Teesside-2
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: 4DME
After week one I cannot comment on the passenger figures for Aberdeen but have noticed Loganair have been running late on 99% of the Teesside flights whilst Eastern have been early even with the aircraft coming in from Humberside.
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: Glasgow
It’s been a week where almost every single turnround has needed de-icing. From what I can see every delay except one has been pretty short indeed and I know one was definitely de-icing related. Can’t speak for others but as de-icing is the commander’s responsibility then it wouldn’t be for me to be critical.
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: England, UK
Eastern have taken the lions share of passengers on every service this week, which demonstrates just how far they've come in 12 months. That said I would still expect the balance to change in time.
I Have Control
Joined: May 2004
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From: North-West England
3 posts per day about your airfield since Nov 28, 2020. That's about as many commercial aircraft movements in the same time period, if not more.
I have got to hand it to you MME enthusiasts. That is true dedication.
I have got to hand it to you MME enthusiasts. That is true dedication.
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Durham
I think the reason why we post, is that we are so pleased that something is being done to improve the airport and services. Many airports in the country are suffering low movements, not just MME. I think under the circumstances, anything positive at any airport is good.
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: on the border line
Commercial Pressures...out of the box thinking..financial suicidal decisions..or plane ! ,daft....you choose.
Both Aberdeen flights left and at time of typing..at least one has returned, after wasting fuel,time and airspace!
The weather has been appalling in Aberdeen most of the day..questions should be asked..why oh why did they operate for the amount of passengers needing to travel?
Am I missing something?
Both Aberdeen flights left and at time of typing..at least one has returned, after wasting fuel,time and airspace!
The weather has been appalling in Aberdeen most of the day..questions should be asked..why oh why did they operate for the amount of passengers needing to travel?
Am I missing something?
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: Glasgow
Decision to dispatch made as normal by the commander based on the weather and information available at the time, which was appropriate. Aberdeen was SNOCLO and expected to open at 1500, but further snow showers led to the opening time going further and further back, hence the aircraft diverting back to MME and other flights also heading for ABZ diverting. It happens in winter and that's why we carry diversion fuel for alternates. Entirely reasonable given the circumstances and information available. .
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: on the border line
Appreciate that..but which other flights? No other flights due and non diverted.Helicopters held but landed.
My query really is..commercial and contract pressures creeping in? Out of interest I wonder how many passengers were actually involved?
My query really is..commercial and contract pressures creeping in? Out of interest I wonder how many passengers were actually involved?
Joined: Feb 2018
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From: UK
Days like these really highlight the madness of 2 operators on the same route on wafer thin margins fighting over the same small quantity of passengers.
By the time you add in extra fuel, de-icing, crew potentially out of position/ duty time then hotac or taxis it will be substantially loss making. A loss which airlines can ill afford at the best of times let alone during a global pandemic, it just beggars belief. This weather has been similar for days now in Aberdeen and the north east, so it’s not just today that these extra costs have been incurred.
By the time you add in extra fuel, de-icing, crew potentially out of position/ duty time then hotac or taxis it will be substantially loss making. A loss which airlines can ill afford at the best of times let alone during a global pandemic, it just beggars belief. This weather has been similar for days now in Aberdeen and the north east, so it’s not just today that these extra costs have been incurred.