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Old 8th Dec 2023, 11:05
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86
The UK Government has announced its response to Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill’s independent Union Connectivity Review.

Many of the recommendations relate to issues where the responsibility for transport is devolved, particularly in Northern Ireland - although I know that Stormont isn't currently sitting at the moment.


As part of this, Translink are to conduct a £700k study on the feasibility of re-opening the Antrim-Lisburn railway line, which could see the creation of an additional stop to help serve BFS.
While it would be great to have a railway service into Belfast City centre, I'm not sure it'd be any quicker than the existing bus service. The railway from Aldergrove to Europa via Lisburn is around 25miles, factor in having to integrate a timetable with existing services on the currently active part of the line, and how many trains Translink would dedicate to it, I'd doubt you'd see anything more than an hourly service. Plus the line is still a significant distance from the terminal, so need a shuttle to it.
Though it would be great for those wanting to travel via Antrim/Lisburn stations, save having to transit through Lanyon Place.
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Old 8th Dec 2023, 12:12
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Originally Posted by PinOnTheRight
While it would be great to have a railway service into Belfast City centre, I'm not sure it'd be any quicker than the existing bus service. The railway from Aldergrove to Europa via Lisburn is around 25miles, factor in having to integrate a timetable with existing services on the currently active part of the line, and how many trains Translink would dedicate to it, I'd doubt you'd see anything more than an hourly service. Plus the line is still a significant distance from the terminal, so need a shuttle to it.
Though it would be great for those wanting to travel via Antrim/Lisburn stations, save having to transit through Lanyon Place.
Bear in mind many people travel from the N and NW and connect with the bus service from Antrim Rail Station
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Old 13th Dec 2023, 13:16
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Ryanair adding a 6th weekly flight to Alicante for Summer 2024 using a ALC based aircraft, Sunday flights loaded into system but showing as 'Sold Out'.
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More changes for Ryanair for S24 being loaded into system.

ALC now showing Daily flights
FAO showing 4 Weekly
OPO showing 2 weekly

Likely more changes will happen in the next few weeks.

Turin flights for Winter 24/25 being loaded into system. Same date and time as this winter.

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Old 15th Dec 2023, 15:03
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CAA

CAA stats out for October 5.687 million rolling figure
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TUI flights operated by Freebird to Antalya removed for S24, was only a short season for four weeks. Still bookable for S25.

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Fourth weekly flight loaded into system to Malaga for S24. Tuesday flight added using a based aircraft.
Departs 09:05
Arrives 16:00
This will fill all gaps for the two based aircraft for S24
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Old 21st Dec 2023, 21:26
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Will Warsaw ever happen? Still on website but no flights available
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Old 23rd Dec 2023, 09:45
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Just been booking flights mid-January on a Wednesday to Lgw ex Bfs. 2 flights operating on the day I need to travel to Lgw, 1 to Ltn and 2 to Stn. I don't think I have ever seen such savage reductions as I am seeing for January/February as I am seeing now on Ezy ( excluding Covid). What is wrong with this airline? I know demand drops off at that time of the year, but to that extent?
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Just been booking flights mid-January on a Wednesday to Lgw ex Bfs. 2 flights operating on the day I need to travel to Lgw, 1 to Ltn and 2 to Stn. I don't think I have ever seen such savage reductions as I am seeing for January/February as I am seeing now on Ezy ( excluding Covid). What is wrong with this airline? I know demand drops off at that time of the year, but to that extent?
I would suggest "what's wrong" is a perfect storm of post-covid reduced business travel combined with high energy costs and increased mortgage rates. Air travel for leisure is for most people a 'want' not a 'need' and 'needs' should always precidence.
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Old 23rd Dec 2023, 12:38
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A Wednesday in January is about as low as you can go in terms of demand, even on domestics.

Airlines already lose money in winter, no point adding to the losses I guess.
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Take a look at Bhd/Lgw in January hardly hardly touched,on saturday 2 flights to Gatwick compared to just 1 at there base Bfs and don't tell me a the route is any different 18 miles down the road soTrue Blue does have a point to disagree with the schedule they plan to operate.
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Old 23rd Dec 2023, 13:29
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Originally Posted by allnamestaken1
Take a look at Bhd/Lgw in January hardly hardly touched,on saturday 2 flights to Gatwick compared to just 1 at there base Bfs and don't tell me a the route is any different 18 miles down the road soTrue Blue does have a point to disagree with the schedule they plan to operate.
Agree with TB they are ruining the BFS / LGW route
Are they going to end up with domestic routes out of BHD and international routes out of BFS??
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Originally Posted by allnamestaken1
Take a look at Bhd/Lgw in January hardly hardly touched,on saturday 2 flights to Gatwick compared to just 1 at there base Bfs and don't tell me a the route is any different 18 miles down the road soTrue Blue does have a point to disagree with the schedule they plan to operate.
If yields are higher at BHD (I don’t know the answer) then surely that would be an acceptable rationale. The city and wider region still have a service and both airports are still served. There’s no point carting around fresh air. January is bleak. Even so, a quick look shows that BFS-LGW is at least three daily for the most part.
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It's worth having a look at the CAA stats to gain an understanding.

