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Old 18th Nov 2022, 17:57
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
A lot(most) airlines will hold or delay departures if a number of passengers(baggage) are delayed due to late connecting?

British Rail..doesn’t do that? 🤪
No real need when the next train will be 30 minutes later and nothing to pay if it's a late connection.
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Old 18th Nov 2022, 19:03
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Originally Posted by NorthEasterner
Healthy loads on LHR to what I’ve heard… consistently 30-50 pax.
If this is true Flybe will paying a lot in compensation given they’ve cancelled quite a few of the flights from NCL now just a week in.
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Old 18th Nov 2022, 19:49
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ash….true…if not on on strike..maybe you should start a non airport/airline positive thread ?…bit like Timmy at Doncaster😀!

Newcastle to Heathrow..at least double time required humping bags…good luck to that!
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Old 18th Nov 2022, 19:51
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Worth it for reliability.
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Old 18th Nov 2022, 20:05
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Silly price is for short notice. And if you want to get a train to London from Newcastle this Saturday there are more flights with seats than trains. No trains with seats between 06.00 and 11.58.
It works out at about two thirds of the train can be reserved, a third of the train left unreserved for walk ups. Over the last few years this might have changed towards four fifths. So still seats available but on a first come first served basis.
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Old 18th Nov 2022, 21:27
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Originally Posted by ash666
So we have the choice of a silly priced airline or an unreliable one to get to our capital city.
Can we at least try and keep things in proportion?
If you roll up the day before a flight to almost anywhere, you are going to be paying well above the fare most punters pay. I flew to Hamburg and back last May with BA. Four sectors for £153 return I think it was.
Having said that, point taken on flybe. They aren't covering themselves in glory.
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 04:28
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I have never understood that pricing structure. Do people actually buy those £400 tickets?
I would have thought selling off any remaining seats as cheaply as possible would be better. Better to get something than nothing.
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 06:57
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Originally Posted by ash666
I have never understood that pricing structure. Do people actually buy those £400 tickets?
I would have thought selling off any remaining seats as cheaply as possible would be better. Better to get something than nothing.
Airlines have various “booking classes” and as more seats sell and the lower fare classes sell out, prices increase. This is all part of their business model and it does work. If the flight is half full, they might release lower fares in lower booking classes to attract further bookings. But if the flight is almost full, with 6 seats for example, then why would they do this? If they had 6 seats left at £400 a pop they’d only have to sell 1 to make as much money as 4 seats at £100. And it’s highly likely, someone will need a seat at short notice especially on routes like BA where business travellers are frequently using the route.

The above model isn’t a one size fits all as low cost carriers and leisure carriers don’t always adopt the same approach. Use Jet2 for example in peak periods, such as the school holidays, and their prices will usually start pretty high and then 6 weeks before they’ll progressively lower the fares for any seats available. In leisure and low cost carriers markets, you’re far more likely to book in advance and the need for a last minute trip is less likely meaning the fares would probably go unsold so better to attract a small
minority into a late deal.

Sorry anyways, I didn’t intend for it to be or sound like a lecture! But the top and bottom of it is that different strategies both work and it’s dependent on the market and type of carriers.
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 07:02
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Thanks for that JonnyH, appreciated.
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 08:25
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Yeah - when the Boss says you have to be in X tomorrow then cost cutting goes out the window. I can remember a case where we flew a member of staff to Amsterdam with a paper hole punch one evening - some weird US/Canadian folders HAD to be submitted at 08:30 next morning and the risks of not finding the right punch at that time in Amsterdam was just too risky - they then spent half the night stuffing papers into folders but it was an 8 figure contract .............. just got them on the last flight
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 16:10
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
A lot(most) airlines will hold or delay departures if a number of passengers(baggage) are delayed due to late connecting?

British Rail..doesn’t do that? 🤪
British Rail haven't done much at all since 1996
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 16:12
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Originally Posted by Harold77
It works out at about two thirds of the train can be reserved, a third of the train left unreserved for walk ups. Over the last few years this might have changed towards four fifths. So still seats available but on a first come first served basis.
That's not even close to the truth, half of coach C is unreserved which equates to about 35-40 seats
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 07:58
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but a lot of seats marked as "reserved" aren't filled on some departures - probably people with flexible tickets changing the minds - so you an sit in them until someone asks you to move
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 08:00
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I was told, pre-covid, from someone working in the buffet coach that the coach next to it could not be booked.
No idea if that is still the case but it would be useful to know.

But we are getting away from NCL.
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 08:01
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but a lot of seats marked as "reserved" aren't filled on some departures - probably people with flexible tickets changing the minds - so you an sit in them until someone asks you to move
or you end up standing for 2 hours - either way, lovely way to travel.
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 09:26
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Originally Posted by ash666
I was told, pre-covid, from someone working in the buffet coach that the coach next to it could not be booked.
No idea if that is still the case but it would be useful to know.

But we are getting away from NCL.
That was true with the MkIV stock but not the Azumas, I work very closely with our reservations team ;-)
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Wallsendmag
That was true with the MkIV stock but not the Azumas, I work very closely with our reservations team ;-)
Thanks.

Please get them to give us useable wifi!
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 09:47
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Originally Posted by ash666
Thanks.

Please get them to give us useable wifi!
If only.
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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 08:55
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Another day another Flybe cancellation.
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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 09:00
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
Another day another Flybe cancellation.
Does the airport itself have any clout in this respect?
ie, "You are giving us a bad reputation, either run your flights or stop them completely".
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