Quarantine if you arrive from Spain from midnight 25/7/2020
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Very good example. Why quarantine people coming from the areas which are exempt from the FCO advice against non-essential travel? There is probably a sound reason behind said exemption, namely that the situation there is a long way better than in Catalonia, Aragon or the other affected mainland areas. Tour operators and airlines should demand clarification on this matter.
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Worth looking again at the map on post 8 which is Spanish and not sourced from the U.K.. Infections are increasing fast and are no longer stabilised. There is a lag from infection to showing symptoms and getting tested.
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According to news they have about 280 clusters reported alone at the moment; although do think the Balearics and Canaries should be exempt at the moment at least.
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Absolute bullcrap.
There are some areas in Spain where there are high increases, mainly due to some very high cluster cases, but almost ALL of them in Aragon and Catalonia.
The Generalidad Valencia for example has sen only a slight increase in caseload, and measures have been taken immediately.
his is again another imbecile UK reaction. They should better look at their own people not adhering to the laws in Spain and in the UK itself.
There are some areas in Spain where there are high increases, mainly due to some very high cluster cases, but almost ALL of them in Aragon and Catalonia.
The Generalidad Valencia for example has sen only a slight increase in caseload, and measures have been taken immediately.
his is again another imbecile UK reaction. They should better look at their own people not adhering to the laws in Spain and in the UK itself.
his is again another imbecile UK reaction. They should better look at their own people not adhering to the laws in Spain and in the UK itself.
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No doubt the same suspects here would be the first to criticise the government if their reaction was slow. Maybe the government has been watching a few YouTube clips and have been proactive.
With a partial restriction no doubt the BBC would be sending a news team to the hidden line saying this side is deemed safe by the U.K. government and this side requires quarantine, while everyone switches airports.
With a partial restriction no doubt the BBC would be sending a news team to the hidden line saying this side is deemed safe by the U.K. government and this side requires quarantine, while everyone switches airports.
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The government is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Over face masks they got a kicking for delaying their introduction; now they're getting a kicking for acting swiftly. The media, and the people, can't have it both ways.
The government is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Over face masks they got a kicking for delaying their introduction; now they're getting a kicking for acting swiftly. The media, and the people, can't have it both ways.
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lear999wa.......agreed. Our response can’t be the same as it has been otherwise we will destroy the very fabric of society and our economy. We should fear poverty and social breakdown more. A far more sensible balanced approach is needed.
Does anyone else feel like the uk government has no leader, just lots of politicians shouting out off the cuff policies without even talking to each other first?
Does anyone else feel like the uk government has no leader, just lots of politicians shouting out off the cuff policies without even talking to each other first?
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You're totally right. It's very superficial to think that "it's only tourism, hospitality and airlines taking the hit". When 20% of all people in a country don't have jobs any longer, two things happen. First, the state has to spend loads of money providing some form of unemployment benefits to them - and the state money is not unlimited, especially in times of reduced budget income from taxes. Second, those people severely cut back on their discretional spending. It's not just that they don't go on holidays. They also refrain from buying clothes, gadgets, going to the cinema or eating out - not to mention that unemployed people don't normally buy cars or buy and furnish homes. This results in a massive decline for many industries, eventually leading to further bankruptcies and job losses. And the spiral keeps going down. Does a country in such a dire predicament have the resources to also ramp up its health care system? I think not. So, the economic crisis has the potential of also deepening the health care one. Hence, blanket bans shall not be a thing if we are to come out of this as a functional society with minimal losses.
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I think what I find most disappointing is the governments blanket approach to Spain. Most of the Canaries and Balearics have very low incidents of Covid-19. So why lump them in with the rest of Spain? I understand that you can travel to Palma from Barcelona and then travel to the UK, but that the same for Barcelona via anywhere in Europe. You’re relying on people being sensible and following the rules, because they are pretty much unenforceable. And if thats the case, you can be very nuanced in how you approach travel bans.
I think one of the contributing factors is that the whole of Spain will go on holiday this week. Having lived there for 4 years the right to spend August on the beach is almost a Spanish human right. Madrid will empty this week as they head in all directions of the compass to the beach. It would not surprise me if Spain sees a massive surge next week.
Utter insanity. Devastating airline and ancillary industries. No thought, logic or common sense. At least why can’t the Balearics and Canaries be exempt? We can’t continue to lockdown indefinitely because it is unaffordable. Take suitable precautions, don’t balloon to 20 stone, wash your hands and get on with life using sensible risk management. Hopeless uk governance.
Utter insanity. Devastating airline and ancillary industries. No thought, logic or common sense. At least why can’t the Balearics and Canaries be exempt? We can’t continue to lockdown indefinitely because it is unaffordable. Take suitable precautions, don’t balloon to 20 stone, wash your hands and get on with life using sensible risk management. Hopeless uk governance.
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Why should the UK government join other countries in actively financially supporting its air transport sector? Just look at the economics of this. The air transport industry, including airlines and its supply chain, are estimated to support US $86 billion of GDP in the United Kingdom. Spending by foreign tourists supports a further US $34 billion of the country’s GDP, amounting to 4.5% of the annual GDP of the UK. Enough said.
Utter insanity. Devastating airline and ancillary industries. No thought, logic or common sense. At least why can’t the Balearics and Canaries be exempt? We can’t continue to lockdown indefinitely because it is unaffordable. Take suitable precautions, don’t balloon to 20 stone, wash your hands and get on with life using sensible risk management. Hopeless uk governance.
Idiot Govt thinking............... Canary Islands is Spain so lock it down, infections rising in Catalonia so must be close as it is also Spain. It is the equivalent for locking down Shetland Islands because there has been a huge spike in cases in Newquay