Belfast City Airport-3

[Alteagod]

Not to mention the Emerald flights operate to and from same destination unlike Flybe who seem to go on daily adventures around the highways byways and airports of the UK with little chance of catching up on disruption. There schedule planning does seem overly complicated

[El Bunto]

Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

Q400 absolutely guzzles fuel vs the ATR. In the current environment, that’s bound to be hurting. When fuel is cheap, the savings on lower lease rates on thirstier frames often exceed the cost of the excess fuel burn. Quite the opposite when fuel is expensive.

You can't just compare paper figures though. The Emerald ATRs are operating in the range FL120 to 170, whereas the BEE Q400s are usually up around FL200 to 240.

[El Bunto]

Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

Q400 absolutely guzzles fuel vs the ATR. In the current environment, that’s bound to be hurting. When fuel is cheap, the savings on lower lease rates on thirstier frames often exceed the cost of the excess fuel burn. Quite the opposite when fuel is expensive.

You can't just compare paper figures though. The Emerald ATRs are operating in the range FL120 to 170, whereas the BEE Q400s are usually up around FL200 to 240 which is about the optimum for a turboprop.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by Alteagod

Not to mention the Emerald flights operate to and from same destination unlike Flybe who seem to go on daily adventures around the highways byways and airports of the UK with little chance of catching up on disruption. There schedule planning does seem overly complicated

And this is what plenty of people warned on here at the beginning and were told how can they know better than the experts running Flybe2. Choosing to operate W routes around the place and into two of Europe’s busiest airports was always going to a be a risk, especially when your fleet is so tightly scheduled.

[wanna]

Originally Posted by El Bunto

You can't just compare paper figures though. The Emerald ATRs are operating in the range FL120 to 170, whereas the BEE Q400s are usually up around FL200 to 240 which is about the optimum for a turboprop.

In the simplest terms when comparing the two types, its easier to think of a V8 (the Dash) and a 1.2ltr 3 cylinder with a turbo (the ATR). The V8 is fast, the V8 can go higher etc etc but its always going to burn more fuel. The 1.2ltre 3 cylinder, whilst it doesn't have much umf... it can happily sit at 65mph on the motorway sipping fuel. The ATR can go up to FL250 just like the Dash, but runs out of puff usually. The ATR burns significantly less fuel even when the dash is at its optimum... I mean look at the engines...

[ItsonlyMeagain]

Well, as Flybe only started operations in Apr 22, “always” is a big word to describe their aircraft routings.

Me

[DUB19]

KLM have added a flight each Saturday on the BHD-AMS for the winter season so will be daily in November/December dropping to 6x weekly from January to March.

[mart901]

U2 have GLA on sale, from 31.10.22.

[True Blue]

At 3 per week. Are these Ezy flights to Bhd designed to act as a spoiler for others at Bhd or is there a spat going on with Bfs? I see, at the moment, the Brs and LPL routes do not continue beyond the end of the summer timetable.

[EI-BUD]

Originally Posted by True Blue

At 3 per week. Are these Ezy flights to Bhd designed to act as a spoiler for others at Bhd or is there a spat going on with Bfs? I see, at the moment, the Brs and LPL routes do not continue beyond the end of the summer timetable.

TrueBlue, I think you could be onto something here. I'm sure easyJet are none too pleased that Ryanair are coming back to BFS. To date the routes added at BHD have very much been filling in the gaps at BHD to cities where easyJet itself already has a route ex BFS. I think the current routes will be extended albeit at low frequencies. These routes are generally late booking markets so there is plenty of time for them to be added to the schedule.

[CabinCrewe]

Originally Posted by True Blue

At 3 per week. Are these Ezy flights to Bhd designed to act as a spoiler for others at Bhd or is there a spat going on with Bfs? I see, at the moment, the Brs and LPL routes do not continue beyond the end of the summer timetable.

Yeah deffo more to it than true demand. 3/wk no real use. Lets see what comes of it

[True Blue]

Splitting services between airports like this can leave one airport with a poor service and the other with a reduced service. So we will have Lgw from Bhd at twice daily, with on some days Bfs to Lgw reduced from 7 to 5. On many of the days when 7 flights would have been the norm, we now see maybe 6. Had these all been from Bfs, we could have seen maybe 8 daily on the best days. At that number, you could have a really good service. But no, lets put on a service that is average for all.

[AndrewH52]

Originally Posted by True Blue

At 3 per week. Are these Ezy flights to Bhd designed to act as a spoiler for others at Bhd or is there a spat going on with Bfs? I see, at the moment, the Brs and LPL routes do not continue beyond the end of the summer timetable.

Liverpool now on sale until the end of the winter season at up to 7 per week.

[mart901]

BE MAN back on sale 3x daily from winter timetable

[mart901]

BE - IOM has been loaded 6x weekly for winter, no prices yet.

[Alteagod]

I think it's the LHR route now going via IOM.

[euromanxdude]

Originally Posted by Alteagod

I think it's the LHR route now going via IOM.

it’s BHD-IOM change of flight number then IOM-LHR

[shamrock7seal]

Eastern is stopping their SOU flights, no surprise at all, doesn’t need 3 carriers on the route

[dantheflyboy]

EI BHX Delay

Anyone know why Aerlingus Birmingham flight has a 7+ hour delay? Few aircraft movements so surely not due Tech aircraft. Staff shortage? Highly unusual delay for them.

[DUB19]

Originally Posted by dantheflyboy

Anyone know why Aerlingus Birmingham flight has a 7+ hour delay? Few aircraft movements so surely not due Tech aircraft. Staff shortage? Highly unusual delay for them.

EI-GPO flew BHD-GLA last night but the return was cancelled and the aircraft is still on the ground there so I assume it’s probably something to do with that.