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Only Aberdeen and Newquay are now listed as destinations from Teesside on Easterns website. This has changed from last night when the likes of BHD and CWL were still showing.
Non of this is unexpected..it has been spoken many times on here.
If only the airport could provide as much rhetoric,enthusiasm and common sense as this thread!
So Eastern gone..probably...and Loganair splitting profits between Newcastle and Here...oh well on to chapter 25 ish!
If only the airport could provide as much rhetoric,enthusiasm and common sense as this thread!
So Eastern gone..probably...and Loganair splitting profits between Newcastle and Here...oh well on to chapter 25 ish!
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So, looks like Loganair are an Eastern replacement. Either they were pushed, or they jumped.
My sense is that the airport had too many concerns around Eastern and brought in a Plan B, either to push out Eastern or to encourage them out.
Either way, doesn’t look like we’ll need to worry about two airlines on one route and we’re left with a more reliable operator, maybe?
My sense is that the airport had too many concerns around Eastern and brought in a Plan B, either to push out Eastern or to encourage them out.
Either way, doesn’t look like we’ll need to worry about two airlines on one route and we’re left with a more reliable operator, maybe?
To be fair, Eastern's reliability has been pretty good since last March. I suspect LM's ability to interline at LHR (or Eastern's inability...) was significant once the LHR opportunity became available.
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I agree. Apart from the argument that Eastern have been loyal to Teesside over the years (and of course the more operators at the airport the better), Loganair are surely a better bet than Eastern. Eastern have also suffered from a tendency to charge big prices on the ABZ route which has alienated many regular users who face a long train journey instead.
Loganair...
However we should recognise what Eastern did to put the airport on the map last year as the 5 route launch was the biggest thing to happen to Teesside in years. The covid timing has been a disaster for them but maybe their medium term ambitions were not the same as the mayors?
Loganair...
- has better marketing (OK subjective but based on the emails and social media I see as a recent customer of both airlines)
- has a better digital operation (have Eastern even heard of mobile apps?)
- has bigger fleet (Loganair have 36 aircraft, Eastern have 13)
- is a bigger company (Loganair had sales of £120m in the year to Mar 19, v Eastern's £38m)
- flies more passengers (Loganiar flew 948k pax in 2019 v 298k for Eastern)
- is more profitable (Loganair made money pre-covid, Eastern was a regular loss maker and the bulk of the money they made in the year to Mar 2020 was due to one off items)
- has existing relationships with world leading international airlines that make codeshares and interlining possible - I do not believe Eastern even has one
However we should recognise what Eastern did to put the airport on the map last year as the 5 route launch was the biggest thing to happen to Teesside in years. The covid timing has been a disaster for them but maybe their medium term ambitions were not the same as the mayors?
As previously discussed on this thread, what exactly Stobart's role is at MME seems to be a bit of a mystery, and I've not seen anything to indicate any significant relationship between LM and Stobart?
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There is no relationship between Loganair and Stobart - at least, not any more. MME has all happened after the two companies were long headed in different directions. I can't add a lot else to this but whatever the background is certainly isn't off the back of any Loganair & Stobart relationship.
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Just watched the mayor's video and he says "...you can also go into Dublin and fly transatlantic with United".
I checked on united.com, you can book the flight already but a £400 DUB-JFK flight goes up to £5,000+ when you start at Teesside. This is an interline on an LM number rather than a codeshare which may explain the pricing as the DUB-JFK legs went into the full fare Y class. If a codeshare appears then the price should drop to normal levels. Alternatively, this could just mean that the full pricing has not yet been loaded. Nothing via LHR with United yet.
I checked on united.com, you can book the flight already but a £400 DUB-JFK flight goes up to £5,000+ when you start at Teesside. This is an interline on an LM number rather than a codeshare which may explain the pricing as the DUB-JFK legs went into the full fare Y class. If a codeshare appears then the price should drop to normal levels. Alternatively, this could just mean that the full pricing has not yet been loaded. Nothing via LHR with United yet.
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There was a relationship, LM came down to SEN including the shifting of the Derry PSO from STN. And most notably the Saab based over at CAX. Whether it really turned sour we don’t know, CAX closed due to Covid, LDY went back to STN because it wasn’t feasible to open the terminal for a handful of pax per day and the ABZ route was terminated. Prior to the big collapse BE were to launch SEN-GLA which was a LM route but it’s not clear whether LM were to end it anyway.
There was a relationship, LM came down to SEN including the shifting of the Derry PSO from STN. And most notably the Saab based over at CAX. Whether it really turned sour we don’t know, CAX closed due to Covid, LDY went back to STN because it wasn’t feasible to open the terminal for a handful of pax per day and the ABZ route was terminated. Prior to the big collapse BE were to launch SEN-GLA which was a LM route but it’s not clear whether LM were to end it anyway.
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And Loganair handling at GLA and EDI was moved back from Stobart to Menzies recently. The handling guys did a good job but the move was made because of some broader problems between the companies. Trust me when I say that the relationship which once existed isn't there any more.
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Eastern are in the process of updating their schedules, and it looks as though from the end of March - summer schedule season - Aberdeen will be running twice daily (Mon-Thu, one on Fri/Sun) with a weekdaily Southampton rotation in the middle. Newquay still slated to be twice weekly Mon/Fri at present. J41 operating all.
See the councils have had to turn down the Ski slope extravaganza at the Riverside..
300 actual jobs,prestige and who knows how many visitors spending hard earned cash in the area..
Oh well ..off to Newquay I go for my holidays with another half dozen folk.
Just wonder where they could have found that money from?
300 actual jobs,prestige and who knows how many visitors spending hard earned cash in the area..
Oh well ..off to Newquay I go for my holidays with another half dozen folk.
Just wonder where they could have found that money from?
Bit more info from the local media.
Eastern Airways transfers Teesside Airport flights to other airlines | The Northern Echo
Eastern Airways transfers Teesside Airport flights to other airlines | The Northern Echo