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Old 26th Apr 2020, 11:49
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Maybe some of the affluent 2nd/3rd home owners ought to be legally forced to provide extra funding for the local facilities as part of their purchase, just a thought?
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 14:57
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
" so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. "

I think a few people might remember the non-friendly attitude of some Cornish people to outsiders during this shut-down................
Can only assume you refer to the request to stay away and not visit second homes, or, fourth homes in Cornwall if you are a famous chef and doing it anyway. It is not a matter of being unfriendly it is a matter of the minority as ever being stupid in their behaviour. Last night Devon and Cornwall police arrested two people who had travelled from Kent for a "short break" and slept in their car in Falmouth, Crazy behaviour, driver had no insurance and no licence, car was seized. Point is everyone is welcome but right now we could not possibly offer the facility to look after additional visitors, the one main hospital here is already stretched to its limits. Once this is all over please come back in your droves, most of the population here rely on tourism and right now everyone is suffering badly as business is dead.

With regard to visitors in "normal" times whatever they will be, I am not so sure their will be a greater percentage fly here for a break, the vast majority will still drive, so air traffic may not be not be that different, but who knows what will happen! Although personally a link to Heathrow is better for me I have also felt Gatwick is far more beneficial because of the extra driving time. What would be good though is greater frequency with smaller units, how about an airline, you could call it air southwest or something like that.

Predictions at this stage are impossible with any accuracy!
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 16:32
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I don't think home working will continue, it's never as good as having a team together in an office.
Whilst I will concede that it is does depend what type of business you're referring to, in general that is an outdated view, and the current situation and how we adjust to the "new normal" afterwards will prove it as such.

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Old 26th Apr 2020, 17:44
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Originally Posted by esscee View Post
Maybe some of the affluent 2nd/3rd home owners ought to be legally forced to provide extra funding for the local facilities as part of their purchase, just a thought?
What's the rules on council tax? Do they pay a reduced rate or nothing at all? I know when I've rented part-week as part of working around the country I've ended up paying 2 x council tax.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 19:46
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AFAIK Second home owners pay full Council Tax, just like local residents.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 20:08
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So the "locals" are quite happy for the 2nd home owners to subsidise their local services but only when it suits them? The people buying second "holiday" homes, a lot of them will have bought with a view to retiring there in due course.
A bit of neck winding-in sounds in order.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 20:19
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And it's all these elderly retirees who are the drain on the Council as they become frail and need social care. (And I'm 75)
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 07:31
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Back on track with a Newquay thread -
The Southwest is in a more positive position for any new-normal connectivity to start flights again, and including the PSO, also possibly
seek to receive more Govt Aid in due course.

BA is the only airline at the moment to be able to restart the London route when it is able to do so.
If SD measures are needed on an aircraft then a A319 is big enough to still carry a decent pax load (and freight maybe>?)

LHR is not the only route that NQY needs, but MAN and EDI are all prime connections, plus likely Glasgow & Belfast too.

The GWR Night Sleeper train service (which is part Govt funded) has been suspended but it will start up again once a new-normal is defined.
In fact SD has a solution on that mode of travel as the twin berth sleeper cabins can all be made single/solo berth.

Rail Travel from the far Southwest had a reasonable service with brand new GWR trains, but a journey from anywhere west of Plymouth, and you were looking at a 4 to 5 hour scenic train journey to Paddington - Half a day...

National Express coaches are all suspended at the moment, UFN.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 20:46
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
" so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. "

I think a few people might remember the non-friendly attitude of some Cornish people to outsiders during this shut-down................
hmm fortunately most people donít, I believe, view it in the way you do. Those people are following the rules so not getting themselves caught up with being asked to p**s off from the Southwest when they are not meant to be out travelling anyway. People will likely be going for the most affordable means of a holiday or break away from home where they have been cooped up for weeks. Depending where in the U.K. you live flying could still be affordable.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 08:04
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Some of the language has been inflammatory and people have been abused in the streets etc - Cornwall needs every friend it can get - now the UK is out of the EU all that EU money that's been spent down there will disappear pretty fast..........
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 09:38
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
Some of the language has been inflammatory and people have been abused in the streets etc - Cornwall needs every friend it can get - now the UK is out of the EU all that EU money that's been spent down there will disappear pretty fast..........
All UK County's that have a large leisure industry have all put up ''do not come here'' signs, and local and HM Govt's fully endorse this -

Cornwall is not the exception, it and others will be fine once we can all reopen to a new normal - - and it is taken as noted by most sensible folk here in the UK that we will have have to wait until our favourite holiday places can reopen for business. I am in Dorset, so whilst we do not want any day trippers or 2nd homers coming here for now we do know folk will return.

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Old 28th Apr 2020, 14:34
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
Some of the language has been inflammatory and people have been abused in the streets etc - Cornwall needs every friend it can get - now the UK is out of the EU all that EU money that's been spent down there will disappear pretty fast..........
Completely agree. I live in Cornwall, and whilst a bit of second home bashing banter is always good sport for the locals, recently it has gone way too far. Cornwall absolutely needs every possible friend it can get, and the way some absolutely ignorant people have been behaving and spouting off lately leaves me worried for the state of humanity. Two examples, one extreme and one not so.
1) two seperate people who are Cornish locals, who have jobs etc but cannot afford house / flat etc, live in Motorhomes, and have done so for last two years or so. They have recently received death threats and threats of arson against their vehicles. Thankfully story made local press and Police have taken in their defence which seems to have stopped the actions of the ignorant.
2) Gordon Ramsey. Granted your either love him or hate him, but he was berated by locals and the press for a 25 mile bike ride the other day. Oh wow. I did the same to, as it seems are loads of others I know going by what they post on Strava etc, and all who are Cornish locals, any locals bashing them? Nope.
I'm afraid it examples like the above that make me ashamed to be Cornish at times, there are a lot of people down here who need to get a grip of reality and have words with themselves if they want Cornwall to do well on the otherwise of Covid-19.
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Old 30th Apr 2020, 18:01
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Iím hearing that EI have dropped their Newquay to Dublin service. Another blow for the airport sadly.
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Old 30th Apr 2020, 20:23
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Dropped as in never to return rather than the current suspension ?


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Old 30th Apr 2020, 20:42
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My understanding was that itís Cork-Newquay thatís been permanently dropped. Aer Lingus have also dropped the Cityjet deal and will end LCY.
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Old 30th Apr 2020, 21:17
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Yeh I would be surprised to see dub end. My understanding is that it carries lots of connections, obviously not currently but when things pick up again it’ll be the only one stop connection to the US jntkl
a pso to London happens.


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Old 30th Apr 2020, 21:43
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Ah yes Iíve just seen itís ORK-NQY which is ending. Apologies.

Also, Eurowings have dropped Stuttgart to Newquay.
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Old 30th Apr 2020, 22:36
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I’m not actually concerned.

These are one or few times a week peak season seasonal routes. They will return when demand returns but April/May-aug/sept isn’t going to be any point running this year

next year will be different I hope


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Old 1st May 2020, 10:26
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I admire your optimism cornishman.
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Old 12th May 2020, 08:49
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FR24 showing the "NHS" ex-Virgin A346 9H-EAL arriving a few minutes ago, followed by an Alitalia A321 I-BIXR.

The 321 is aged 23 apparently so perhaps arriving to meet the cutters torch?
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