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Old 28th Jul 2021, 14:51
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Ah I thought it was starting in Aug sometime.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 17:21
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The return ticket price for some dates in August and September on Easyjet is already 182 with a once a day service to Gatwick at random times each day! So much for a great service low cost airline! Time for someone to step in and sort this mess out.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 19:05
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EZY have a good appetite into JER with flights from 5 UK airports currently, LGW being 3 daily, so where is the fault, IOM Gov not supporting inbound tourism?
Even Jet2 are in with the action.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 10:33
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Already some return flights to London Gatwick showing as 250.00 and thats before choosing a seat which was free on BA/Loganair. So much for the low cost budget airline.... yet again!
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 11:15
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There are also dozens of dates where a one-way flight to/from LGW is under 50, and many where it is under 30.

You must realise that we are in a transitional period where travel is slowly starting to happen again, but it'll take time for true levels and patterns of demand, to become established. While that happens, we all have to work within what we have.

It is easy to criticise the IOM Government, but no on here knows what Loganair wanted to operate LHR, and what demand was projected to be, bearing in mind that many onward connections simply aren't available or practical, at present. As a Manx Tax Payer, and regular traveller, I think they've done the right thing. If there is a need for intervention, once demand has returned to something like normal, that might be a different matter.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 12:55
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I am not quite sure what website you are looking at but if you look at flights in August the minimum one way fare is 57 with most around 95-120 and some up to 134 one way.

I agree that we are in a transition period and this makes it all the more important to ensure the routes have a 'helping hand'. I therefore do not agree re Heathrow or London City as an option take a look at what is going on in Teeside. There the Mayor is subsiding a London Heathrow service they now have three flights a day with Loganair because they recognise the strategic importance to the area and the potential investment the route brings. They are not even an island and have train options and yet they seem to get it!
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 13:29
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I therefore do not agree re Heathrow or London City as an option take a look at what is going on in Teeside. There the Mayor is subsiding a London Heathrow service they now have three flights a day with Loganair because they recognise the strategic importance to the area and the potential investment the route brings.
Is he? Evidence? Teesside, btw
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 13:30
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A picture paints a thousand words....




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Old 29th Jul 2021, 13:35
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Yes he is just do a quick google search!
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 13:45
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I literally have no idea what your picture is really showing! Just do a quick search for flights and see how much the ticket prices are. 133, 153 most are 90 one way. So I dont think your picture shows what is really going on! And I would hazard a guess they will continue to climb whilst there are no alternatives. End of as you say!
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 13:57
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Just priced up Loganair 6-8 Aug and it's 324 return IOM-LHR
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 17:28
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It is actually 10 UK airports - Edinburgh, Glasgow, Belfast, Newcastle, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Bristol, Luton & Gatwick. Jet 2 serve Leeds, Newcastle, Manchester & Stansted, I believe.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 19:10
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....along with BHX and EMA
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 20:01
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Makes it look even worse then!
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 20:19
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JER and IOM climates are a little different, JER has always driven strong summer demand
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 07:33
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Does the picture really need to be explained to you? It’s quite obvious what it’s showing but that data doesn’t fit in to your agenda, so your just playing dumb?
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 08:41
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The data show displays exactly the point I am making in a very unclear way. There has been a price hike since August 11th and a lot of one way fares are over 100.To the earlier poster who said there are dozens under 50 then really I cant see that maybe I need my eyes tested? Its all a far cry from the 28 and 22 fares that were previously available. And on a separate note Easyjet are not even showing any flights at all in November on Tuesdays and Wednedsays they really do know how to offer a great service dont they?
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 10:25
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So what you want is a twice daily year round service at peak times for 22 each way?

In recent times the Island has had a LCY and a LHR connection and both times it hasn’t worked because people are not willing to pay what is required to run the flights - neither the pax nor the local Gov.

If you want more than the market supplied flights then someone needs to put their hand in their pocket.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 11:05
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No I do not want to see 22 fares on the London market it is not sustainable and its exactly that sort of fare that drives out smaller operators. The reason I made the comment about 22 and 28 tickets was because a poster earlier was claiming there are dozens of seats below 50 and that is not the case certainly in August where demand is most needed right now. The net effect is we end up with a once a day service on a 156 seater and the operator who proclaims to be a low cost budget airline starts charging 150 upward for a return ticket.

People need to understand that a transport policy that allows us to end up with one flight a day to the capital is flawed even post covid. If that means intervention to assist then I would suggest that is for the good of the island in the long term.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 12:51
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150 return is not bad. In August I can see tickets below 50 each way. out of 31 days, 6 days have tickets below 50 one way and another 14 days below 100 one way. Certainly not bad for less than a month out at the height of summer. In September almost every day has tickets below 50.

On the route from LGW to IOM there are 5 days in august with flights under 50 one way and 16 with under 100. So please stop with the argument that there are no cheap flights. There’s plenty. In fact a majority of flights for august are under 100 one way which given the market is fairly decent.
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