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Old 13th Aug 2019, 07:51
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Document unavailable at this time......it says
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 08:08
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I have the document saved locally, unfortunately its too big to attach here, so Ive taken a screenshot of the relavent paragraph. It's application number 10/1116A - document Schedule A. I cant find it online though.



EDIT: I suppose I could just share it through dropbox.. here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/122uu0twwz...Plans.pdf?dl=0
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 08:57
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Have a look at 17 Aug 2017Decision notice ........subsection 15

https://publicaccess.carlisle.gov.uk...LI_DCAPR_70884

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Old 13th Aug 2019, 09:19
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Also take a look at at the permitted movements in 14. They're not that far short of half way there with just the Loganair flights.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 10:08
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Thanks fjencl, that seems to be the latest state of play. It would therefore appear to rule out A319/320 type operations then. I do wonder if a diversion of such a type would be permitted or not under the conditions.

I think if I was Stobart, I would now go back to the Council and clarify that such updated and more environmental types such as E190/195 and A220 are included, if necessary quoting the mission creep over the years at LCY.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 11:02
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I think if I was Stobart, I would now go back to the Council and clarify that such updated and more environmental types such as E190/195 and A220 are included, if necessary quoting the mission creep over the years at LCY.
Unless there is a real liklihood of such operations, they need to let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the current operation. The level of opposition to such a change could be hugely distracting.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 12:38
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I thought the larger aircraft was more about bringing punters into the Lakes
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 19:17
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Reductions in frequency w.e.f. 16th September
Carlisle - Belfast from 5 to 4 weekly....Mon/Thurs/Fri/Sun
Carlisle - Dublin from 5 to 4 weekly.....Mon/Thurs/Fri/Sun
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 08:11
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Lack of trade or lack of ATC?
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 16:51
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was always the plan to reduce for predicted seasonal variation I would imagine.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 19:20
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was always the plan to reduce for predicted seasonal variation I would imagine.
So can anybody confirm if this was a planned change or where these flights previously on sale - don't remember any mention of it?
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 19:46
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The Saturday flights were never on sale beyond mid September - it is a planned cut.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 08:35
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Not sure how, or even if, this will affect Carlisle

Eddie Stobart chief to leave as shares suspended

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49445495
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 09:30
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I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 09:49
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?
you appear to be correct. https://www.londonstockexchange.com/.../14200363.html
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 15:00
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?
They're not, though Eddie Stobart operate the big warehouse on site. I'm not even sure if Stobart Group have still have an interest in that or whether it's been leased out/sold.

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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:00
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As at March 2019 the Stobart Group owned 11.8% of Eddie Stobart, the company whose shares have been suspended so it has a very much minority interest.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 05:28
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Only route available on the CAA site for July is BHD, showing average pax of just under 20 per flight, or 58%
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 11:13
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Still being a brand new Airport, with poor links, axlack of signage .
And very early days .
It still could be a success, they sure made a good effort with Southend .
It just needs time
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 13:50
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Only route available on the CAA site for July is BHD, showing average pax of just under 20 per flight, or 58%
No idea on load factors vs yield but for a new service that sounds not too bad.
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