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Old 26th Nov 2020, 11:45
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With German air traffic at 8% of what it was this week last year, i'm surprised that T5 hasn't closed already. It's clear that between now and Easter, barring Christmas week, this is as busy as its going to get.
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 11:54
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They seem to take quite long to practically move after deciding. Said to be about shops and renters needing to get compensation for the emptied place.
It feels like the german government assumes the situation might not normalize before Easter traffic maybe later again. I still hope for summer travel 21.
At least the MAX will be back. BER desperately needs FR.

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Old 31st Mar 2021, 09:33
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Starting on April 1st (no, not a joke) BER will switch each month between the north and south runway being in use until traffic increases enough that both have to be used. Since the north one was exclusively in use for the last few months they want to spread the joy around a bit
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Old 31st Mar 2021, 09:38
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Wasn't there some legal requirement related to the southern runway being in "permanent use" before Tegel can finally (legally) be given up forever? The month of may might be the decision time when they have to formally meet this requirement.
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Old 31st Mar 2021, 10:13
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Hmm, considering Tegel is now a (AstraZeneca) vaccination center and not an airport anymore might make that point moot. But you might be right, i honestly don't know.
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Old 31st Mar 2021, 10:18
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Tegel is still sort of kept legally mothballed although at reduced practical readiness compared to what had been initially planned. This is set to change this spring. Only then it will finally legally close.

That is except for the military helicopter base at Tegel North. This will stay and be operating for many years to come. But Luftwaffe will not use any Tegel runways anymore and operate only helicopters from the huge north apron.

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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 09:23
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They seem to take quite long to practically move after deciding. Said to be about shops and renters needing to get compensation for the emptied place.
It feels like the german government assumes the situation might not normalize before Easter traffic maybe later again. I still hope for summer travel 21.
At least the MAX will be back. BER desperately needs FR.
As far as the government is concerned, I suspect they know more than the are willing to tell us. They deliver the bad news slice-wise. By pure luck I have been given my first Covid 19 vaccination a few days ago, second to follow on 23 June. Which means, I am in a waiting position for another three months. Rather than cancelling a flight to Athens lately, I rebooked it to the end of September. Only God knows if that works. Plan a trip with my family later this year, it is all put on hold because of all the uncertainty. I doubt, very much, if air travel will run as normal again in the foreseeable future. Summer 21 would be a dream, not only for the customers, but also for the pilots and cabin staff who eagerly wait to go back to work. In my opinion safe air travel - and planning - will be back, once the majority of people have been vaccinated,
and, as proof, present their good old yellow WHO vaccination pass on arrival. Its like going back more than 50 years, when the yellow booklet was mandatory for world wide travel, and when during transit at Bombay the health officer walked through cabin, a can with disinfection spray in each hand. There are relatively simple solutions, but everything needs to be related at a " app ", and gets more complicated.

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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 10:07
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Well, the good old yellow pass was apparently only widely used in very few countries, Germany being one of them.

Therefore, there will be a digital Covid vaccination passport from the EU, there is already one from IATA and so on. But yes, a swift vaccination effort can yield substantial revival of air traffic, as already visible in the USA and domestically in China (back to 100% pre-crisis level since October). There is a lot of pent up demand for vacations outside of your own home, and actually a lot of pent up spending as well, as people could not spend their money during the pandemic.
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 10:16
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Denti, I don't know about other countries but in The Netherlands a great many of the Dutch spent that pent up money on home renovations. Businesses involved in that type of work have reported unprecedented demand over the past year.
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 11:30
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Any chance not to turn this thread into a vaccine passport one !?
Speaking of BER it would seem that T5 is completely shut down. Any further refurbishment ongoing ? Will it be mothballed until better times? What are the landing fees for a LLC at the moment?!
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