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Old 21st Mar 2022, 02:49
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And you think Prestwick 'the most cash generative airfield' (?) doesn't need to bother to advertise, market or promote the few pax routes they still have - even on it's own website?

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Old 10th Nov 2022, 06:21
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Ryanair Summer 23 ? ?

On the Ryanair website there are currently no S23 flights scheduled to any destination from PIK.
On the app flights are still listed but every flight is "Too late, flight sold out"
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 06:35
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Originally Posted by Monkton3 View Post
On the Ryanair website there are currently no S23 flights scheduled to any destination from PIK.On the app flights are still listed but every flight is "Too late, flight sold out"
S23 not finalised yet
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 09:25
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Does anyone really bother checking airport websites other than to arrange for car parking these days? I don't think so. Most people will be checking online travel sites or the airline websites themselves or possibly travel agents. An airport website is pointless apart from booking essentials once you know you're flying through.

Does Waterloo train station have a website?
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 12:12
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
Does anyone really bother checking airport websites other than to arrange for car parking these days? I don't think so. Most people will be checking online travel sites or the airline websites themselves or possibly travel agents. An airport website is pointless apart from booking essentials once you know you're flying through.

Does Waterloo train station have a website?
Flight arrivals, yes. Waterloo is part of National Rail website and has arrival/departure and disruption info.
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"Does anyone really bother checking airport websites other than to arrange for car parking these days?"

2 reasons - its the fastest way of finding out who is flying where from any airport, second if you are picking someone up its often the bast way to get real data
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 14:26
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"Does anyone really bother checking airport websites other than to arrange for car parking these days?"

2 reasons - its the fastest way of finding out who is flying where from any airport, second if you are picking someone up its often the bast way to get real data
it’s really not as we know from the endless complaints on here about airport websites. If people want to fly somewhere most either go to the airline they always use or they use sky scanner/Google flights or similar. Maybe they then look directly with the carrier when they see who is flying.

If you want to pick someone up, Flightradar24 is pretty decent - even my elderly grandparents are capable of using it to find out when we’re landing.
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 17:28
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Dara Brady from Ryanair did say in the Scotsman recently that PIK's maintenance base will become their second biggest and that they are in good talks with Glasgow about increasing operations from next summer. Not sure if that has any wider impact for PIKs passenger ops with nothing on the system and its just the usual Ryanair chess game they have had in the likes of Belfast or it has further implications for their commercial ops in the West.
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Old 15th Nov 2022, 07:56
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It's being reported that PIK made another profit this year. £1.3 million and did not need to increase borrowing.
An increase in passengers, refueling and cargo was also reported.

Full accounts should be available soon on Companies House.

https://www.google.com/amp/dailybusi...t-support/amp/
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Old 16th Nov 2022, 09:05
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Not sure I really get this. So have they returned any of the loan investment to tax payer?
One wonders the success going forward if the cited reasons for profit were Covid PPE transport and Cop26 both of which were one-offs, the rest coming from (what must be very labile) fuelling charges.
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Old 16th Nov 2022, 10:18
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Not sure I really get this. So have they returned any of the loan investment to tax payer?
One wonders the success going forward if the cited reasons for profit were Covid PPE transport and Cop26 both of which were one-offs, the rest coming from (what must be very labile) fuelling charges.
Don't know what's so hard to accept.

In simple terms.

-operating profits hitting £1.9m. - fifth consecutive year of improving financial results - and the third year in a row of making a profit. -For the 12 months to this March, revenue came in at £34.2m -Cargo volumes rose by 36% to 18,000 tonnes- passenger numbers more than doubled to 118,000.
- Refuelling was up 89% to 36 million litres, with the value of fuel sold - at £20.8m - making up the bulk of the airport's revenue. - it has not drawn down new loan funds for three years. Prestwick did not receive any new funding from taxpayer for the last 3 years and is not going to need any for the following year

Sounds like an improving picture, and I'm glad it's still operating look at Doncaster which received covid money and local Mayor said Tory minister for Transport, Anne-Marie Trevelyan, had washed her hands of the closure

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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 09:36
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PIK Summer '23

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S23 not finalised yet
It's now been more than 3 weeks since FR blanked their S23 schedule on both website & App.
That's potentially a lot of lost sales.

"Finalise" might be the precise description!
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"Refuelling was up 89% to 36 million litres, with the value of fuel sold - at £20.8m - making up the bulk of the airport's revenue. "

So really dependent on the price of oil ?
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Originally Posted by Monkton3 View Post
It's now been more than 3 weeks since FR blanked their S23 schedule on both website & App.
That's potentially a lot of lost sales.

"Finalise" might be the precise description!
I wonder if this might be a technical glitch.

FR changed many of their PIK flight numbers at the start of the current winter schedule. For example, PIK-ACE was FR6153, but became FR7820 at the start of the current winter schedule. The FR app shows PIK-ACE this coming summer as FR6153 but sold out. However, you can book PIK-ACE for November 23 already and it shows the current flight number FR7820.

So I wonder if their timetable system thinks that FR6153 is the operating flight in the coming summer, but can't find it in thier sales system (since it should be FR7820) and so displays it as sold out. Similarly, you can book TFS for next winter with the current flight number (7816) but not for this coming summer, which shows the old flight number (653).
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"Refuelling was up 89% to 36 million litres, with the value of fuel sold - at £20.8m - making up the bulk of the airport's revenue. "

So really dependent on the price of oil ?
What percentage of the £20.8 do they get to keep is the big question.
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 16:05
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PIK S23

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I wonder if this might be a technical glitch.

FR changed many of their PIK flight numbers at the start of the current winter schedule. For example, PIK-ACE was FR6153, but became FR7820 at the start of the current winter schedule. The FR app shows PIK-ACE this coming summer as FR6153 but sold out. However, you can book PIK-ACE for November 23 already and it shows the current flight number FR7820.

So I wonder if their timetable system thinks that FR6153 is the operating flight in the coming summer, but can't find it in thier sales system (since it should be FR7820) and so displays it as sold out. Similarly, you can book TFS for next winter with the current flight number (7816) but not for this coming summer, which shows the old flight number (653).
Interesting theory but I seriously doubt FR's Revenue Management System would somehow overlook the loss of a month's worth of potential bookings on all flights to/from PIK
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Monkton3 View Post
Interesting theory but I seriously doubt FR's Revenue Management System would somehow overlook the loss of a month's worth of potential bookings on all flights to/from PIK
Yes, you're probably quite right (and ALC isn't on sale and its flight number didn't change so that doesn't fit with my theory). You'd think that even if they were going to (say) move all their flights to GLA, they'd still have them on sale from PIK until such time as an announcement was made.
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 17:30
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PIK S23

I previously booked a couple of return flights PIK/ACE May/June & August/September. I'm concerned that if the flights are going to be pulled
then I will end up having to rebook other flights on alternative carriers. Obviously as time goes on these would be increasingly expensive.
Meantime Ryanair has banked my cash. Customer Service phone helpline was less than useless.
Yesterday I snailmail/posted a letter to Customer Services in Dublin. Wish me luck.....!
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 23:27
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Originally Posted by Monkton3 View Post
. Wish me luck.....!
on all fronts. At least you wont need to worry about other carriers from PIK!
FR with a paper letter enquiry will use it as a door wedge…
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 16:09
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Prestwick S23

And Lo, it came to pass that Ryanair's Summer Schedule was restoreth -
not much changed from before as far as I can see.
Peace and Joy throughout the land - well of Ayrshire anyway.
No sign of new Glasgow flights/routes yet...

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