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Old 1st Nov 2021, 08:23
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This is a problem of their own making. They have made too many cabin crew redundant.
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Old 1st Nov 2021, 18:07
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Not sure that lack of CC was the reason for all the Sub Charters yesterday as it was the end of the Summer season there was always going to be a number of ferry flights so it made sense to use some ad hoc carriers based in mainland Europe to cover some of the the flights with the Belgian OO-MAX operating a revenue flight out to Tenerife for Tui Belgium as start of their winter programme then operated the last of the Tui summer flights back to EMA.

I am told it was also complicated more by Red tape ,due to some crew being on a contract only until 31/10 that created issues with liability insurance when the flight arrived back in the UK past Midnight.

Jet2 did it in a slightly different way with doing a few double drops in the UK and Greek Islands along with aircraft swaps down route
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Old 1st Nov 2021, 18:33
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I noticed G-TAWW flew to Toronto too so the leasing to Sunwings back this winter ? Ironic some of the fleet still carry branding 2 year since the last stint.
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Old 1st Nov 2021, 21:42
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What’s ‘ironic’ about that?
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 01:00
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I assume because G-TAWW isn't one of the ones wearing the Sunwing livery.

Regarding the charters, I was very surprised at the use of Privilege Style from BHX given that some TUI aircraft were sitting idle but either of the matters above could possibly explain that.

D-ATUO (TUI Germany 738) flew HAJ*-ABZ-TFS-ABZ-*HER-HAJ (*ferry) over the past couple of days which was rather odd as two ferry flights were still needed but, again, could be due to the above.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 11:55
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What's odd about that? Every single TUI branded flight from anywhere in Europe to Heraklion over the past 8 days would've been a ferry, it's the end of the season. Operating ABZ-HER-HAJ saved an extra ferry sector and allowed them to reposition the crew back to Germany efficiently. Not odd at all.

As for which aircraft go to Sunwing, this will be dictated largely by maintenance cycles and will be aircraft that don't need to visit a hangar for 3-4 months. Maintenance is obviously pre-planned months in advance, so they'll know which aircraft are going and plan accordingly. Whilst stickers can be added and removed fairly quickly and cheaply, repainting a whole tail costs money and isn't a priority during 18 months of little income.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 19:58
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Yep. I'm just surprised that any employer would be shocked. Entirely predictable given the pay and working conditions. There are plenty of pilots in the same boat.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 23:34
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I was speaking to a member of BHX crew today about the Privilege Style charter on Sunday they confirmed this one was caused by a lack of BHX cabin crew as they operated AYT,AGP,PFO,ACE and LPA on 787s over the weekend plus the LH routes started up as well so had a set of crew down route in MBJ and needed a set of crew for Monday am CUN so simply didn’t have enough crew
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 12:47
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G-OBYG en route to St Athan. Is that leaving TUI now or in for maintenance?
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 12:59
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Maintenance prior to leaving the fleet 25 Nov.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 14:32
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Glad I made the effort to watch its departure
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 14:35
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Are any 767’s going to see next year? I know G-OBYH has been at BHX for weeks now without moving but what about YF/YK?
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 15:48
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Shame. Travelled back from Indonesia on YG at the end of the Hadj. Seems like a lifetime ago now.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 22:14
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YK has just gone to Stockholm so is clearly going to be spending some time (perhaps the whole winter?) flying for TUI fly Nordic. That just leaves YF which last flew on Monday. Unsurprisingly it doesn’t look like many of the winter flights will justify the use of a 767 which is usually the case even pre-Covid.
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Old 5th Nov 2021, 20:28
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Left Stockholm this afternoon as TOM925P last tracked heading east over Russia so that maybe gone too.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 14:30
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Are any short haul routes planned to be operated by 787's for Summer 22, previously it was shown in the booking stage but this feature seems to have been removed.

Particularly interested in Gatwick to Paphos flights
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 23:33
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it might be worth you checking google flights, the TUI aircraft types are now showing, but of course all subject to change!

Birmingham is currently showing 2 787s based for summer 2022, 1 presumably a 789 will do long haul every day, the other a 788, is scheduled to operate short haul flights Monday-Saturday, and a long haul flight on Sunday. Pretty certain Gatwick and Manchester will also have short haul flying on the dreamliners.
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 14:05
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Where is G-TUMA last seen going to Brussels 7/11, has it joined TUI fly fleet. I also note we are only operating 2 767-3 YF and YK are YG and YH wfu.
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Old 29th Nov 2021, 21:42
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Summer 22 A321 Ops

Hi all,

Just booked a holiday for July 2022, both flights TOM4356 (LGW-FUE), TOM4669 (FUE-LGW) are shown as being operated by TUI.
However the return flight 4669, is showing as being operated by a A321 and not a B737. Any idea who will be operating that flight?

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Old 29th Nov 2021, 22:41
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My guess EZY, TUI booking space with them on a few routes now.
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