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Disgusting performance from them today on the SOU routes. Yes performance of other companies, parts shortages etc are out of their control
but it’s been known for ages that the EJ195 was leaving the fleet and that ATR maintenance/parts are lacking. Why on earth have they at the same time launched a load of extra routes most of which seem completely frivolous? Do they really need to serve STN and LCY on top of their million flights a day to LGW? Launching flights to CDG, LPL and DUB also seems a stretch given the small fleet and the long standing known issues I mention above that were incoming. The net result is a shambles and complete disregard to the SOU route which is long standing and used by a lot of people already who want to get to London. This is a mess of their own doing and the residents of Guernsey should quite rightly be angry at this screw up.
but it’s been known for ages that the EJ195 was leaving the fleet and that ATR maintenance/parts are lacking. Why on earth have they at the same time launched a load of extra routes most of which seem completely frivolous? Do they really need to serve STN and LCY on top of their million flights a day to LGW? Launching flights to CDG, LPL and DUB also seems a stretch given the small fleet and the long standing known issues I mention above that were incoming. The net result is a shambles and complete disregard to the SOU route which is long standing and used by a lot of people already who want to get to London. This is a mess of their own doing and the residents of Guernsey should quite rightly be angry at this screw up.
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You do know they were only actually scheduled to operate one return flight today - the other 3 being Blue Islands (who also seem to having their own ATR woes) operated code shares?
Our office has already had several round trips to/from the island to both LCY & DUB this year, and I'm using LCY next month for onward connecting flights, and have EDI booked for later in the year too, so there's demand ask far as I'm concerned. If you're upset at Aurigny I'd suggest you don't try and book Condor Ferries...
Our office has already had several round trips to/from the island to both LCY & DUB this year, and I'm using LCY next month for onward connecting flights, and have EDI booked for later in the year too, so there's demand ask far as I'm concerned. If you're upset at Aurigny I'd suggest you don't try and book Condor Ferries...
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You do know they were only actually scheduled to operate one return flight today - the other 3 being Blue Islands (who also seem to having their own ATR woes) operated code shares?
Our office has already had several round trips to/from the island to both LCY & DUB this year, and I'm using LCY next month for onward connecting flights, and have EDI booked for later in the year too, so there's demand ask far as I'm concerned. If you're upset at Aurigny I'd suggest you don't try and book Condor Ferries...
Our office has already had several round trips to/from the island to both LCY & DUB this year, and I'm using LCY next month for onward connecting flights, and have EDI booked for later in the year too, so there's demand ask far as I'm concerned. If you're upset at Aurigny I'd suggest you don't try and book Condor Ferries...
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It’s most definitely not one and the same. What a load of pious tosh. Each airline has its own fleet and its own services to deliver. And each has its own challenges, which caused delays. It does happen. Welcome to aviation.
Good point but it’s one and the same as they are basically in cahoots with each other. Plus BI have added odd routes in Dublin, Norwich and Isle of Man shortly despite no increase in the fleet. In fact, 2 of the 5 aircraft they have are on long term maintenance. The level of incompetence is mind blowing. Especially as it seems they are allowing the SOU routes to be affected when they are their most popular and long standing routes outside LGW but still flying the frivolous new routes.
BA code share with numerous airlines - I suppose they are all 'in cahoots' too?
I have heard this term used by those ignorant of the way airlines operate.... I say no more.
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Maybe wait until Blue Islands actually launch the routes to start calling them incompetent. There is a reason their CEO is one of the longest-serving in Europe.
Especially as it seems they are allowing the SOU routes to be affected when they are their most popular and long standing routes outside LGW but still flying the frivolous new routes.
