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Old 29th Apr 2024, 01:36
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I'm not sure it s a strategic decision to reduce services but one born out of necessity - didn't the new CEO state he wanted to expand the business when he took over?
The UK Pilot market is buoyant at the moment, especially for experienced Pilots with the right to live and work in the UK, Logan are haemorrhaging Pilots far better career enhancing and paying options.
Probably a wise move to retreat to the core business until the dust settled - I think Hinkles saw what was coming.

Scotland actually NEEDS an airline to service the Islands, but the new Scottish tax rates won't have helped.
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Probably a wise move to retreat to the core business until the dust settled
The recent changes are taking on a life of their own - they've dropped GLA-SOU now EZY have jumped on it, NCL/MME-ABZ because the market is dropping and trimmed some other services to maintain stability. More like 'trimming' rather than 'retreating'
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The above two posts have added some of the insight I was after. Namely the ferries being crap and there being cheap tickets thanks to an air discount scheme. Whist this explains a bit the need for tax payer funded flights on a mode of transport that goes against the environmental grain to low population islands, I’m not sure how it can sustain a business with 36 aircraft. Time will tell. Be interesting to know what their top 10 performing routes were last year.
So are you against state supported air transport to island communities where there is ferry provision?
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
I’m not sure how it can sustain a business with 36 aircraft. Time will tell. Be interesting to know what their top 10 performing routes were last year.
I can recommend Loganair : A Scottish Survivor by former CEO Scott Grier and Scotland's Airline The First 23 Years by Iain Hutchison from the usual sources. It also explains how they expanded out of Scotland into SOU before events made sure those routes went elsewhere in the group.
If you want to understand how Loganair outlasted so many of their peers.
*IF*.
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 13:13
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Time to step back everyone.

There is a long established rule in PPRuNe: Play the Ball - not the Player.

We do not need any more personal accusations. I am watching.
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 13:21
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
So are you against state supported air transport to island communities where there is ferry provision?
Never said I was against anything. Merely questioned it. I don’t think it’s illogical to question the irony of subsidising air travel to tiny remote islands when there is a climate crisis. There are key airports like AMS who are having to reduce their amount of flights and LHR which isn’t seemingly allowed it’s third runway being impacted by environmental concerns yet flights to tiny remote islands aren’t allowed to be questioned? I don’t think this is an unreasonable question and I qualified it by saying I am no expert on Scottish highland routes. Not that it matters but I have close family in Scotland and visit regularly. Love the country.

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I can recommend Loganair : A Scottish Survivor by former CEO Scott Grier and Scotland's Airline The First 23 Years by Iain Hutchison from the usual sources. It also explains how they expanded out of Scotland into SOU before events made sure those routes went elsewhere in the group.
If you want to understand how Loganair outlasted so many of their peers.
*IF*.
Of course but since Flybe’s collapse and post pandemic they have grown much larger than the Loganair that focused on its core market in Scotland. A fleet of 30 seater 340s and a few 50 seat Saab 2000s has largely been replaced with larger 70 seat ATRs and 50 seat business jets. As I said time will tell. Just an opinion on a forum.

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The request is that EVERYONE stops making personal remarks, Discuss the subject but DO NOT accuse others of ANYTHING.

If you think you are making a 'light hearted' reference - make it CLEAR in text and with emojis.
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Re environmental issues. I seem to remember that when Jonathan Hinkles was berated about this with “greens” saying people should take trains instead he pointed out that the nearest train station to The Shetlands is Bergen.
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