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Old 27th Jun 2020, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
It not completely bonkers Manchester used to have quite a bit of transit traffic between the bailiwicks and mśn (vannin)
Maybe back in the pre-COVID world and some time before it. None of the financial guys will permit business travel in the next 6-12 months.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 12:49
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
Maybe back in the pre-COVID world and some time before it. None of the financial guys will permit business travel in the next 6-12 months.
The death of business travel is far too over stated. Iíve still been commuting weekly within Europe and flights are busy. Business class has been completely full on my four flights a week and even in Economy most of the passengers seem to be more businessmen than anything else (assuming as they are smartly dressed and working on laptops). Also quite a few of us were exempt from the quarantine regulations so they must be on some kind of business travel.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 12:52
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Originally Posted by BA318 View Post
The death of business travel is far too over stated. Iíve still been commuting weekly within Europe and flights are busy. Business class has been completely full on my four flights a week and even in Economy most of the passengers seem to be more businessmen than anything else (assuming as they are smartly dressed and working on laptops). Also quite a few of us were exempt from the quarantine regulations so they must be on some kind of business travel.
Maybe for the UK. But Island-wide in the IOM, there seems to be widespread clamping down on business travel. Slightly different in that any neccessary travel has to happen by air - being an Island and all - but all of the banks have shred business travel for the next 12 months here.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 15:23
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Great to see the effort the IOM and GCI Governments have put in to get the 'air bridge' established, given that both islands have has no further COVID-19 cases for sometime now, with local elimination all but confirmed. For people wanting a few days off each island, after climbing the walls for the last few months, this is a great idea to get some money in some tills at either end of the bridge. Local sports teams are up for some fixtures etc. All of this with no 14 day isolation on return, which is the big plus. With locals soon to be given the opportunity to travel in 'level 4' of the governments plan, albeit with a 14 day isolation on return, hopefully the uptake to GCI will be good. Local travel agents are selling packages. Good luck to all, let's give it a chance. Nothing to do with banks etc, it's about giving each island the chance to enjoy what ever is going to be left of the summer, with limited risk to residents.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 17:41
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Originally Posted by EMX81L View Post
Great to see the effort the IOM and GCI Governments have put in to get the 'air bridge' established, given that both islands have has no further COVID-19 cases for sometime now, with local elimination all but confirmed. For people wanting a few days off each island, after climbing the walls for the last few months, this is a great idea to get some money in some tills at either end of the bridge. Local sports teams are up for some fixtures etc. All of this with no 14 day isolation on return, which is the big plus. With locals soon to be given the opportunity to travel in 'level 4' of the governments plan, albeit with a 14 day isolation on return, hopefully the uptake to GCI will be good. Local travel agents are selling packages. Good luck to all, let's give it a chance. Nothing to do with banks etc, it's about giving each island the chance to enjoy what ever is going to be left of the summer, with limited risk to residents.
You are spot-on with the thinking and rationale behind this effort, where as earlier posters have, with respect, rather missed the point. There may be a few business travelers, but the main target is short break leisure, for a six week period. We are talking around 1400 seats being offered, in each direction, over that planned six week window, with a target market of approx. 85,000 at each end. As I write this, travel bookings in the UK have gone through the roof today. People in the IOM and Guernsey will be looking for a break too, but, as things stand passing through the UK will bring challenges. Hotels at both ends are offering very good deals into their 'staycation' markets, as they are desperate for heads on beds. If the fares are right, this should do OK.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 11:09
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Try booking, go to Visitiom.com or the equlivent visit Guernsey or a travel agent or even airline web site, nothing!
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 12:23
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
Try booking, go to Visitiom.com or the equlivent visit Guernsey or a travel agent or even airline web site, nothing!
Won't be on sale till at least Tues/Weds as I understand.

Edit: Looks like 'registration' from tomorrow https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-...from-tomorrow/
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:20
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Have the IOM Government and airlines come to an agreement about permanent solutions to flights from the IOM. With us quickly approaching winter, and by then the borders should be open. The island could be left with just easyJet operating a skeleton schedule and Loganair pretty much the same with the Aer Lingus Dublin.

I believe they were talking to Loganair about reinstating a full service to MAN/LPL/BHX?
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:32
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Have the IOM Government and airlines come to an agreement about permanent solutions to flights from the IOM. With us quickly approaching winter, and by then the borders should be open. The island could be left with just easyJet operating a skeleton schedule and Loganair pretty much the same with the Aer Lingus Dublin.

I believe they were talking to Loganair about reinstating a full service to MAN/LPL/BHX?
The IOM Gov are still in the process of making a decision. It's not just Loganair that are pitching for the routes, I believe Stobart are in the running with a potential third airline. Stobart are best placed to do it on the basis they have local staff living there ready and waiting.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:36
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Stobart are best placed to do it on the basis they have local staff living there ready and waiting.
But no booking system etc of their own
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 12:40
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Logan, in my option are the ones best suited, their already a well established airline.

They've been doing FAM flights with BXA (ATR) on both the IOM-MAN/LPL.

They offer connections with KLM, Qatar, Emirates, BA, Turkish and others. (https://www.loganair.co.uk/contact-u...line-partners/)

They also boast a very good public opinion, particularly in the U.K.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 13:16
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Tuesday 21st July seems to be first EZY Gatwick, will it happen then?
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 13:31
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
Tuesday 21st July seems to be first EZY Gatwick, will it happen then?
It has been cancelled
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 13:40
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It has been cancelled
Not according to their booking engine. IOM moves from L5 to L4 restictions which allow greater travel fredom for IOM citizens (only) to travel.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 14:05
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Not according to their booking engine. IOM moves from L5 to L4 restictions which allow greater travel fredom for IOM citizens (only) to travel.
Its cancelled
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 14:07
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Loganair also has crews based and resident in IOM. A fine bunch they are too.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 14:16
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It's also been publicised now that Stobart Group aren't prepared to bankroll any Stobart Air expansion in to IOM after bailing it out, so they're going to have to pull a pot of gold out of somewhere.

The biggest matter is the patient transfer contract. This is up for tender imminently and the reality is, whoever takes that on will ultimately end up on the routes.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 15:29
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Have not heard anymore news about the BACF service into London City. The last news was it was suspended from 13th September surely there needs to be at least a twice daily flight into either London City or Heathrow. It was deemed so important that this route was flying every day except Saturday all throughout March, April, May and June so something needs to be done to secure it back again.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 15:59
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
Have not heard anymore news about the BACF service into London City. The last news was it was suspended from 13th September surely there needs to be at least a twice daily flight into either London City or Heathrow. It was deemed so important that this route was flying every day except Saturday all throughout March, April, May and June so something needs to be done to secure it back again.
I have around half a dozen flights booked for LCY flights for October, November, and December. Not had any notifications that any are cancelled although have had for various connecting flights.

I wonder if September is when the Loganair contract was due for renewal and BA do not want to commit to anything until the travel situation becomes clear. Time will tell I guess.

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Old 10th Jul 2020, 17:46
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BA are speaking to alternative operators for the route and ideally looking for it to originate in London rather than the IOM from what I'm aware.
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