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Old 7th Jul 2021, 07:44
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" UK Border Agency complicit with not treating all passengers, from all airlines equally which surely ought to be one of the fundamental rules for any border agency."

But they've been fast tracking Business Class passengers for years
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 07:50
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Have they? As I have never travelled through LHR in business class, and have avoided the place for the best part of 3 decades I was blissfully ignorant.!! But would I be correct in assuming that business class passengers on all carriers can avail themselves of the fast lane? I use Eurotunnel regularly, and priority customers can jump the queues there but only to the point when they encounter immigration, at which point the sit in the same queue as the rest of us plebs, though they have probably pushed their way in further up the queue.
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 08:31
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I thought BA and VS were participating in a trial of fast tracking. Therefore, if it works, the other airlines will be invited to participate.
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 11:34
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T2 Works

Does anyone know when the works between T2 and its satellite are meant to be completed and the taxiway between the two finally fully opened? Seems to have been taking years to complete. Looks to result in the gain of 4 new stands and of course save a lot of fuel as planes won’t have to go the long way around any more.
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 13:20
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Nope, not all carriers subscribe (ie pay for) fast track access for their front-end punters.
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 14:40
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Most do ...... its one of the best reasons to pay the extra
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 15:48
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Regarding immigration it’s usually only long haul flights where the carrier paid for fast track.

for Security, almost every carrier offers it - at T2 the fast track is branded with Star Alliance logos so all those carriers get it.
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 15:50
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You mean airlines pay for most airports. LH might pay for LHR, but might not pay in a destination where they have only a small number of business passengers (or whatever other reason the airline might deem a good reason to save on the fees).
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Old 7th Jul 2021, 23:05
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I do hope that someone eventually answers your question as it's something that I have asked several times. Like yourself I'm awaiting for someone to respond 😉
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Old 8th Jul 2021, 06:37
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I suspect the answer is buried somewhere in the 600 pages of this document: Heathrow Airport H7 Revised Business Plan (Detailed) December 2020

Good luck.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 12:00
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Ok pass ha ha.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 14:35
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those Border control queues look horrific even before reopening… Shapps saying the problems will be abroad at the other end… ?
Not sure anyone can complain when they’ve been warned… #ViralHotbed
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 15:37
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BBC news reports from discussion on Radio 4 'Today'
Lucy Moreton, the Immigration Service Union's professional officer, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the government needed to recruit more Border Force workers to cope with the increased demand. Ordinary passport checks took two to four minutes per person, she said, adding that those involving the Covid-related documents increased this to eight to 12 minutes.

"At the moment we are seeing peak-time queues somewhere in the one-to-two-hour mark, where we have got several aircraft that arrive at the same time," Ms Moreton added. She told the BBC News website that larger passenger numbers would further slow checks and create airport queues "three times longer" than at present.

In response, Mr Shapps admitted travel would "be more disrupted than it was back in 2019", but the issue was "going to be on the check-in side rather than the border side" at Heathrow and elsewhere.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 16:09
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Not sure anyone can complain when they’ve been warned
No but they can be put off travel in the first place.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 16:54
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CabinCrewe

You still have a right to complain about poor service. Just because everyone says it’s going to be a poor service doesn’t make that acceptable. The rest of the world seems able to run their airport without hour long queues and still apply restrictions on who is entering.

It’s theatrical. Long queues mean the public will think there must be tough checks going on and it looks like they are being tough in the daily mail.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 17:29
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Latest estimate is Summer 2022.
A lot of the work has been below ground, which is now complete.
All work has been interrupted/delayed due to Covid and resultant drop in traffic.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 19:05
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Interesting, thanks for clarifying. Amazed they don’t want to get it done just to help ops.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 19:55
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Currently many types of building material are at elevated prices. I guess it will depend on the what the contracts say about finishing on time and paying more - or it not being so urgent to finish the project.
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Old 12th Jul 2021, 16:15
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57804447

Heathrow getting busy, but the staff are still isolating.
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Old 12th Jul 2021, 19:23
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Im fast losing sympathy for anyone entertaining a visit to LHR… if you go not expecting hours of queuing and high risk of asymptomatic covid transfer, you are way braver than I.
And why are people surprised its chaos?
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