Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

Teesside-2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 9th Feb 2021, 20:25
  #221 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
Posts: 1,844
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The alternative, the train, is out of action due to an emergency repair to a bridge parapet.
inOban is offline  
Old 9th Feb 2021, 20:47
  #222 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
Doubt whether the two airlines are departing within 20 minutes of each other to provide extra capacity because of rail issues
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 10th Feb 2021, 06:24
  #223 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
highwideandugly

My contact tells me 14 passengers were on the flight that returned. The return leg had only 3 booked, but was cancelled.
Rottweiler22 is offline  
Old 10th Feb 2021, 09:43
  #224 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 273
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
inOban

There’s connecting road transport between the stations affected so not really much of an issue.
Atlantic Explorer is offline  
Old 10th Feb 2021, 10:40
  #225 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
Posts: 1,844
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know, but I would have thought that people travelling to or from Aberdeen for their stint on the rigs (or whatever ) would much prefer to not have to change onto a Coach for part of the journey. I'm sure that in normal times (remember them?) most of this traffic used the train.
inOban is offline  
Old 10th Feb 2021, 11:38
  #226 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
At the moment, the prices on MME-ABZ make it extremely attractive over taking the train (epecially if you are self employed and your company is not picking up the tab). The extent of the current demand is another question.

For the 6 months in 2017-18 when Loganair went head to head with Eastern, the traffic on the ABZ route was up something like 67%. After Loganair left, it dropped by 43% over the same period.
tigertanaka is offline  
Old 10th Feb 2021, 19:22
  #227 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
Got to keep the posts count up...
Cllr Hobson chaired a sub-committee at the authority which was set up to scrutinise and ask questions of the organisation's 2021/22 budget. Sub-committee members were advised by officers that the responsibility of the combined authority did not extend to a detailed budget review of a separate company relating to the airport.
Cllr Hobson, who is chairman of Middlesbrough Council and also chairs its planning committee, attempted to present the findings of his sub-committee in respect of the 2021/22 budget at a recent TVCA cabinet meeting. But he was cut short by Conservative Mr Houchen and only allowed to read out three observations the sub-committee wished to place on record.

The sub-committee said it was not given the opportunity to look at Teesside International Airport Limited, which is a subsidiary of the combined authority. Therefore it was not able to scrutinise fully any spending involving public funds. Cllr Hobson said he was not satisfied with the response he and other members received.
Gazette - Mayor criticised over scrutiny of millions of taxpayer support provided for Teesside Airport

SWBKCB is online now  
Old 12th Feb 2021, 18:58
  #228 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
Would have thought the previous story on the relationship between TVCA, Goosepool 2019, TIAL and Stobart would be more your style given your previous interests, Beefer
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 12th Feb 2021, 19:33
  #229 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
Might be me, but I'm sure that the interest in Peel's financial affairs pre-dated any housing plans by a good few years.

I think if they has stayed you may have seen the place closed by now.
A quick fact check here - according to the Mayor, he saved it from closure - no "if's, but's or maybe's" - he saved it, and it's been repeated many times.

Now, I may have missed it but I don't remember any closure being announced. Peel said that they needed the housing to fund development of the southside and if they didn't get planning permission they might close it (shock, horror - black picture painted to try and secure planning permission). And hasn't the Mayor made similar "use it or lose it" comments and mentioned possible closure?
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 12th Feb 2021, 20:23
  #230 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: North Yorkshire
Age: 35
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't forget the Mayor stopped a sizeable airline deal that would have rendered his election pledge null and void (my underlining):

Clock ticking on flightsFurther proposals to bring new flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport could be lost, the leaders of all five Tees Valley authorities have warned.

Earlier this month, two major holiday companies have proposed new flights, beginning in summer 2019. In order to secure the flights, the airport’s operator requested support from the Tees Valley Combined Authority’s £500k airport development fund.

However, last week, Council Leaders blocked Mayor Houchen’s budget when it became clear that the money requested had been earmarked for solicitors and consultants instead of support for the new routes. Instead, Redcar and Cleveland Council leader Cllr Sue Jeffrey had no option but to propose an amendment to the budget to guarantee the cash needed, a move supported by the other leaders.

Despite the amendment to guarantee the support for new flights, the Tees Valley Mayor continues to oppose it.

Talks will recommence this Friday, with calls for the Tees Valley Mayor to get behind the new flight proposals and guarantee the development cash needed. Cllr Sue Jeffrey said:
“The stakes are very high here and time is running out. We have a solid proposition to invest and grow our airport but the Tees Valley Mayor is only interested in paying expensive consultants to try to make sense of his uncosted election pledge to buy the airport. It is simply reckless to put these new flights at risk. Mayor Houchen needs to stop playing politics and support our airport.”

