Wizzair-3

[TBSC]

Yep, that's the new norm, people are impressed that their Wizz flight is delayed over 3 hours and they get what they are entitled to by the law.

[Dmitri]

Originally Posted by Mayfield62

My Wizz Air flight from Warsaw to Liverpool was delayed by over 3 and a half hours on 9th July and I put a EU-261 claim the next day. The money was paid into my account 18 days later. I was quite impressed.

Hard to believe. There is no monetary compensations in this law (EU 261/2004) for delays.

[Mayfield62]

Yes there is. You are talking rubbish Dmitri

[Big Tudor]

Originally Posted by Dmitri

Hard to believe. There is no monetary compensations in this law (EU 261/2004) for delays.

Not according to the EU.
"If you arrived at your final destination with a delay of more than 3 hours, you are entitled to compensation, unless the delay was due to extraordinary circumstances. The airline has to prove this by providing, for example, extracts from logbooks or incident reports. The air carrier should give this evidence to the relevant national enforcement body as well as to the passengers concerned in line with national provisions on access to documents."

Compensation - delay at arrival

Amount in EUR Distance

250 1 500 km or less

400 More than 1 500 km within the EU and all other flights between 1 500 and 3 500 km

600 More than 3 500 km

[pabely]

Originally Posted by pabely

9H-WBK has been used on W9 route from Luton to Tirana last few days, but G-WUKM has been laid up for 3 days so perhaps technically a sub for a sick plane.

Back in service today at LTN so need to charter Titan should have now gone, until GTF engine checks start.

[Dmitri]

Originally Posted by Mayfield62

Yes there is. You are talking rubbish Dmitri

I don't know who is talking rubbish here.
Please find a link describing the law in force: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...x%3A32004R0261

Big Tudor, you can use those funny websites as much as you want, however, I would suggest to stick to the official law.
Please refer to articles 6 and 9. Article 8 (1) (a) is also relevant for delays of 5 hours or more.

[Big Tudor]

Originally Posted by Dmitri

Big Tudor, you can use those funny websites as much as you want, however, I would suggest to stick to the official law.
Please refer to articles 6 and 9. Article 8 (1) (a) is also relevant for delays of 5 hours or more.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...x_en.htm#delay

A link to that “funny website” , or the official EU website as it is also known.

[Dmitri]

Originally Posted by Big Tudor

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...x_en.htm#delay

A link to that “funny website” , or the official EU website as it is also known.

Apologies, I assumed wrongly you were quoting something like AirHelp.
At the bottom of this page there is a link (last one) on the EU legislation in force. I have quoted the relevant articles in my previous post.
Sorry, but it does not provide any provisions for monetary compensations for delays regardless of someone's interpretation of it.

[Big Tudor]

Click on the hyperlink where it says "compensation". This takes you to the table showing the monetary amounts as set out by the EU relative to the length of sector.

[pabely]

For those doubtful people about booking Wizzair, they are still expanding well.
https://www.sharecast.com/news/news-...-14583144.html

[LTNman]

Last airline I would fly as they see CCJ's as medals of honour.

[Seljuk]

Suceava base will be closed by end of October.

[TBSC]

10% capacity reduction for H2.
Wizz expects P&W engine issues to limit capacity - 14:31:33 11 Sep 2023 - WIZZ News article | London Stock Exchange

[pabely]

Some here will hate this https://simpleflying.com/wizz-air-un...a-huge-network

[davidjohnson6]

Wizz have recently been adding routes to
Baku - Abu Dhabi, Budapest, Rome
Yerevan - Abu Dhabi, Dortmund, Larnaca, Milan, Rome, Sofia, Venice, Vienna

It looks like the ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan has collapsed, and hostilities have resumed. Any thoughts as to what Wizz does next ? Use it as an excuse to suspend some routes for a couple of months while they deal with the A320 engine problem ?

[pabely]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Any thoughts as to what Wizz does next ? Use it as an excuse to suspend some routes for a couple of months while they deal with the A320 engine problem ?

I'm sure GTX will be paying through the nose with compensation, should give them some breathing space to ram up some areas but might defer some announced routes yet to prove themselves.

[772]

Originally Posted by Dmitri

Hard to believe. There is no monetary compensations in this law (EU 261/2004) for delays.

are you for real?

[davidjohnson6]

The latest issue of Wizz's in flight magazine is pushing very hard to promote visiting Saudi Arabia as a tourist. No, not as a pilgrim or being a resident... but going for a short visit seeing the sights and doing whatever seems fun to do. The push is not just on the Abu Dhabi subdidiary fleet... but also in the seat back pocket of the UK, Hungary and Malta fleets.

I'd be curious to visit Jeddah, Riyadh or some of the other places... but a tourist visa is expensive (albeit not that difficult to get) and a free 96 hour transit visa requires tickets in and out of Saudi with either Saudia or Flynas.

Wizz probably could be good for Saudi tourism... they are cheap enough that I'd take a punt on visiting Saudi if it included a free or very cheap visa... but not being able to sponsor free 96 hour transit visas makes this a non-starter for me and probably others who might be interested. Is being able to sponsor Saudi transit visas definitely politically impossible ? Does Wizz even need foreign tourists to fill their Saudi flights, or would this be just a bonus ?

[pabely]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

The latest issue of Wizz's in flight magazine is pushing very hard to promote visiting Saudi Arabia as a tourist. Not just the Abu Dhabi subdidiary fleet... but also the UK, Hungary and Malta fleets. I'd be curious to visit Jeddah, Riyadh or some of the other places... but a tourist visa is expensive (albeit not that difficult to get) and a free 96 hour transit visa requires tickets in and out of Saudi with either Saudia or Flynas.

Wizz probably could be good for Saudi tourism... they are cheap enough that I'd take a punt on visiting Saudi if it included a free or very cheap visa... but not being able to sponsor free 96 hour transit visas makes this a non-starter for me and probably others who might be interested. Is being able to sponsor Saudi transit visas definitely politically impossible ? Does Wizz even need foreign tourists to fill their Saudi flights, or would this be just a bonus ?

I think the Visa is now 80USD, like Egypt can be done on arrival and valid for 90 days.
The Jordan Visa is about 40USD and that hasn't stopped that route from being a success.

[davidjohnson6]

Egypt visas are free for Sharm el Sheikh and US$25 for anywhere else. Just hand over the cash, and you get a sticker to put in your passport... absolutely minimal form filling, 1 minute processing time, and almost zero chance of rejection.... it is really just a $25 admission fee, and sufficiently cheap and easy to obtain that it's not of concern.

Saudi wants $80 plus insurance and processing fees... which comes to $120 per person in total... enough to make you think twice... unless you are in transit for under 96 hours in which case it becomes free and drastically simpler. Is there no way for Wizz to sponsor these 96 hour transit visas ?