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Old 27th May 2021, 08:55
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Stats are on the website now.

The airports press release says
Loganair has partnerships with some of the world’s biggest airlines including British Airways, KLM, Air France, Emirates, Turkish Airlines, United Airlines and Qatar Airways amongst others, to provide seamless international travel from Teesside, the North East and North Yorkshire and this announcement will give global travellers even more options when flying from Teesside as coronavirus restrictions ease.
So what is happening with code shares?
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Old 27th May 2021, 09:03
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The codeshare is clearly problematic, Eastern couldn't pull it off and Loganair (who are a far stronger airline) are clearly struggling given it's not something that takes three months and counting
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So why are the airport talking about "seamless international travel"?
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Old 27th May 2021, 09:12
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This was also stated.
The agreements mean passengers can travel on one ticket for their entire international journey, via Heathrow, and have the benefits and reassurance of through check-in and through luggage to their final destination, along with protected connections in the event of delays.
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Isn't that a code share agreement?
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Old 27th May 2021, 10:00
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3rd rotation starts on 12 July apparently.

There is a big difference between interlining (as per the original press release) and codesharing. Interlining basically allows your bags to be routed through the connecting airport without unloading/rechecking and also protects your connection if the first flight is delayed (ie you get put on the next flight) but prices are normally crazy. A codeshare on MME-LHR would have the baggage & protected connections but would be sold on a BA flight number and you could book this flight on BA.com, get Executive Club Tier Points/Avios and connect to anywhere on the BA network for a similar price to what you would pay ex-NCL.

I wonder if the codeshare delay is down to BA rather than LM or the airport. Timetables are all over the place right now and taking on another codeshare route (a huge pricing exercise anyway) would cause BA more headaches when they move other flights around. Perhaps they are waiting for things to return to some sort of normality?
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Right, thanks
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Old 28th May 2021, 17:19
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Ryanair have put Alicante on sale for the winter season. Great times on the way out but it's an early flight on the way back to Teesside....

MME 0910-1305 ALC (Mon)
MME 0830-1225 ALC (Fri)
ALC 0650-0845 MME (Mon)
ALC 0610-0805 MME (Fri)

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Old 28th May 2021, 17:40
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April CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 1,887 - (no passengers in April 2020)
  • Aberdeen: 1,449
  • Heathrow: 167
  • Belfast City: 87
Plus charters:
  • Bournemouth: 66
  • Exeter: 28
  • Luton: 90
There were also 459 transfer passengers not included in the above figures (presumably Eastern passengers on the ABZ route to/from HUY).

I reckon ABZ is running at 15.4 pax per flight (20.3 if you include the HUY pax), this is up from 12.3 in March (19.9 inc HUY pax). 167 passengers to/from LHR is still a shocking 3.3 people per flight although there was only one rotation per day in March (also note that LHR reports 209 passengers on the MME route). 5.4 passengers per flight on Belfast.
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Can someone please offer information on who is financing these flights?
Is it Loganair or the mayor? This whole charade is haemorrhaging money for someone..please tell me..what exactly is the point?

Global warming anyone?🤔
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It's a loss leader, nothing ununsual, pain today for the promise of better days tomo. After 21 June, depending how fast LHR gets back on it's feet, the route may take off or simply die a quiet death, but they are trying to connect the region to the world, this is a challenge as the world is currently closed. If they don't try now, they may not get another go. It's a very North/South clash, one says "Better to try and fail than not to try at all."

The impact of this on the climate is completely immeasurable, I wouldn't sandbag the garden just yet.
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A historic day today at Teesside with the return of Ryanair to Mallorca. Sunclass with a football charter for the Euros and Easyjet training all on the same day.
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What were the numbers like on the Ryanair flight?
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When I checked on Ryanair,com yesterday it looked like 50 seats had been pre-booked on the MME-PMI leg. Of course some don't pay for a seat but there will also be no-shows.
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Mayor forecasting a Ryanair base in his seven year deal.

This is what the long-term plan is for Ryanair at Teesside Airport | The Northern Echo
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Had a couple of days away and SOME CLOWN at the airport has changed the carpark and not clearly advertised the fees.
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what`s the new system etc at the car park i went go in last night noticed no machine to issue tickets and the barrier went up
i reversed back out as there no instructions on how the system works other than directions to non existing short stay car park
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 15:33
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So have the fees changed from those on the website (as was rumoured to coincide with the departure tax going), or something else?
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It's tragic to see the way MME has declined over the years. When I worked there for British Midland we had four rotations a day to LHR (Mon-Fri) with very high load factors, (IIRC we did a couple on the week end as well) Jersey flights every week end in summer and IOM too. Ostend on a Saturday evening, direct flights to Amsterdam with Dan Air, Dan Air doing MME-MAN-BRS-CWL and return twice a week, the Air Anglia NWI-MME-ABZ and return daily (Mon-Fri) plus many charters on a daily basis (Canaries, Balearics and Italy) Mostly handled by BMA with the airport doing the odd one or two here and there. Probably missed some out but it was a lo o o o o ng time ago. It would be nice to see some life there again.
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When I used it last week, I pre-paid. On arrival, no ticket was issued (change from previous) and when leaving the barrier was supposed to read the number plate and open automatically. This did not work so I pressed the button and was let out without any questions! Clearly some teething problems as the chap using the other exit barrier was having similar issues getting out.
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