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Old 6th Oct 2022, 10:14
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You wanted Alicante, we're giving you a... PUMPKIN CARVING COMPETITION! 🎃

Not quite the same thing (we're sorry) but here's to some fun this Halloween season.


The above is from the airportís Twitter feed. Is it me, or are they losing the plot.
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I refer you to my post #710...
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The above is from the airportís Twitter feed. Is it me, or are they losing the plot.
They've already lost the plot I think it's fair to say. How is the airport going to survive winter without a single scheduled commercial flight, then shouting on a near daily basis about a single route they seem to portray as the airports saviour - Madness!
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Old 6th Oct 2022, 10:51
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It was a flawed (floored) business model, based on the principles of airport of last resort. It doesn’t mean SEN can’t succeed, it just means it will be harder when there is capacity around London.

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Old 6th Oct 2022, 11:27
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They sold some (perhaps all) to Wizz at LTN
Rechecked ACL and I agree now, dropped off spreadsheets. Something else interesting noted but will not post here as has no reference to SEN.
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https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/230...d-next-summer/

So the same as this year then. There will come a point when the Blackpool solution will be implemented.

Does SEN still have any active flying clubs or were they booted out to make way for the airliners?
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Old 7th Oct 2022, 09:08
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Originally Posted by LTNman
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/230...d-next-summer/

So the same as this year then. There will come a point where the Blackpool solution will be implemented.

Not the same. AGP reduced to 4 X week from 6. Faro has increased from 2 X week to 4 September only. No flights currently on Tuesdays or Saturdays. So when you said in a previous post it is a floored business model you are literally correct IMO. Whether it is fair to say it was flawed prior to Covid is another debate.

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Old 7th Oct 2022, 09:22
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One slight glimmer of hope I guess is that new EZY routes are usually announced separate to seasonal schedules!
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Originally Posted by LTNman
It was a flawed (floored) business model, based on the principles of airport of last resort.
It's not far off the mark to say that SEN was largely an airport of last resort up to Spring 2020 as the Covid years showed. I don't think the business model was flawed though as I don't remember anyone then thinking or suggesting that the paucity of slots at other LON airports was likely to end any time soon, until Covid struck out of the blue. It's true to say that SEN had the least resilience to any serious traffic downturn and the results of that weakness are clear to see and due to totally unforeseeable factors.

All this talk of ALC, will they or won't they, is laughable and make zero difference to SEN's prospects either way.

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It looks as though there will be a new route announcement, perhaps AMS (despite what I said before) or JER. Unless anyone has any other suggestions as to why FAO arrives at 16:30 and departs at 20:15?
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
It looks as though there will be a new route announcement, perhaps AMS (despite what I said before) or JER. Unless anyone has any other suggestions as to why FAO arrives at 16:30 and departs at 20:15?
Great to see someoneís on the ball and dealing with facts. A lot of emotion on here at the moment.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
It looks as though there will be a new route announcement, perhaps AMS (despite what I said before) or JER. Unless anyone has any other suggestions as to why FAO arrives at 16:30 and departs at 20:15?
Very well spotted Airport Planner1.

My money would be on JER. I cannot see any point in operating SEN-AMS twice a week.
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Very well spotted Airport Planner1.

My money would be on JER. I cannot see any point in operating SEN-AMS twice a week.
It rises to 4x weekly in Sep, although perhaps the schedule will be further revised. Thinking about it due to Brexit it would be AMS. Iím not sure they could do JER on an EU reg?
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
It rises to 4x weekly in Sep, although perhaps the schedule will be further revised. Thinking about it due to Brexit it would be AMS. Iím not sure they could do JER on an EU reg?

You could be right - I havenít a scoobie. Worth pointing out though that Jersey has never been part of the EU neither is it in the UK.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
It looks as though there will be a new route announcement, perhaps AMS (despite what I said before) or JER. Unless anyone has any other suggestions as to why FAO arrives at 16:30 and departs at 20:15?
You can't get an AMS in that gap.
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Originally Posted by TartinTon
You can't get an AMS in that gap.
Yes you can, easily. Eg:

Arr: 16:30
SEN-AMS: 17:00-19:05
AMS-SEN: 19:45-19:45
Dep: 20:15

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[QUOTE= Iím not sure they could do JER on an EU reg?[/QUOTE]

I don't think it would be Cabotage (which would almost certainly not be permitted) as Jersey is not a part of the UK but has a separate international identity. I'm guessing that SEN-JER-SEN would operate within Fifth Freedom rules under easyJet's EU AOC, although things may be different nowadays.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Yes you can, easily. Eg:

Arr: 16:30
SEN-AMS: 17:00-19:05
AMS-SEN: 19:45-19:45
Dep: 20:15
Looking at the three EZY flights yesterday, SEN handling will have to up their game to turn around in 30mins.
AMS if it has to go via a remote runway would never make 40 mins turnaround either, more like 60-70 mins in AMS on a good day.
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[QUOTE AMS if it has to go via a remote runway would never make 40 mins turnaround either, more like 60-70 mins in AMS on a good day.[/QUOTE]

I agree that a 30 mins turnround in AMS could be problematical but EZY are scheduling 30 mins at AMS for next summer.
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Article from September but still relevant.

Painful to report but SEN is by far Europe’s worst performing airport in terms of Covid recovery, when compared to 350 airports.

https://travelradar.aero/british-air...ecovery-rates/

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