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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 12:02
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Yes I agree it will have to change but currently they deem enough risk to not change it yet, and remember a small part of Germany has re-entered lockdown, just hope nobody from that area has gone on holiday ? It is very quick to spread.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 12:11
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GŁtersloh, the area in Germany where a lockdown is being imposed, is not a place that most tourists visit. One of its main tourist attractions is the Miele museum of washing machines
https://www.miele.de/haushalt/miele-museum-5118.htm
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 12:35
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Used to have quite a few RAF and BAOR types back in the day !!
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 13:46
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I agree the app was over-hyped in the first place. The issue really is whether we have the boots on the ground to cope with tracking, tracing and isolating the downstream from 1000 confirmed new cases per day. And then what compliance rate we can achieve.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 14:02
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So far many of the 25k tracers have either been let go or are sat watching netflix.
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I'm happy for them to sit watching Netflix if that's because the levels of infection are reducing and the system is coping easily with contacting those it needs to.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 14:39
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Not sure it has much to do with risk rather not wanting to look complete fools by lifting 3 weeks after imposing. They may look less foolish if they lift after we are now opening pubs and reducing to 1m. It was a ridiculous decision in the first place of course
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:07
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Originally Posted by valefan16
are sat watching netflix.
Sounds like my job...
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:16
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I'm happy for them to sit watching Netflix if that's because the levels of infection are reducing and the system is coping easily with contacting those it needs to.
Very much so!
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 17:43
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Taken from a well known newspaper.
THE European Commission has warned the UK could face a legal battle over the plans for air bridges unless it opens them to all EU countries with similar coronavirus rates.
Nearly all EU countries have lower infection rates than the UK but the government criteria are understood to include economic benefits based on the tourist market in each country. So far approximately 10 countries which include France, Spain, Italy and Greece have been targeted for "air bridges", with many other low-risk destinations on the continent excluded.

Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary, previously admitted: "If you open up the airports and don't open up the Eurotunnel or if you open up to one country but not in relation to others, there is always a risk of a legal challenge."

Prof Steve Peers, an expert on EU law at the University of Essex, warned this could be seen as discriminatory.
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 15:15
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Anybody else noticed all sandrag’s posts seem to be trying to send traffic to other sites?
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 15:43
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Anybody else noticed all sandragís posts seem to be trying to send traffic to other sites?
Reported as clickbait/advertising.
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 19:15
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Thanks folks. My colleague has done what is needed. Your help in watching out for this kind of thing is appreciated.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 12:52
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https://travelweekly.co.uk/articles/...igua-confirmed

Maybe signs that a step away from the "essential travel only" advice is on the horizon?
Will be interesting to see if BA relaunch from LGW or move it around the M25 to LHR.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 13:26
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Originally Posted by Playamar2
Taken from a well known newspaper.
THE European Commission has warned the UK could face a legal battle over the plans for air bridges unless it opens them to all EU countries with similar coronavirus rates.
Just the latest example or how the EU still wants to run the UK. I donít remember the EU laying down the law when other EU nations were selective who could travel.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 13:54
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And they are quire right too!
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 13:57
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Just the latest example or how the EU still wants to run the UK. I donít remember the EU laying down the law when other EU nations were selective who could travel.
To be fair i think they've said if a low enough rate of infection, sounds like Boris may be looking at it anyway, now suggestions the initial list is going to be 50 countries with more as the month progresses although a proportion are "island nations you probably wont likely visit!"

To fair an EU wide agreement makes sense but imagine the sticking point on that is maybe Sweden's situation?
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 14:43
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Just the latest example or how the EU still wants to run the UK. I donít remember the EU laying down the law when other EU nations were selective who could travel.
We don't know that the EU are laying down the law. Any EU laws that we are required to follow are the ones that Boris Johnson signed up to (all of them) in January to "Get Brexit Done". He could have walked away but chose not to because he knows that we need a relationship with the EU and he was already PM by then. I expect he will do the same by 31st December.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 15:44
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Three months ago countries closed their borders to prevent the spread. Health is a national, not an EU matter so that was allowed.
As we release, the EU has a role in ensuring fairness - no favours to friendly countries.
We seem to be moving towards some consistency, the problems being Sweden, Portugal and any other country where the virus breaks out in substantial numbers. Releasing most countries will make it easier to enforce quarantine on arrivals from the rest.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 16:05
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We weren't told which "well known newspaper" but with a headline like that it's going to be The Express or The Mail; possibly The Sun.

Norway and Denmark have excluded Sweden from their travel bubble, for good reasons, and I understand that currently Spain isn't allowing quarantine free movement from Portugal. If for example the UK decided quarantine were lifted for Belgium, but for The Netherlands; or France but not Germany that could be seen as discriminatory and the EU would be quite correct in looking for some fairness. However despite the "well know newspaper's" protestations from what has been said on a "well know broadcaster's" news channel that isn't likely to be on the cards.

Stinks of EU bashing for EU bashing's sake - so nothing new there then.
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