Cllr Bill Dixon, who is the Combined Authority’s Cabinet Member for Transport, said:
“The public will be rightly angry that, after the Tees Valley Mayor made saving the airport such a large part of his election campaign, he is now effectively blocking efforts to bring in more flights.
Our airport is a valuable asset for our area – but airports are worthless without flights. It’s time for Mr Houchen to commit to making sure we secure these new flights.”

The proposal would see one of the largest increases in flights taking off from the airport since the financial crash hit in 2007 – providing a boost to the struggling airport which employs 60 people.

• The amendment proposed and agreed by the five council leaders is:
“That given the lack of any new plan for Durham Tees Valley Airport and the resulting risk to Local Authority investment in the airport that, in line with the Combined Authority/Durham Tees Valley Airport development proposal set out in March 2017, the CA agree that the £0.5m funding for legal and financial assessments set out in paragraph 28 support proposals made by Peel Holdings in their letter of 2nd February 2018 for route support, marketing and enhanced airport services. That this arrangement be progressed with utmost priority to support Peel Holdings in securing the viability of the airport post 2021.”

• New route development is increasingly competitive with airlines requiring significant start-up funding to ‘de-risk’ the services, often through a combination of subsidised or low airport charges and marketing support. Typically routes take up to three years to develop to break-even profitability, but an airline’s ability to sustain these losses is often less than twelve months. As a result, route support is required to deliver profitability as quickly as possible and increase the airlines ability to sustain losses during the ‘start- up’ phase.
Cautious Optimist is offline  
Old 12th Feb 2021, 22:28
  #231 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 4DME
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Wonder where they have found space for the new aviation consultant, these days it sounds the ideal company for a home base. The same company had some involvement in the process of buying the airport.
N707ZS is offline  
Old 13th Feb 2021, 06:31
  #232 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
Didn't know of any previous involvement. Looks to be a new office with 3 people in addition to their main office in Thirsk.


In the Mayor's comment on this story he says -"And I’m keeping up the progress, diggers are already working on a site the size of 270 football pitches building a new business park at our airport. "
Anybody seen anything?
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 13th Feb 2021, 06:52
  #233 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 4DME
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Before lockdown a portable office was built on the South side and a couple of diggers were seen and disappeared, since lockdown I don't know, nothing at all on the new road. If he's trying to get the Treasury he must be stuck for aviation investment.

If we were opening a Cirrus office that would be more interesting.

Last edited by N707ZS; 13th Feb 2021 at 10:36.
N707ZS is offline  
Old 13th Feb 2021, 18:48
  #234 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: England, UK
Age: 60
Posts: 524
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Isn't that Rob Cooke MD of Cyrrus the same Rob Cooke who was our Business Development Director (or similar) under Peel?
Robert-Ryan is offline  
Old 13th Feb 2021, 19:37
  #235 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,550
Received 87 Likes on 59 Posts
https://www.cyrrus.co.uk/cyrrus-supp...rspace-change/
Cyrrus is proud to support the modernisation of flight procedures at Durham Tees Valley Airport. The team will undertake the airspace change for the introduction of satellite-based aRea Navigation (RNAV) Instrument Approach Procedures (IAPs) at the Airport. The UK Future Airspace Strategy (FAS), championed by the CAA, advocates the introduction of such Performance-Based Navigation (PBN) procedures to complement and ultimately replace the conventional procedures which rely on older, ground-based, navigation installations. Due to the evolving nature of the UK’s navigation infrastructure, and the age of some of the associated equipment, the proposed RNAV IAPs at Durham Tees Valley Airport will provide a welcome redundancy. The introduction of these procedures comes at an exciting time for the Airport as it recently announced the introduction of a new airline, Loganair, which will be operating flights to Aberdeen and Norwich from October this year. There is also significant investment ongoing in enhancing the terminal facilities.

Speaking about the project, Rob Cooke, Operations Director at Durham Tees Valley Airport said; “Having worked with Cyrrus on a number of projects before, we know that they can and will deliver a most professional and cost-effective solution for the introduction of these procedures. We look forward to working with the Cyrrus Team to deliver a successful outcome to this project.”
Yes, it is the same guy. Went to Brighton City Airport (Shoreham!) between DTVA/DSA and Cyrrus
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 13th Feb 2021, 21:30
  #236 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 4DME
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
The airport opened specially for Boris today so that he could have a photo shoot at the local covid vaccine producing plant.
N707ZS is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2021, 09:36
  #237 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
He also visited a firm in central Newcastle who have developed a 30 minute test for covid-19 so NCL would presumably have been another option but Teesside was chosen.
tigertanaka is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2021, 14:51
  #238 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: London
Posts: 421
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe a show of support for the Mayor who may have greeted him on arrival.
Jamesair1 is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2021, 15:48
  #239 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Probably to drop off another swag bag of taxpayers money!
SKOJB is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2021, 16:48
  #240 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: on the border line
Posts: 667
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What ever anyone says....l would love to know who the PR guy is...the news is always so positive and forward thinking👍
highwideandugly is online now  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.