder if a buyer has already been found?

[Egda]

My understanding is they are looking for the Lessor of the 2 new ATR's to take the Embraer in a kind of Part Ex!

[Jerbourg]

I overheard a conversation yesterday where the subject was the incoming ATR's & the outgoing 195. Seems 'new' ATR's cannot be sourced & the Embraer will now stay in the fleet until the end of the winter schedule. I believe it was due to finish service with GR next week? Can anyone confirm/deny this?

[Gurnard]

Originally Posted by Jerbourg

I overheard a conversation yesterday where the subject was the incoming ATR's & the outgoing 195. Seems 'new' ATR's cannot be sourced & the Embraer will now stay in the fleet until the end of the winter schedule. I believe it was due to finish service with GR next week? Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Yes, that had been the plan a few weeks ago to take it out of service in the first week of January.

[KindaUnstuck]

Originally Posted by Jerbourg

I overheard a conversation yesterday where the subject was the incoming ATR's & the outgoing 195. Seems 'new' ATR's cannot be sourced & the Embraer will now stay in the fleet until the end of the winter schedule. I believe it was due to finish service with GR next week? Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Overhearing a member of cabin crew talking to a passenger they knew this afternoon, their words were "it looks like the jet is staying until March" - no idea if that means start, middle or end of the month however as the passenger didn't ask.

[virginblue]

Are the Embraer flight deck crews also qualified on the ATR72 or do they need to be re-trained?

[Aero Mad]

https://www.islandfm.com/news/guerns...y-until-april/

[dc9-32]

Originally Posted by virginblue

Are the Embraer flight deck crews also qualified on the ATR72 or do they need to be re-trained?

Totally different type rating etc.

[Jerbourg]

Originally Posted by dc9-32

Totally different type rating etc.

All the Embraer flight crew are booked for ATR training/conversion from this month I was told.