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You either aren’t aware of the history or take things too generally. You do realise BI were set up to be a direct competitor to Aurigny? They competed for many years including on both CI routes from SOU. We now find ourselves in a position where only BI have the Jersey route and fly all but one of the Guernsey routes which was some climb down by Aurigny considering they historically had those routes to themselves and have the advantage of state backing. Then came the codeshare on each other’s routes and now we even see BI aircraft pitching in when Aurigny need a bit of help. That’s a pretty cosy relationship. By the way, I don’t think it’s a bad thing on the whole but it’s clearly way different than just having a codeshare like they do with LM. Now we see both BI and Aurigny opening a large bunch of odd routes at a time when no new additions to the fleet are made and the existing fleet is under strain. Again, surprising the same bad decision has been made at the same time. Would you have made the decision to launch these routes when at the time the issues must have been known?
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Blue Islands are hardly launching a raft of new routes. Isle of Man back on off peak days of the week and about six flights to Luxembourg hardly paints the picture you’re setting out, unless I’m missing something - and they’ve done IOM before.
Different story for Aurigny but largely seems to be an effort to compensate for the capacity reduction resulting from the jet leaving the fleet. What do you expect them to do?
Different story for Aurigny but largely seems to be an effort to compensate for the capacity reduction resulting from the jet leaving the fleet. What do you expect them to do?
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You either aren’t aware of the history or take things too generally. You do realise BI were set up to be a direct competitor to Aurigny? They competed for many years including on both CI routes from SOU. We now find ourselves in a position where only BI have the Jersey route and fly all but one of the Guernsey routes which was some climb down by Aurigny considering they historically had those routes to themselves and have the advantage of state backing.
Aurigny was never the sole operator on either the Guernsey-Southampton route or the Jersey-Southampton route so your recollection of history is incorrect. In fact Aurigny has never operated between Jersey and Southampton. That route has been operated by a number of operators including Air UK/Air Atlantique/Loganair/British Regional Airlines/JEA/Flybe/Blue Islands.
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Mr Hinkles said that aircraft downtime for maintenance and day-to-day operational issues often now extended from days to weeks and months, which was why airlines were struggling to maintain schedules.
‘Airlines do everything they can to run flights on time, it’s the most cost-effective way to operate, and it keeps customers happy,’ he said.
‘No-one benefits from delays and cancellations, but sometimes – despite all endeavours – they can and do happen.
‘Against that background, it’s risible for some commentators to call for guarantees that flight disruption will be eradicated, and it’s just as impossible for an airline chief to give such a warranty as it is plainly daft for anyone to demand it.’
‘Airlines do everything they can to run flights on time, it’s the most cost-effective way to operate, and it keeps customers happy,’ he said.
‘No-one benefits from delays and cancellations, but sometimes – despite all endeavours – they can and do happen.
‘Against that background, it’s risible for some commentators to call for guarantees that flight disruption will be eradicated, and it’s just as impossible for an airline chief to give such a warranty as it is plainly daft for anyone to demand it.’
He said that, as a result of these issues, Guernsey should be cautious about trying to encourage airlines such as EasyJet to the island, as low-cost carriers tend to only offer flights in high season rather than year-round connectivity.
‘The two concepts don’t sit comfortably together,’ he said.
‘Bluntly put, if an incoming low-cost airline runs off with the summer profits, your local airline will need an unprecedented level of financial support from the States to keep even a skeletal essential air service open through the leaner winter months.’
‘The two concepts don’t sit comfortably together,’ he said.
‘Bluntly put, if an incoming low-cost airline runs off with the summer profits, your local airline will need an unprecedented level of financial support from the States to keep even a skeletal essential air service open through the leaner winter months.’
Overall situation ? Be very careful in what you wish for ! Don’t waste your money on extending the runway - it will get very little use over the years by the aircraft that you are extending it for.
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Aurigny make a profit again
According to the BBC Guernsey news website, Aurigny made a profit in 2023 but they're not revealing how much just yet.
I would post the link here but I'm not allowed.
They acknowledge the website needs improvement, and the Clearview tech enabled 50 to 60 landings that otherwise wouldn't have happened.
I would post the link here but I'm not allowed.
They acknowledge the website needs improvement, and the Clearview tech enabled 50 to 60 landings that otherwise wouldn't have happened.
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The leased Luxwing Q400 has just gone off the end of the runway into the grass in Guernsey. Don't think there was any rain, and with 1463m to play with, not sure what the cause was!