Dundee-2

[fjencl]

Has the announcement been made yet, as to which airline has been selected to operate the PSO flights from Dundee to London.........?????

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by fjencl

Has the announcement been made yet, as to which airline has been selected to operate the PSO flights from Dundee to London.........?????

Isn't it a foregone conclusion that Loganair will continue to operate the PSO flights between Dundee and London 🤔

If not, then I can't see any other airline operating it.

[fjencl]

£6.2 Million of Tax payers Cash

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£6.2m of taxpayers' cash to subsidise Dundee to London flights (thecourier.co.uk)

[jmdavies86]

Originally Posted by Sotonsean

If not, then I can't see any other airline operating it.

The only other airline might be Eastern Airways; they currently operate the PSO service on the WIC-ABZ route.

[fjencl]

Referral of the proposed subsidy to Loganair Limited by Dundee City Council - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

[SWBKCB]

As they voted for Dundee City Council, they must be happy.

[Pain in the R's]

So what is the subsidy per passenger carried then?

[davidjohnson6]

From May 2023 to July 2023 to/from Heathrow there have been an average of 2590 pax per month - that's arriving plus departing pax. Assuming numbers continue at this level, and rounding to the nearest pound, that gives a subsidy of £100 per passenger flying one way or £200 for a round trip.
An off-peak train fare from Dundee to London costs £ 96.40. There are typically 2 trains per hour from Dundee to each of Aberdeen and Edinburgh

[Asturias56]

Not sustainable - well outside of Scotland -I'd have thought

[NorthSouth]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

From May 2023 to July 2023 to/from Heathrow there have been an average of 2590 pax per month - that's arriving plus departing pax. Assuming numbers continue at this level, and rounding to the nearest pound, that gives a subsidy of £100 per passenger flying one way or £200 for a round trip.
An off-peak train fare from Dundee to London costs £ 96.40. There are typically 2 trains per hour from Dundee to each of Aberdeen and Edinburgh

Surely it’s £200 per passenger i.e. per single journey? £6.2m divided by c.31,000 pax a year. I wonder if the privileged 25 or so people on each flight have any idea how much they’re sucking the taxpayer?
NS

[NorthSouth]

Ah just spotted that the £6.2m is over 2 years, hence £100 per pax. Cheap!

[willy wombat]

Originally Posted by NorthSouth

Surely it’s £200 per passenger i.e. per single journey? £6.2m divided by c.31,000 pax a year. I wonder if the privileged 25 or so people on each flight have any idea how much they’re sucking the taxpayer?
NS

I guess the question is whether the Dundee area gets more than £6.2 million value (inward investment or whatever) by having a direct air link to London. I haven't got a clue as to whether that is the case.

[SealinkBF]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

From May 2023 to July 2023 to/from Heathrow there have been an average of 2590 pax per month - that's arriving plus departing pax. Assuming numbers continue at this level, and rounding to the nearest pound, that gives a subsidy of £100 per passenger flying one way or £200 for a round trip.
An off-peak train fare from Dundee to London costs £ 96.40. There are typically 2 trains per hour from Dundee to each of Aberdeen and Edinburgh

I use LNER from KGX to INV and the seats in standard are so uncomfortable. So I always compare airfares to LNER First Class which are marginally better (with decent food usually) for an 8 hr journey.

[fjencl]

Just wondering if the 2 stored Loganair Dornier 328's are still at DND or have they now gone to new owners.

[goldeneye]

Originally Posted by fjencl

Just wondering if the 2 stored Loganair Dornier 328's are still at DND or have they now gone to new owners.

they are still at DND, but as per my post on the LM thread, Jethros is stating deregistered from UK register and onwards to German register. Not sure if they will fly out or will be broken up.

[Saabdriver1]

They're going to fly out.

[jmdavies86]

Wonder if they're heading to Deutsche Aircraft at Oberpfaffenhofen...?!

[Link Kilo]

Future of Dundee to Heathrow airport flights secured as Loganair awarded multi-million pound contract

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...rded-contract/