TUI Airways

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by manchesterflyer2

A number of 320s/321s were due to be leased in S21 in order to facilitate the summer 21 expansion and to help "bridge the gap" whilst waiting for the MAX re-entry into service, hence the A320 flight.

Think they’re referring to S20

[manchesterflyer2]

Originally Posted by ROC10

Think they’re referring to S20

Oops, just realised my typo.

[davidjohnson6]

Everything departing before 1 July now cancelled
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9536301.html
Some other holidays have been cancelled for later dates as well

Hope everyone is happy and enjoys themselves in Devon :-)

[helipixman]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Everything departing before 1 July now cancelled
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9536301.html
Some other holidays have been cancelled for later dates as well

Hope everyone is happy and enjoys themselves in Devon :-)

I am so happy and relieved my holiday which was before 1st July has been cancelled by TUI, just have to wait for the voucher and re-book for next year ? Plenty of places to go in the UK this year if needed ..

[oldart]

Unless I missed it, but Marella Cruises seem to be very quiet on announcements at the moment. I guess quite a lot of people will want to avoid a ship this year, this surely will affect TUI capacity with less rotations.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

They are extending the cancellation of cruises till July 30th.

[oldart]

Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M

They are extending the cancellation of cruises till July 30th.

Cheers. It's going to be interesting how they are going to social distance on a ship if they go back in August.

[Cloud1]

Originally Posted by manchesterflyer2

A number of 320s/321s were due to be leased in S20 in order to facilitate the summer 21 expansion and to help "bridge the gap" whilst waiting for the MAX re-entry into service, hence the A320 flight.

Are these likely to be from the same company that use to provide A320s to TCX with an LY-registration? I notice two were suppose to be in DUB and at least one in LGW.

[manchesterflyer2]

Some were to come from SmartLynx and some from Avion Express, but the distribution of these was still in the process of being finalised before the coronavirus event.

[LGS6753]

TUI agrees compensation with Boeing

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feat...ews_id=2042928

[Mr @ Spotty M]

I would say the most interesting item from the announcement is the reduction to the fleets of the five airlines.
I wonder what the size of the reduction is going to be.

[ROC10]

Interesting. It doesn’t seem to clarify whether or not more aircraft will be delivered in later years as opposed to the next two years. I haven’t previously heard of this plan to reduce their fleet sizes but there’s also a suggestion that it may be a new plan brought on by Covid. Obviously though, they have been streamlining to 737/787. I wonder if this will accelerate the disposal of other types or see them stick around longer if there will be fewer MAXs (not that it matters at the moment given it’s a mystery as to when they will ever return to service). It’s clear that they now see Covid as having a significantly more than short-term impact which isn’t hugely surprising but it’s not exactly encouraging either.

[Percula]

G-TUIN is just about to land at LHR from KIN. Must be a first?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

First for LHR or KIN?
I understand that they have been into LHR a number of times of late.

[Less Hair]

Several reports claim TUIfly is set to be shrinking this morning. Staff and fleet about to be halved, base Cologne closed, no more long range plans.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Several reports claim TUIfly is set to be shrinking this morning. Staff and fleet about to be halved, base Cologne closed, no more long range plans.

This article from tagesschau.de confirms same. Not only CGN but Bremen and Münster-Osnabrück and possibly more.

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft...krise-101.html

It would be somewhat surprising if the UK, and other group airlines may not be in line for similar drastic action, though there is nothing in the article to suggest that.

[FRatSTN]

Germany in general will be particularly hard hit I reckon. High operating costs compared to other markets whilst Lufthansa and partners are given huge government bailout.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by FRatSTN

Germany in general will be particularly hard hit I reckon. High operating costs compared to other markets whilst Lufthansa and partners are given huge government bailout.

TUI have also received German govt assistance

TUI AG: German Federal Government approves KfW bridge loan of 1.8 billion euros

[lederhosen]

This is very sad news as TUI had good working conditions and was a relatively stable firm. Yes the the formerly Air Berlin now Eurowings wet lease was always going to be a problem. But this is dramatic stuff and leaves few 737 options in Germany. It will be interesting to see if they offer part time working, which would indicate that they are not looking to permanently offshore the jobs (e.g. wet lease Eastern European operators etc) once things pick up again.

[pabely]

My source said the removal of 10 of the 13 German bases and reduction of 17 x 737s, frightening!
Large parts of the engineering side to be moved out of Germany with UK mentioned which would be Luton.