BHD-LGW is some 6,000 higher in Oct compared to last year. Add to that nearly 4,000 pax that flew BHD-LTN with limited impact on BFS-LTN. Between FR + U2 there's an additional 20,000 on STN. There's also growth on BHD-LCY over 3,000.

All this can't be just pure growth, BHD-LHR has took a hit and, needless to say so has BFS-LGW. It comes to January and fighting to fill aircraft that you'll not likely to succeed at just isn't worth it. If you look across the airports U2 have a huge schedule to London and having flexibility on where you take off and land from is key to getting a good price.
I'd just kinda put to bed the notion of the shuttle service schedule of the 80's/90's. This is low cost carrier territory now, even BA have chopped away heavily on frequency.
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And what use is a really good fare if you have to depart from one airport and fly back to the other to get it? The day I booked, the first flight ex Bfs to Lgw is at 2.30pm. Really? I have travelled Bfs- Lgw lots of times in January over the years on Ezy and rarely saw a light load. The current offering leaves a lot to be desired and their actions will ruin this route. If they believe that their service is Belfast(no regard from which airport) to Gatwick, they are fools. If I have departed Bhd, but have to return to Bfs, how am I to get to my car, as most people would have to do? It seems that they don't care about that point and have decided that services from 2 airports have no impact on the passenger. As far as they are concerned, they offer a number of flights over a range of times. But seeing the schedules offered on other routes, I am not surprised as I think on this area(schedules) they seem to have lost the plot. And in my daily life, I see little sign of this cost of living crisis as I visit well used coffee shops, restaurants etc. Most people seem to have accepted what has happened and are getting on with their lives. Maybe Ezy pays too much attention to the news.
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EZY haven't lost the plot - they are following the money. Service to the customers isn't a priority, it's returns to shareholders etc.
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Old 23rd Dec 2023, 18:09
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To be fair True Blue I do take the point, I travelled overnight to Manchester for work recently out Tuesday back Wednesday. I couldn't actually use FR despite being cheaper and used EIR. The problem being FR only had 1 early morning flight both days. I could have used U2 from BFS but it's almost half the journey time at the time of day to BHD and with work paying, EIR won.


On the point of being flexible I guess it depends where you need to be in London and when but rail tickets are priced in singles a lot in England and it can be a case of arrival in LTN and return from STN for example, and not necessarily the same airline!
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And what use is a really good fare if you have to depart from one airport and fly back to the other to get it? The day I booked, the first flight ex Bfs to Lgw is at 2.30pm. Really? I have travelled Bfs- Lgw lots of times in January over the years on Ezy and rarely saw a light load. The current offering leaves a lot to be desired and their actions will ruin this route. If they believe that their service is Belfast(no regard from which airport) to Gatwick, they are fools. If I have departed Bhd, but have to return to Bfs, how am I to get to my car, as most people would have to do? It seems that they don't care about that point and have decided that services from 2 airports have no impact on the passenger. As far as they are concerned, they offer a number of flights over a range of times. But seeing the schedules offered on other routes, I am not surprised as I think on this area(schedules) they seem to have lost the plot. And in my daily life, I see little sign of this cost of living crisis as I visit well used coffee shops, restaurants etc. Most people seem to have accepted what has happened and are getting on with their lives. Maybe Ezy pays too much attention to the news.
I’m not chalking it up to the cost of living crisis. January has always been dead. It’s just after the festive period. People have spent up, they’ve travelled for parties, shopping trips etc. Culturally, there tends not to be an awful lot going on and business travel is on its backside.

Whilst I agree, having the first flight on a Wednesday at 1430 on a domestic route is sub optimal from a flexibility point of view, I’m sure that the data led to that decision.

There’s no shortage of aircraft to operate the route in January so we must conclude that it’s simply not profitable. Incidentally, there’s no shortage of aircraft in January on a Wednesday (and certain other days) because there are many other routes where the same applies.


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There does seem to be something that is appealing for easyJet at Belfast city.
I booked myself a holiday through them to Alicante and managed to get a far better deal flying from the city than the international for pretty much the same package and get the chance to use the new biz lounge which I'm sure will be a plus for a lot of travellers. I wouldn't be surprised if they increase frequency on sunshine routes
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